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Old 02-13-2004, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Need information on res net administration

My currently residenc have a weekly download limit of 758 MB. I downloaded 9.5G and got my connection severed for two days and a warning voilating the res net policy for the first time.

So my question is, how do the administrator keep track of my download traffic. Does he use my MAC address address or IP address. And if I were to change my MAC address, will he still be able to find out who I am?
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Old 02-13-2004, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1. They can use the port or the port numbering scheme.

2. You can't change your MAC address, its hard coded into your network card. You could change network cards, but then the port would stay the same

3. You cant trick the admins

4. your best choice is to run a really long cable to someone else's room and download from them, but then again the network might have Netbios recording, authentication, or a hundred other ways of tracking usage
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Old 02-13-2004, 12:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you can spoof the MAC address easily with a router, but then ther'es still that pesky IP address. Admins know what their challenges are pretty well. The only way to get around it is trolling for somebody's wireless router -- but that's a lot of work that can work only for a short time
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Old 02-13-2004, 01:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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They probably do it based on port on the switch in your residence. I know that Cisco and Extreme switches will both allow tracking per port. Probably some SNMP or other scripty program goes in and if you'r above a certian number of bytes, they cut off the port.

Better idea? Wireless. If someone's got it, and using it without WEP, you can tap into their net & get bandwidth. Use with GetRight for stop/start downloads. Of course, this is probably against the rules of your residence, so be forewarned.
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Old 02-13-2004, 02:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I worked for an ISP that provided Res. net for a college, and you'd be surprised what they can do for bandwidth.. Within fifteen seconds of looking I could tell you which users were using what bandwidth, what they were using the bandwidth for (Kazzaa, IE, newsgroup), and what room they were in..

If you're desperate, I agree with the wireless idea, but then you're just ruining someone else's life in the dorm
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Old 02-14-2004, 12:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Man that s complicated, I really dont want to buy a wireless card just to tap into someone elses resource.

btw, losthellihound, what do people do for bandwidth?
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If they're that strict about capping your bandwidth, here's your solution:

Call up your TV and phone companies and see if you can get Cable or DSL in your dorms - you can't fool the network admins for long. They have a very wide array of tools at their disposal, and years of experience from students who have also tried to trick them out of bandwidth.

And just as an afterthought, in a WEEK you can only download 758MB? Jesus - this week alone I downloaded America's Army (650MB), SuSE Linux 9.0 (7.22GB), and constantly listen to internet radio (and that's gotta add up to a lot, when I've got the stream running 24x7)
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If they're that strict about capping your bandwidth, here's your solution:

Call up your TV and phone companies and see if you can get Cable or DSL in your dorms - you can't fool the network admins for long. They have a very wide array of tools at their disposal, and years of experience from students who have also tried to trick them out of bandwidth.

And just as an afterthought, in a WEEK you can only download 758MB? Jesus - this week alone I downloaded America's Army (650MB), SuSE Linux 9.0 (7.22GB), and constantly listen to internet radio (and that's gotta add up to a lot, when I've got the stream running 24x7)
Yeah, Im the same way. All of the stuff I have downloaded in the past week has been legal, but in total it has added up to more than 15GB of stuff. I would be so screwed if they capped it at less than a gig.

Any ideas on why they do it? What school is this? Thats pretty ridiculous...
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, Im the same way. All of the stuff I have downloaded in the past week has been legal, but in total it has added up to more than 15GB of stuff. I would be so screwed if they capped it at less than a gig.

Any ideas on why they do it? What school is this? Thats pretty ridiculous...
University of Toronto. God I hate my school.
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Old 02-15-2004, 11:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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At Purdue, students in dorms are limited to 2GB/week. However, this only applies to internet-bound traffic; traffic over Internet2 or on campus (there's lots of open-source ISOs and stuff on campus) is free.
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Old 02-15-2004, 09:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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On my campus, your internet gets shut off if you upload too much in a given amount of time. We can get it back by changing from auto assigned IP to user defined and changing the last byte untill it works. For example, changing xxx.xxx.xxx.41 to xxx.xxx.xxx.23. I doubt it will work for you; I was surprised that it worked for me.
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Old 02-15-2004, 11:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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if you think they do use the mac address... (they prolly dont) you can try smac... it lets you spoof your mac address...

http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/
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Old 02-16-2004, 07:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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if you think they do use the mac address... (they prolly dont) you can try smac... it lets you spoof your mac address...

http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/
Already got it. Worked like a charm. But somehow the adminstrator disconnect me again even though i am using the new mac and did not exceed the download limit.
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