sailor

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl...id=204&tid=206

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31959

Thats right folks... August 5th. And PC Gamer gave it a 94%.

*Me scampers off to buy a new computer*

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ChrisJericho

omg omg omg omg

Can't wait to play this at night with all the lights out and with surround sound !!

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Asuka{eve}

Love at first sight!!!!

ultra_agent9

I've been out of the gaming scene for a while now but I've been looking at what's hot recently and can't believe how kickass these games have become. Doom 3 looks wicked and I think it's gonna be the first game I buy this year (like I said, I've been out of the loop for a while).

Damn- does that mean I'm gonna need a souped up pc for Doom 3?

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bltzkriegmcanon

Post yer specs. We'll gladly tell ya if a "souped up pc" is gonna be necessary.

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the_marq

DOOM3?

That's a computer game right?

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bltzkriegmcanon

What you say? Yes it's a PC game. I know you've gotta be kidding.

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Peryn

Simply based on the leaked alpha from a long, long time ago, Doom 3 looks incredible. It runs superbly on a 9800Pro and Athlon64 3000+. I will definately buy this game, especially with the improvements made since the leak.

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bltzkriegmcanon

There ya go, that's the specs you need to match or at least be close to in order to make for an enjoyable experience (good framerates, decent resolution, good graphic settings). I've mentioned this in several threads but I'll say it again, an X800 or a 6800 is simply not necessary for this game. It'll make the game run hella-nice and permit for super-high resolutions and look spectacular, but it's not necessary for running it.

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ultra_agent9

Um...ok...need-more-power...

*grabs keys and wallet and heads to nearest pc store*

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duckduck

Anybody have a copy of those reviews? They've been removed.

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ForwardtoDeath

anyone know if they are planning to make doom3 for macs? The game looks awesome and I have always been a huge doom fan, so if anyone has any info about it, let me know. Thanks.

Holo

here are your playable specs:

Pentium 6 8Ghz or AMD Longhorn 85000+
8GB DDR RAM
GeForce 7 Xr4Ti or ATI 6,000,000,000 XT GT-R Pro
2 20GB Seagate Cheetah 15,000 RPM HDDs in a RAID cfg.

just kidding.


I need to RMA my GF4 so I can play this at the lowest setting at least

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jaco

From what ive seen, even the best pc's out right now will still not be able to run this with graphics maxed. i know mine will be running it on low and i just got this thing 3 months ago.

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sailor

Theyre probably still cached on my machine at work. Ill look when I get there.

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sailor

Yeah, that was one of the things the review said. There was a super-ultra-incrediblle graphics setting that even their beefiest machine couldnt run, but that it would also run fine on a 9800.

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Silverbrain

This game and HL2 are probably the reasons to finally break the bank and get a cpu higher then a 1ghz cpu. I too look forward to playing this game, reviews look awesome and Carmack has always put out quality games.

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Rdr4evr

God, it pisses me off that I have to pay 2000 dollars just to play a fucking game. God damnit, now I know why I went back to consoles.

redarrow

Thats so true! Id rather build a cheap-ass comp and play old skool games.

You could build a $300 comp (Duron 1.6 GHz, 256 MB PC2100, asus mobo w/ onboard video, [or cheap pc chips mobo w/ a gforce 2 or radeon 7000], 40GB HDD, CDROM, Cheap $20-30 case)
and then play all the Diablo II, Starcraft, and Solitare you can handle.

And the monitors and keyboards and shit? Fuck, find some 14" CRT at a garage sale for 20 bucks, along with a $2 keyboard/mouse combo. And speakers are a dime a dozen. Hell, you could use your CD players' headphones. Theres your surround sound. Then borrow your friends XP CD and reinstall it every 30 days. If you just had a few games and some IM progs, its not that bad.

bltzkriegmcanon

You don't have to spend $2000 to play a game. In fact, you could get something that'll play this current generation of games really damn well for about $800. You only have to spend that much if you go Dell.

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Rdr4evr

Your saying I could buy a $800 rig that will play DooM 3 on maxed out settings without a problem? If so, please give me a link and specs.

Even if $800, that is still to much for a game, and probably wont even play on maxed out settings anyway. Im not paying $800 for a medium graphic setting.

sailor

Im not sure it will matter anyways--arent they releasing an XBox port?

Anyways, no, they wont play it at maxed out settings--the way the game was written, no current hardware will--but it will play it just fine, and still be purty.

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Cynthetiq

xbox version will follow shortly after the PC version... I'll wait for the Xbox version.. no need to spend more money chasing after better specs

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bltzkriegmcanon

First of all, you saidUnless I'm horridly mistaken, you never said in your original post, anything about running any game, be it Doom 3, HL2, or anything else that's come out in the last 5 years, or in the next 5 years. I made the assumption that you could've been talking about any of these games, and gave you an estimate of a system that could run games, and run most (meaning the past generations, this generation and even into the next generation) games well.

Secondly, in your original post, you never mentioned anything about You only said run games. Now that you've become a little more specific about exactly what you want, then yes, I have to agree with you. There is no "rig" that can run Doom 3 on "maxed out settings" for $800. When you say "maxed out" I assume you mean the following:

• Antisitropic Filtering of no less than 8x
• Anti-Aliasing of no less than 8x
• a resolution of 1600*1200
• all in-game details set to maximum

However, you are correct in your rebuttal, there is no system that exists that can deliver the performance you're looking for at a price point of $800. Howerver, I, and many other experienced computer builders here on TFP do know of systems that can run a game like Doom 3 or HL2 or any other current/next generation games at a good resolution, with medium-high settings across the boards for around $800. It might bleed over that amount, but then, you weren't being specific in your earlier post, so why should I be any more specific than I was?

