One comp. is hot- one is cold????? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

parafoil · 05-02-2003, 03:06 AM

I built two computers in the last two months. One computer runs very hot and one is cool.
First the hot.
AMD XP 1700
( YES I put on a thin coat of arctic silver paste that came with heat sink
http://www.motherboards.org/articles...des/924_4.html )
THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 11 HEATSINK
ASUS A7N8X DELUXE
AGP PNY GEFORCE 2 VIDEO CARD
NO PCI CARDS
ONE MAXTOR 80 GIG. ATA 133
ONE CD BURNER
ONE CORSAIR 512 2700 MEMORY
ANTEC 300WAT POWER SUPPLY
When I put my hand behind this computer the air blowing out the back is hot like a hair dryer. It warms my 22’ by 14’ living room.
………..
The cool computer.
AMD XP 2200
STOCK AMD HEATSINK with tape on it
ECS K7VMM+ BOARD
ONBOARD VIDEO
NO PCI CARDS
ONE MAXTOR 15 GIG. ATA100
ONE CD-ROM DRIVE
TWO 256 PC-133 MEMORY
ANTEC 350WATT POWER SUPPLY
When I put my hand behind this computer I almost soiled myself. The air blowing out the back is cool. I mean the same temp. as if the fan was not even connected to a computer.
………….
WELL THERE IT IS. Both run XP pro. Both cases are almost identical and have one 80mm fan blowing in the bottom front and one 80mm fan blowing out the top back. ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHY ONE RUNS COOL AND ONE RUNS HOT?

Loki · 05-02-2003, 04:52 AM

hm.

the 2200 is probably a tbred b core, which means it naturally runs a LOT cooler then your 1700.

i.e. my old athlon 1800 used to hover around 55 deg C (from what i remember). the new athlon 1800 i have (with a tbred core) hovers at around 30-35 deg C.

[ edit ]: i should also add that the new 1800 i have runs at that temp OC'ed to speeds equivalent of a 2100 or a 2200, i forget.

both values are with stock cooling, one case fan on, and with the same case.

o14real · 05-02-2003, 06:36 AM

Do they have the same power supply? diffrent power supplys give off diffrent amounts of heat. Also are the mother boards the same chip set? It also could be your GeForce 2, I have a GeForce 2 MX and it runs cool, but I also have a GeForce 256 and it runs hot. What temps do the 2 CPU's run at? I have a AMD 1700XP and have it over clocker to 1602 Mhz and have a Volcano 7 on it and it run around 115F.

Peetster · 05-02-2003, 06:57 AM

I agree with 014real. I'd look at the power supply first.

Dilbert1234567 · 05-02-2003, 12:05 PM

use a monitoring program (like mother board monitor) to check the CPU temp, that shoudl show if its geting to hot. also had drives can put off a lot of heat

Ratman · 05-02-2003, 04:15 PM

The CD that comes with the Asus MB contains a system monitoring program called Asus Probe. It shows everything on your system from voltages to fan speed and temps. I have the same board with a 2500 Barton, I run at about 40C, with the fans spinning around 2100- 2400 RPMS.

reverendjay · 05-11-2003, 11:56 PM

Well, one of them is running a hot processor, a hot Hard disk, and hot memory. The other one is running a relatively cool processor, cool hard disk, and cool memory.

I suggest adding an intake fan to blow over your disk, and at least one more exhaust fan. Also, check to make sure that there's proper airflow through the system.

A final note, Arctic silver blew up my last processor because I didn't know how to apply it properly. You want an extremely thin layer on the chip, because the thermal qualities of Arctic silver is kind of like wool in the summer. The thinner it is the less you sweat.

Good luck, and remember to help your systems breathe.

Huang_Gai · 05-13-2003, 05:34 AM

I remember buying my 2200 because it had a new architecture that kept it cooler, .13 micron I think.

Konichiwaneko · 05-13-2003, 11:11 PM

Also some boards tell you the temp of the cpu core, while some tell you the temp around the core.

What differences is this? It's almost like feeling the hot air around a sauce pan, and actually touching a sauce pan.

If you want to make sure if it's actually running hotter. Do a test and put the two chips on one of those two motherboards and see the temp differences then.

wasapeas · 05-13-2003, 11:14 PM

This might be a stupid question, but did you clean off the heatsink before you applied the Arctic Silver? Make sure it's clean, and try to get the THINNEST possible layer of AS between the heatsink and the core.

