Dreamweaver!

[ToolBag]

First off, I fucking love DreamweaverMX, I love Macromedia, it was possible I would have quite the intimate night with the Macromedia Studio..........anyways, I was wondering who uses it here and possibly what web sites you know of for good tutorials. Any help would be great, Im trying to teach myself and have gone through the tutorials now.

[Church]

Originally posted by ToolBag
First off, I fucking love DreamweaverMX, I love Macromedia, it was possible I would have quite the intimate night with the Macromedia Studio..........anyways, I was wondering who uses it here and possibly what web sites you know of for good tutorials. Any help would be great, Im trying to teach myself and have gone through the tutorials now.

I don't know any tutorials, but I could give you a hand sometime if you want. Just contact me.

[ToolBag]

well among many things, the one problem I hoped to solve was a size issue. I made the homepage in Fireworks, then exported it on over to Dreamweaver. Everything still looks fine until I upload it, it does not auto size to the users resolution settings, there is all this white space around it on my computer, and if someone has a really low resolution, they have bars at the side and bottom to slide over in order to see the whole page. If you can help me, that would be great. If not, thats fine too! ROCK!

[JohnnyRoyale]

I know there's a bunch of tutorials for Photoshop, and maybe some for Flash at http://guistuff.com

[runningwild]

Try these

http://www.dmxzone.com/
http://www.basic-ultradev.com

[Jesus Pimp]

Personally I would learn how to code by hand.

[sailor]

Originally posted by Jesus Pimp
Personally I would learn how to code by hand.

Yeah, the best way to clean, compliant code is to write it by hand.

But hey, Dreamweaver is better than frontpage *shudder*

[arch13]

Originally posted by sailor
Yeah, the best way to clean, compliant code is to write it by hand.

But hey, Dreamweaver is better than frontpage *shudder*

Dreamweaver MX is fully xml and xhtml compliant, as well as producing correct formate css and layers. It even converts tables to layers to help rid the web of them faster. It uses the stong and em tags instead of the B and I tags, which is helping with faster transition.
It's highly useful in a graphic design environment and holds strong charcteristics that have contributed to it's popularity. it probably the only mass use html code programs that currently meets standards.
I know where you guys are coming from, but theres a slight air of the old *nix attitude of "It's not good unless coded by hand or run from a command line". I hope that such attitudes are disappearing.

[Mephisto2]

Originally posted by Jesus Pimp
Personally I would learn how to code by hand.

Yeah, I'm quite sure you could code a graphics rich, visually pleasing web page entirely in notebook...



Mr Mephisto

[digby]

Graphics? There are graphics on the web? I've never got lynx to show any graphics...

[ToolBag]

Ok, well I am a first time web deisigner and wanted to make a good page looking page, pop ups and cool graphical features, I also wanted to do this in a short time. I checked out the code that Dreamweaver produced in HTML. That would have taken me months to learn, even longer to write......ok, maybe not that long to write but still a long damn time. I used Frontpage and then shit on it. I just recieved the Macromedia Studio and love everything about it!

[sailor]

Originally posted by arch13
Dreamweaver MX is fully xml and xhtml compliant, as well as producing correct formate css and layers. It even converts tables to layers to help rid the web of them faster. It uses the stong and em tags instead of the B and I tags, which is helping with faster transition.
It's highly useful in a graphic design environment and holds strong charcteristics that have contributed to it's popularity. it probably the only mass use html code programs that currently meets standards.
I know where you guys are coming from, but theres a slight air of the old *nix attitude of "It's not good unless coded by hand or run from a command line". I hope that such attitudes are disappearing.

I did not know that. To be honest, I havent used anything other than a text editor in 5 years. It certainly is good to hear that though--its about time the people making those editors figured that out.

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
Yeah, I'm quite sure you could code a graphics rich, visually pleasing web page entirely in notebook...



Mr Mephisto

Sure you can. Image tags and CSS. Works pretty well, Ive been doing it for quite a while

Originally posted by digby
Graphics? There are graphics on the web? I've never got lynx to show any graphics...

