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Vanquish · 02-13-2004, 10:13 PM

Cheese - when overclocking your pushing the FSB anyway, if they're OCing a barton 2400M people usually pump their FSB to 200mhz (400mhz equivilent) and set their multiplier to 12.0 -12.5 then step up their FSB in increments of 1-3, testing for hours on end each time to find the absolute max OC. So in short, the CPU can handle the 400mhz FSB like 99% of the time, so there is no difference at all.

The most important factor in raising your FSB is actually not your proc at all, with this processor, your RAM is a far more limiting factor then the internal processor. If it was me I would be buying some Corsair XMS 3500 and pumping the FSB to 200-225 and have the multiplyer at 12.0 and if it could handle it 12.5. Either or would give you a processor that would beat a 3200+ so its all good.

Lasereth · 02-14-2004, 09:49 PM

Yeah, the reviews on NewEgg say that they've been able to get the damned 266 MHz FSB Barton 2500+ Mobile to 400 MHz FSB. That means increasing the system bus from 133 MHz to 200 MHz! Jesus H. That's a HELL of an increase. I wonder what temperature that'd be running at? Vanquish is right, though -- it's the RAM that determines how much you can OC. I might buy one of these if I get my tax returns soon enough.

-Lasereth

yakimushi · 02-19-2004, 07:36 PM

Well, got the motherboard and I've started the overclocking.

Right now I've got an XP2100+ (1.74GHz) running at XP3000+ (2.2GHz).

I'm using OCZ PC3200 Basic Series RAM with 2.5 - 4 - 4 - 9 timing.

I've had to bump the voltage on the chipset, RAM, and processor one notch.

So far Prime95 has been running fine along with SETI@Home and Motherboard monitor. Also typing this post right now.

Temps are about 120F fully stressed for the CPU, about 85F in the case. Temps are taken with the socket and on board thermistors. I've got another thermistor stuck into the heatsink thats getting slightly lower temps so I figure they're pretty accurate. Oh yeah, I'm using an Alpha PAL8045 heatsink with 5000rpm 80mm Sunon fan.

cheesemoney · 02-20-2004, 01:02 AM

Your Barton 2400+mobile or 2500+ mobile @ 400fsb should be running much cooler than your desktop 2500+ at 400fsb. And it is rated to take more heat, if I understand correctly.

I just picked up another 2400+ cause the 2500+'s were sold out. 80 bucks shipped when I got it from newegg. I'll let ya know how fast I get it when my GeForce 4 Ti4200 comes in the mail tomorrow.

Vanquish · 02-20-2004, 08:17 PM

Gluck with that, I am consideing picking up a 2400M/2500M shortly, my 2100+ is at 2.4ghz and is a good competition for a 3200+ but at $140 cdn for a proc that would do the same as a $350 one, I cant really go wrong, now I just have to find out if I will still have the budget to get the Nikon D70 when it comes out at the end of march, if I do, then 2500M here I come

cheesemoney · 02-23-2004, 07:19 PM

Damnit.... so far, I'm "only" able to hit 2.4 ghz with my mobile 2400+ and my abit nf7-s.

I have vcore at 1.8 right now, as I've upped the multiplier to 12.
FSB is at 200.
It will load windows at 203 but then fuck up, won't even post at 204.

Its funny, but upping ram voltage seemed to do nothing, nor did upping chipset voltage.

This chip ran at "stock" <1.5 vcore at 11*200 fsb, btw, w/ no voltage mods whatsoever.

I'm very happy with the processor. I was hoping for a little more outta my ram, but I had to cut a few costs, and ram ended up being second tier instead of first. Its not crappy--Geil Golden Dragon 3200, rated at 2.5, and I'm pretty sure it was doing 2-2-2-6 at 3200+ speed, but I could be mistaken.

Freakin' 204 fsb kills it though. DAMNIT!

I've heard that these things sometimes take time, so I'm gonna keep runnin' prime 95 like i've been--right now it kept finding errors after 10 mins or so in prime, which is why I've upped the voltage on the vcore to 1.8. I'm afraid to go too much over that, but thankfully the cpu full load has never taken me over 40 degrees.

Thank you thermalright. Unfortunately, that wonderful vantec tornado fan sounds like a freakin' hurricane instead.

