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Old 04-18-2003, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Intel's Hyper-Threading

Has anyone here gone the extra mile to get one of the newer Hyper-Threading supported chips? How do they perform?
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Old 04-18-2003, 11:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The app has to specifically support HT for you to really get the advantages. For general gaming and desktop use, you'll never see the difference.
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Sort of...

All of the apps in Windows XP Pro are HT enabled

From backup to media player, they will all take advantage of it. I have a feeling that HT will become the next MMX...

aka Intel says HEY LOOK THIS IS COOL! and no1 supports it.....
2 years later EVERYONE and there great great great uncle has it, and support for it.

As for me i just got my 3Ghz/800Mhz HT Proc, and love it
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Some of the apps in XP are capable of multithreading. However, that doesn't mean smooth sailing with HT. It's a different beast and can even degrade performance:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,793526,00.asp
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's why I'm hesitant to get one so soon. I may just stick with Athlon for another year or two...
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Old 04-19-2003, 04:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I find that is is very similar to the story with graphics cards. nVidia, ATi, and formerly 3dfx would introduce really cool features on their card but no games supported these features. I remember when the Gefore256 came out the only thing that benefited from the Harware T&L were the tech demos that came with the card. Nothing else was coded yet to take advantage of these features.

I think it is the same way with Intel and HT. THey introduce HT so that it looks like there is more than one processor. But few programs take advantage of multiple processors anyways. So it will be a while before we see an advantage in owning a HT processor for the average Joe.
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I would have to disagree with you there darkure. Most programs, games etc use it but some don't and it causes errors. I think its just a marketting gimmick more than anything else.
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would have to disagree with you there darkure. Most programs, games etc use it but some don't and it causes errors. I think its just a marketting gimmick more than anything else.

marketing gimmick? you're kidding right?

the hyper-threading technology almost ran AMD into the ground (permanently)....

there is a HUGE increase in performance between HT P4s and non-HT P4s, guys!!!!

it's anything BUT a marketing gimmick, jesus! we're talking about serious technology here
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The huge difference isn't always consistent in every HT P4 though.

I remember reading somewhere that as the clock speed goes up, the advantages of HT start to get lower and lower. I should try this out since I do have a 3.0GHz HT P4...
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Old 03-19-2004, 06:12 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I will admit that the difference in some HTs are marginal at best, but it is definitely not a "marketing gimmick"

we're talking about some serious powah here
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Old 03-19-2004, 06:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have a P4 3.4 w/ HT. Just finished building the PC last night and haven't really had a chance to use it yet. All of the schwag I read when spec'ing the system out indicated that the Hyperthreading didn't really kick in unless you were multi-tasking. I will post more as I start using the system though.
Redjake: I agree. This setup is UBER power.
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Old 03-19-2004, 06:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That sounds awesome, post us some 3dmark2003, sisoft sandra and maybe some aquamark scores and let's see what that pup's made of.
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Old 03-19-2004, 07:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I got some pretty surprising results when I ran PCMark2002

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Hyper-Threaded CPU:
CPU score: 7320
Memory score: 8193
HDD score: 1020

Non Hyper-Threaded CPU:
CPU score: 7167
Memory score: 8292
HDD score: 1053
Seems the CPU score went down a bit but the memory and the HDD score both went up some.
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Old 03-19-2004, 07:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah, I'm not sure how much PCMark utilizes Hyper-Threading technology (if at all). all I know is that everyone I've talked to say they are fast as hell. I know that games run a hell of a lot better
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah, my next chip is definitely gonna be a "C"-Core P4, because all the scores from P4 "E" chips suck, either that, or whenever Intel releases a desktop-based 64-bit chip that costs less than 800 bucks.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:16 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Considering HT technology will be nullified within 2 years as Intel moves toward their dream of a multi-core processor, they are basically testing the idea and the market it will come to bear.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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HT rules so much. I have noticed such a hugre difference in every app i run, be it games or winamp. definitely worth it.
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