Yeah, I have that problem too

Originally posted by ToolBag
Ok, well I am a first time web deisigner and wanted to make a good page looking page, pop ups and cool graphical features, I also wanted to do this in a short time. I checked out the code that Dreamweaver produced in HTML. That would have taken me months to learn, even longer to write......ok, maybe not that long to write but still a long damn time. I used Frontpage and then shit on it. I just recieved the Macromedia Studio and love everything about it!

Like I said, anything but Frontpage. It is good that you looked at the code. Get in the habit of doing that so you know what is going on behind the scenes--it will make you better at making webpages. The code isnt as hard as it looks either

[jazzmanzem]

I think the best thing for you to do is...

Go into Dreamweaver, do Insert > Table . Create a table that is 4 rows and 4 columns (just a placed to start) maybe 700 pixes wide with 0 cellpadding, 0 spacing, and 0 border.

Now, figure out how to lay out your Fireworks page inside that table. You will have to add rows and columns as you go, or merge them to get the layout right. You may have to split your graphics into two or more pieces and put them into neighboring cells. BUT, if you can figure this out, you will be able to create a layout that will work much better than the one Fireworks will create.

As for the fancy stuff...pop-ups, rollovers, etc., they are easy enough to do, but beginners rely too much on them and the design suffers. Besides that, I would suggest staying away from pop-ups all together...a lot of users will have them blocked anyway. Learn the basics of layout and design using Dreamweaver... you will come to understand the code that is involved and will be able to code by hand when you need to.

Oh, and by the way, when you get comfortable with tables, start learning CSS, so you won't have to rely on tables and spacers.

[Vanquish]

I never understood the push for coding by hand. Yes its a great learning tool, its always better to know why things are happening behind the scenes when a problem occurs or something. But after you know how to do things by hand, a tool that can cut time is always appriciated. Even tho most good developers know that coding is only like 1/3rd the time compared to all the paper design that usually takes place.

Myself, I never used Dreamweaver since I was in Grade 10 for some stupid Technology project. Anyway, ever since then I have always done things by hand, but thats mainly because my pages have been very simple layouts for friends and such.

Anyway I agree that the new Studio is amazing, they work so well together, its great.

[Jesus Pimp]

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
Yeah, I'm quite sure you could code a graphics rich, visually pleasing web page entirely in notebook...



Mr Mephisto

It's not hard. Right now though I use Editplus

[docbungle]

Sounds as if your problem with the page not resising to different browser resolutions could just be the "autostretch" button not being clicked.

[Vanquish]

I just thought I would mention a very nice little program I found a while back for editing things. Its called SCITE, its a free Text based editor that has no frills other then colorization and it allows you to minimize a portion of your code. Its also nice because it has a bunch of presets for different languages such as XML, CSS, SQL & C++. Its a great alternative to notepad (I love this prog) and its free, so its worth checking out for anyone who doesn't like dreamweaver.




http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/SciTEDownload.html

[Prince]

I love Dreamweaver, mostly because it keeps note of the filenames, locations etc, minimizing the chance of 404's once published. A lot of people seem to think that using Dreamweaver excludes the need to hand-code. It isn't so... I find myself having to manually edit the code all the time, and make nothing of it. It's A and B working together, and I like what I C.

[Devilinmypants]

Originally posted by arch13
Dreamweaver MX is fully xml and xhtml compliant, as well as producing correct formate css and layers. It even converts tables to layers to help rid the web of them faster. It uses the stong and em tags instead of the B and I tags, which is helping with faster transition.
It's highly useful in a graphic design environment and holds strong charcteristics that have contributed to it's popularity. it probably the only mass use html code programs that currently meets standards.
I know where you guys are coming from, but theres a slight air of the old *nix attitude of "It's not good unless coded by hand or run from a command line". I hope that such attitudes are disappearing.

I am with you there one hundred percent. Deamweaver MX is great, though I prefer dreamweaver 4 because I like the Gui better. Handcoding is simply not practical, especially if you are working in volume or with time constraints. If Html is an artform to you, hand coding is like using needle to stiple hundreds of points of paint onto canvas when you could easily get the same effect with an airbrush. (I do miss the command line promt days enough to begin work on a Dos/Windows 3.1 machine, or partition if it is possible, just for the sake of playing some kickass abandonware.)

[Devilinmypants]

I dont entirely understand Dreamweaver yet and i do still end up pasting from notepad every now and then.