I can hear it downstairs w/ my door closed.

Any advice on v-core/chipset/vdimm settings much appreciated. To increase my fsb.

Also, what do I do now if I can't increase fsb anymore.

I'm at 200fsb/12 multiplier (2.4ghz). What do I try for 200/12.5?

For the record, I havn't flashed the bios in my nf7-s rev 2.0. I'm afraid of it, and don't know if I really need to or not.

Lasereth · 02-23-2004, 07:27 PM

You can try upping the RAM timings for increased FSB performance. It may decrease overall gaming and benchmark performance, though. I've heard that setting it at 3-3-3-7 will allow greater FSB increases, but I've never tried it.

It's probably just your RAM. That's nice RAM, but I've heard good and bad things about Geil (most good). When a small FSB increase locks the PC, it's usually because of the RAM.

I'm sure your temps are decent with the Tornado in. I've heard it compared to a 747 landing in your room.

I'd be happy with 2.4 GHz, man! Damn! My 2500+ XP (unlocked) this past summer wouldn't go past 178 FSB because of my RAM. 200 is damn nice. I've personally never heard of anyone going past 205 FSB with the 2500+ unless they had water cooling.

Your southbridge or northbridge chipsets could be getting too hot. That tends to cause lots of problems and is usually hard to realize without extra thermometers.

I'd simply stick with 2.4 GHz and be happy.

-Lasereth

cheesemoney · 02-23-2004, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the reply. I know *some* about the timings, and right now I'm not concerned with them as much as eeking out a little more fsb. Of course, when I get it all settled, I will certainly work on the timings and I *know* that good timings beat fast fsb/sloppy timings.

I'm just trying to take things one thing at a time. Right now I'm praying that this sucker keeps stable at 2.4ghz on air. Talk about cool, it won't crack 40 degrees on full load stilll. Damn, thermalright seriously rules.

I was gonna get a fan controller, but since it seems to work so well I might just switch the tornado out w/ a fan that doesn't hurt your eardrums (its causing me to go deaf, I swear).

On another note, the abit onboard sound is awesome.

Any other comments much appreciated.
Thanks!
-Cheese

Lasereth · 02-23-2004, 08:02 PM

I wouldn't switch out the fan.

That Tornado is loud, but it's also known as the best CPU fan on the market. Putting another in may raise your temps more than you'd like.

-Lasereth

Vanquish · 02-23-2004, 08:21 PM

If I were you I would get a fan controller that allows you to switch the Tornado from 12v to 5v, that way you can keep the tornado and up the fan speed when needed, but also have the thing quiet when you dont need it. Myself, I have 2 tornados in my case, and there on full all the time. Its downstairs so I dont have to worry about the noise, and when I DO want to play a game, I wear headphones, so that solves the noise problem

now, onto your FSB. If your running your ram in Dual Channel, take it out and put it single channel, that will help you get your fsb to its max. But if I was you, I would leave the thing at 12x200. Thats amazing for a barton, and well, you have the equivilent of like a 3800+ now, so who really cares LOL. You can try and go for the 12.5x and if she works, thats awsome. I cant seem to get my 2100+ to get to 12.5x, perhaps there is an issue with the NF7-S? If you happen to get it to run stable at 12.5x, let me know what your settings are at. Cuz I know the proc I am currently using can push 2.6ghz (it did on my cuz's epox 8rda+) so a setting of 12.5x200 should be fine for it.

Nice to hear that the M is going good for you tho.

Lasereth · 02-23-2004, 09:06 PM

Vanquish, I got my 2500+ at 178*12.5 with no problems this past summer, so the NF7-S certainly doesn't have a problem with the 12.5 multiplier.

I can also say that Vanquish is right about the single vs dual channel RAM idea -- I had two sticks in my PC before I RMA'ed it and I can say that it's probably what caused my FSB limitations. I had one nice Crucial stick and one really shitty generic stick.

-Lasereth

Vanquish · 02-24-2004, 08:15 AM

K thanks, Lasereth, I might try and down my FSB and up my Multiplyer to see if I get some changes.....just to see the max that my Proc can go to on my system.