05-02-2003, 03:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
parafoil Insane Location: Ohio	One comp. is hot- one is cold????? I built two computers in the last two months. One computer runs very hot and one is cool. First the hot. AMD XP 1700 ( YES I put on a thin coat of arctic silver paste that came with heat sink http://www.motherboards.org/articles...des/924_4.html ) THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 11 HEATSINK ASUS A7N8X DELUXE AGP PNY GEFORCE 2 VIDEO CARD NO PCI CARDS ONE MAXTOR 80 GIG. ATA 133 ONE CD BURNER ONE CORSAIR 512 2700 MEMORY ANTEC 300WAT POWER SUPPLY When I put my hand behind this computer the air blowing out the back is hot like a hair dryer. It warms my 22’ by 14’ living room. ……….. The cool computer. AMD XP 2200 STOCK AMD HEATSINK with tape on it ECS K7VMM+ BOARD ONBOARD VIDEO NO PCI CARDS ONE MAXTOR 15 GIG. ATA100 ONE CD-ROM DRIVE TWO 256 PC-133 MEMORY ANTEC 350WATT POWER SUPPLY When I put my hand behind this computer I almost soiled myself. The air blowing out the back is cool. I mean the same temp. as if the fan was not even connected to a computer. …………. WELL THERE IT IS. Both run XP pro. Both cases are almost identical and have one 80mm fan blowing in the bottom front and one 80mm fan blowing out the top back. ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHY ONE RUNS COOL AND ONE RUNS HOT?

05-02-2003, 06:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
o14real Insane	Do they have the same power supply? diffrent power supplys give off diffrent amounts of heat. Also are the mother boards the same chip set? It also could be your GeForce 2, I have a GeForce 2 MX and it runs cool, but I also have a GeForce 256 and it runs hot. What temps do the 2 CPU's run at? I have a AMD 1700XP and have it over clocker to 1602 Mhz and have a Volcano 7 on it and it run around 115F. __________________ You heard it too didn't you? the voice of the wind.

05-02-2003, 12:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	use a monitoring program (like mother board monitor) to check the CPU temp, that shoudl show if its geting to hot. also had drives can put off a lot of heat __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

05-02-2003, 04:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ratman Addict Location: Somewhere... Across the sea...	The CD that comes with the Asus MB contains a system monitoring program called Asus Probe. It shows everything on your system from voltages to fan speed and temps. I have the same board with a 2500 Barton, I run at about 40C, with the fans spinning around 2100- 2400 RPMS. __________________ The difference between theory and reality is that in theory there is no difference. "God made man, but he used the monkey to do it." DEVO

05-11-2003, 11:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
reverendjay Insane Location: Baltimore	Well, one of them is running a hot processor, a hot Hard disk, and hot memory. The other one is running a relatively cool processor, cool hard disk, and cool memory. I suggest adding an intake fan to blow over your disk, and at least one more exhaust fan. Also, check to make sure that there's proper airflow through the system. A final note, Arctic silver blew up my last processor because I didn't know how to apply it properly. You want an extremely thin layer on the chip, because the thermal qualities of Arctic silver is kind of like wool in the summer. The thinner it is the less you sweat. Good luck, and remember to help your systems breathe. __________________ I'm married now, so the only thing in my house that pulls out now is the couch.

05-02-2003, 04:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
Loki Psycho Location: Drifting.	hm. the 2200 is probably a tbred b core, which means it naturally runs a LOT cooler then your 1700. i.e. my old athlon 1800 used to hover around 55 deg C (from what i remember). the new athlon 1800 i have (with a tbred core) hovers at around 30-35 deg C. [ edit ]: i should also add that the new 1800 i have runs at that temp OC'ed to speeds equivalent of a 2100 or a 2200, i forget. both values are with stock cooling, one case fan on, and with the same case.

05-02-2003, 06:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	I agree with 014real. I'd look at the power supply first.

05-13-2003, 05:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Huang_Gai Upright	I remember buying my 2200 because it had a new architecture that kept it cooler, .13 micron I think.

05-13-2003, 11:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Konichiwaneko The Dreaded Pixel Nazi Location: Inside my camera	Also some boards tell you the temp of the cpu core, while some tell you the temp around the core. What differences is this? It's almost like feeling the hot air around a sauce pan, and actually touching a sauce pan. If you want to make sure if it's actually running hotter. Do a test and put the two chips on one of those two motherboards and see the temp differences then. __________________ Hesitate. Pull me in. Breath on breath. Skin on skin. Loving deep. Falling fast. All right here. Let this last. Here with our lips locked tight. Baby the time is right for us... to forget about us.

05-13-2003, 11:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
wasapeas Upright	This might be a stupid question, but did you clean off the heatsink before you applied the Arctic Silver? Make sure it's clean, and try to get the THINNEST possible layer of AS between the heatsink and the core.