Judging from the content of your post, connotatively speaking, it is my belief that you think a "medium graphic setting" on a game like Doom 3 is a terrible thing. It's not. Far Cry, or Battlefield 1942, or UT2K4 or any other game that's come out recently or will come out in the future, having the game run on "medium graphic setting" won't result in a terribly noticeable difference in graphics quality. I think most people won't notice the difference in a game that's filtered billinearly, trilinearly, or even antisitropically, or see the difference in anti-aliasing, especially if that difference makes the difference between running a game at 15 FPS and 30+ FPS. I think most people wouldn't notice, much less complain about a difference in quality between graphical settings, especially due to increased frame rate. I think that the only way one can even tell the difference in image quality in most cases is to have a side-by-side comparison specifically detailing how a game looks at varying graphical settings. The minute differences of how a game looks at varying graphics settings are lost on about 90% of the people who might look at them, and those who are in that niche of 10%, who are in "the know" of what it takes to run games well, are more than willing to sacrifice that tiny bit of filtering, or anti-aliasing, and can live with a small bit of jagginess, if it means that the game they're playing will run at a good frame rate. When I suggest a price point of $800 for a computer that can "run" Doom 3, I mean specifically, you can play Doom 3 at a good resolution (1024*768 and higher) with most settings at medium or high, but not "maxed out", and run it at a solid framerate of 30-60 FPS.

See, you say that $800 is too much to pay for a single game, but I know that most people are gonna do much, much more than dedicate their system to just ONE game. There's most likely going to be productivity software, an operating system, some multi-media software, and files that use all of that software. This isn't to mention that a "rig" can be used for more than just one game, because whatever can play Doom 3 will be able to play all the mods and other games based on Doom 3's engine. Same goes for Half Life 2.

And, to relate to your point about "why I went back to consoles", guess what? All the games that cause you to spend $2000 to play just one game, and "$800 for a medium graphic setting" is too much to pay, well, look what you're putting into a gaming console. If you got it at launch, you probably paid $400 for it, since I'm running on the assumption you're talking about Doom 3, the only console that will be host to Doom 3 is Xbox, then I know it was $400 at launch. So that's $400. Next, you'd probably have bought at least 4 brand-new games for it, including Doom 3, so that's $200 more, totalling up to $600. Might as well add another controller, and Xbox Live! for $20 a month. So, if youve been subscribing to Xbox Live! since it's inception in about 2002, you'd have spent about $650 on that. Wow, amazing, you've already spent $1250 to get not even the most out of your Xbox. Here's the point of all these calculations: when Doom 3 hits the Xbox, it's most likely gonna look precisely like Doom 3 would on PC, but here's the thing, it's probably not gonna run at 60 FPS, and most likely, it's gonna drop framerate to 15 or less. A lot. Some value, huh? All that money spent on a console that's gonna run a game at lower frame rates and not look as good as it does on PC.

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SecretMethod70

Aside for the fact I don't like XBox in the first place, I wouldn't even dream of playing this on XBox. It's sort of funny that someone complaining about having to pay $2000 to play Doom3 on a PC with max settings will play it on XBox where the graphics will be significantly worse than "max settings" on the PC anyway.

Anyway, this is great news and I can't wait.

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Cynthetiq

I got 2 hours to play... I don't want to waste 1.5 hours upgrading my box... cuts into the play time...

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redarrow

Whoa.. blitzkriegmcanon, you just beat us all.

But no one can defeat my $300 dollar comp and old skool games strategy.

Cynthetiq

blitzkriegmcanon

I'm a cheap bastard for tech and games...so my costs are not as high as you are estimating.

I buy used games... because I usually don't have time to buy them when they first come out so... they sit and collect dust and eventually get into the bargain bin before I have even broken open the wrapper.

I don't Xbox Live... no interest in it whatsoever because of the time commitments.

I also didn't get my Xbox until it was $149. I lusted after it at the beginning but again, didn't have the time to devote to it...

having grown up as a gamer and spending most of my allowance and income on videogames as a kid, and then growing up and developing games for a stint in my career..... I find it saddening that it's not as much a part of my life anymore. But hey.... I have a good career and I have a loving wife

bltzkriegmcanon

I was just driving the point home that console gaming isn't always as cheap as some assume it to be, and that PC gaming isn't as expensive as some believe it to be.

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Rdr4evr

I figured you would think Im talking about DooM 3 considering the thread and the fact that it has the most horsepower of any game. But I should have been more clear, sorry.

I see a major difference between Medium and High settings, you do not need to put them side to side, especiallly for a game like D3. I dont think you need to be in "the know" to notice a graphical difference in the settings.

As for using the system for other software as well is games, this is correct. I use Photoshop, Illustrator, and After Effects. My system is fine for this software and does not need upgrading, but these games that are constantly setting the bar higher and higher require a more powerful machine.

Your assumption is incorrect. I bought a Gamecube at launch for $199, 1 game for $49.99 and the rest of my games and memory cards were free, so that totals to $250.

Either way Im sure the next gen systems will out do the PC or atleast match it, so hopefully this will not be a concern.

EDIT: I believe the Xbox was $299 at launch.

hiredgun

http://pc.ign.com/articles/451/451199p1.html

"Right now the team is still working out the system requirements for the game. Todd [Hollenshead] was good enough to offer an idea of where he thinks the overall recommended requirements will lie. He imagines that the game will run well on a 1GHz machine with 256MB of RAM and a GeForce 2 or equivalent card. "


Then again, that article is from a year ago, so *shrug*.