02-14-2004, 09:49 PM	#42 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Yeah, the reviews on NewEgg say that they've been able to get the damned 266 MHz FSB Barton 2500+ Mobile to 400 MHz FSB. That means increasing the system bus from 133 MHz to 200 MHz! Jesus H. That's a HELL of an increase. I wonder what temperature that'd be running at? Vanquish is right, though -- it's the RAM that determines how much you can OC. I might buy one of these if I get my tax returns soon enough. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

02-23-2004, 07:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	You can try upping the RAM timings for increased FSB performance. It may decrease overall gaming and benchmark performance, though. I've heard that setting it at 3-3-3-7 will allow greater FSB increases, but I've never tried it. It's probably just your RAM. That's nice RAM, but I've heard good and bad things about Geil (most good). When a small FSB increase locks the PC, it's usually because of the RAM. I'm sure your temps are decent with the Tornado in. I've heard it compared to a 747 landing in your room. I'd be happy with 2.4 GHz, man! Damn! My 2500+ XP (unlocked) this past summer wouldn't go past 178 FSB because of my RAM. 200 is damn nice. I've personally never heard of anyone going past 205 FSB with the 2500+ unless they had water cooling. Your southbridge or northbridge chipsets could be getting too hot. That tends to cause lots of problems and is usually hard to realize without extra thermometers. I'd simply stick with 2.4 GHz and be happy. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

02-23-2004, 08:02 PM	#49 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I wouldn't switch out the fan. That Tornado is loud, but it's also known as the best CPU fan on the market. Putting another in may raise your temps more than you'd like. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

02-23-2004, 09:06 PM	#51 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Vanquish, I got my 2500+ at 178*12.5 with no problems this past summer, so the NF7-S certainly doesn't have a problem with the 12.5 multiplier. I can also say that Vanquish is right about the single vs dual channel RAM idea -- I had two sticks in my PC before I RMA'ed it and I can say that it's probably what caused my FSB limitations. I had one nice Crucial stick and one really shitty generic stick. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

02-13-2004, 10:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
Vanquish Insane Location: Truro, Nova Scotia	Cheese - when overclocking your pushing the FSB anyway, if they're OCing a barton 2400M people usually pump their FSB to 200mhz (400mhz equivilent) and set their multiplier to 12.0 -12.5 then step up their FSB in increments of 1-3, testing for hours on end each time to find the absolute max OC. So in short, the CPU can handle the 400mhz FSB like 99% of the time, so there is no difference at all. The most important factor in raising your FSB is actually not your proc at all, with this processor, your RAM is a far more limiting factor then the internal processor. If it was me I would be buying some Corsair XMS 3500 and pumping the FSB to 200-225 and have the multiplyer at 12.0 and if it could handle it 12.5. Either or would give you a processor that would beat a 3200+ so its all good.

02-19-2004, 07:36 PM	#43 (permalink)
yakimushi Addict	Well, got the motherboard and I've started the overclocking. Right now I've got an XP2100+ (1.74GHz) running at XP3000+ (2.2GHz). I'm using OCZ PC3200 Basic Series RAM with 2.5 - 4 - 4 - 9 timing. I've had to bump the voltage on the chipset, RAM, and processor one notch. So far Prime95 has been running fine along with SETI@Home and Motherboard monitor. Also typing this post right now. Temps are about 120F fully stressed for the CPU, about 85F in the case. Temps are taken with the socket and on board thermistors. I've got another thermistor stuck into the heatsink thats getting slightly lower temps so I figure they're pretty accurate. Oh yeah, I'm using an Alpha PAL8045 heatsink with 5000rpm 80mm Sunon fan.

02-20-2004, 01:02 AM	#44 (permalink)
cheesemoney Loser Location: Paradise	Your Barton 2400+mobile or 2500+ mobile @ 400fsb should be running much cooler than your desktop 2500+ at 400fsb. And it is rated to take more heat, if I understand correctly. I just picked up another 2400+ cause the 2500+'s were sold out. 80 bucks shipped when I got it from newegg. I'll let ya know how fast I get it when my GeForce 4 Ti4200 comes in the mail tomorrow.

02-20-2004, 08:17 PM	#45 (permalink)
Vanquish Insane Location: Truro, Nova Scotia	Gluck with that, I am consideing picking up a 2400M/2500M shortly, my 2100+ is at 2.4ghz and is a good competition for a 3200+ but at $140 cdn for a proc that would do the same as a $350 one, I cant really go wrong, now I just have to find out if I will still have the budget to get the Nikon D70 when it comes out at the end of march, if I do, then 2500M here I come

02-23-2004, 07:19 PM	#46 (permalink)
cheesemoney Loser Location: Paradise	Damnit.... so far, I'm "only" able to hit 2.4 ghz with my mobile 2400+ and my abit nf7-s. I have vcore at 1.8 right now, as I've upped the multiplier to 12. FSB is at 200. It will load windows at 203 but then fuck up, won't even post at 204. Its funny, but upping ram voltage seemed to do nothing, nor did upping chipset voltage. This chip ran at "stock" <1.5 vcore at 11*200 fsb, btw, w/ no voltage mods whatsoever. I'm very happy with the processor. I was hoping for a little more outta my ram, but I had to cut a few costs, and ram ended up being second tier instead of first. Its not crappy--Geil Golden Dragon 3200, rated at 2.5, and I'm pretty sure it was doing 2-2-2-6 at 3200+ speed, but I could be mistaken. Freakin' 204 fsb kills it though. DAMNIT! I've heard that these things sometimes take time, so I'm gonna keep runnin' prime 95 like i've been--right now it kept finding errors after 10 mins or so in prime, which is why I've upped the voltage on the vcore to 1.8. I'm afraid to go too much over that, but thankfully the cpu full load has never taken me over 40 degrees. Thank you thermalright. Unfortunately, that wonderful vantec tornado fan sounds like a freakin' hurricane instead. I can hear it downstairs w/ my door closed. Any advice on v-core/chipset/vdimm settings much appreciated. To increase my fsb. Also, what do I do now if I can't increase fsb anymore. I'm at 200fsb/12 multiplier (2.4ghz). What do I try for 200/12.5? For the record, I havn't flashed the bios in my nf7-s rev 2.0. I'm afraid of it, and don't know if I really need to or not.

02-23-2004, 07:58 PM	#48 (permalink)
cheesemoney Loser Location: Paradise	Thanks for the reply. I know some about the timings, and right now I'm not concerned with them as much as eeking out a little more fsb. Of course, when I get it all settled, I will certainly work on the timings and I know that good timings beat fast fsb/sloppy timings. I'm just trying to take things one thing at a time. Right now I'm praying that this sucker keeps stable at 2.4ghz on air. Talk about cool, it won't crack 40 degrees on full load stilll. Damn, thermalright seriously rules. I was gonna get a fan controller, but since it seems to work so well I might just switch the tornado out w/ a fan that doesn't hurt your eardrums (its causing me to go deaf, I swear). On another note, the abit onboard sound is awesome. Any other comments much appreciated. Thanks! -Cheese

02-23-2004, 08:21 PM	#50 (permalink)
Vanquish Insane Location: Truro, Nova Scotia	If I were you I would get a fan controller that allows you to switch the Tornado from 12v to 5v, that way you can keep the tornado and up the fan speed when needed, but also have the thing quiet when you dont need it. Myself, I have 2 tornados in my case, and there on full all the time. Its downstairs so I dont have to worry about the noise, and when I DO want to play a game, I wear headphones, so that solves the noise problem now, onto your FSB. If your running your ram in Dual Channel, take it out and put it single channel, that will help you get your fsb to its max. But if I was you, I would leave the thing at 12x200. Thats amazing for a barton, and well, you have the equivilent of like a 3800+ now, so who really cares LOL. You can try and go for the 12.5x and if she works, thats awsome. I cant seem to get my 2100+ to get to 12.5x, perhaps there is an issue with the NF7-S? If you happen to get it to run stable at 12.5x, let me know what your settings are at. Cuz I know the proc I am currently using can push 2.6ghz (it did on my cuz's epox 8rda+) so a setting of 12.5x200 should be fine for it. Nice to hear that the M is going good for you tho.

02-24-2004, 08:15 AM	#52 (permalink)
Vanquish Insane Location: Truro, Nova Scotia	K thanks, Lasereth, I might try and down my FSB and up my Multiplyer to see if I get some changes.....just to see the max that my Proc can go to on my system.