DVD+/-R/RW: Newbie Question. - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Jephree · 01-20-2004, 08:23 PM

Can someone just give me a quick step by step process to burning a DVD (a backup in case OG gets scratched )

I've tried using DVD Decryptor and DVD Shrink 3.1.2 to save the compressed .vob/.ifo files. However, before the process completes, a error pops up.
..I'm using the Pacific Digital 8x+/-R/RW (aka= LiteOn 851s f:GS08)
with Imation 4x+R media. Any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Finchie · 01-20-2004, 09:00 PM

Can you let us know what the error is? Do you have enough disk space?

Alternatively, you can try ripping your DVDs as an iso with Dvd Decryptor and seeing if that works. And can't DVD Shrink
rip dvds by itself? If so, you might want to try that.

Jephree · 01-21-2004, 12:13 PM

In regards to disk space, that definitely isn't a problem. The error that came up is copied below EXACTLY as it appeared: @ 83% progress:

_____________________________________________
I/O Error!
Device: [1:1:0] Lite-On DVDRW LSW-851s G50E ( E: )
ScSi Status: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition
CDB: 28 00 00 1A 7C AB 00 00 01 00
Interpretation: Read (10) - Sector 1735851
Sense Area: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 111 00 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Unrecovered Read Error
______________________________________________

I'm gonna try setting 'DMA available' on the IDE controller and see what happens. Does anyone have any input as to what this error means? It obviously is a read error, but I haven't a clue what to do from here.

sailor · 01-21-2004, 12:19 PM

Read Error--make sure the disc is clean and unscratched. Especially look about 80% towards the edge--thats where its failing. This isnt necessarily it, but it certainly could be.

Jephree · 01-25-2004, 10:54 PM

Whew, I was actually able to get some flix working. I used DVD Shrink and Nero to burn Dumb and Dumberer. Something weird hapenned though. The disc (Imation(RichohJPNR01-02)4xDVD+R) played in my non-chipped PS2 but not my Apex ad-1200. HUH?!? Can someone explain that? Maybe the ad-1200 doesn't support +R media.

dragonhawk · 01-26-2004, 08:07 AM

I have been fighting this since last week. I have a Liton LDW-411S burner.

Used DVDXcopy Platnium. Can not get the +R stuff to play in my Toshiba 2109, or my Apex-1200.
So I go buy some -R media. Same story.
Then I use Nero, disk copy the -RW movie I burned to a virtual image.
Then Disk Copy the Virtual Image to another -RW disk. Plays fine in the Apex. Huh?

Haven't tried any of this in my PS2.

I'll try doing the image to a +RW media tonight and see if the Apex will play it.

I found a utility to set the "bookmark" ? on the Liteon disk burner. The options are NORMAL DVD-ROM and DVD+R(W). The DVD-ROM is supposed to be more compatible with my Toshiba. Still haven't gotten that anything to play on it.

Let's try to work out a step-by-step to get this to work.

Jephree · 01-26-2004, 12:01 PM

Dragonhawk: I d-loaded the LiteOn 'Booktype' tool and found that this prog doesn't work with the 851s. I think the soon-to-be released firmware for this model will allow 851s users to use the 'Booktype' tool. So, let me get this straight. You burned the movie images from your HD to a blank -RW then burned that disc to another -RW disc and it worked in your ad1200? Like you said, huh? I'm thinking the ad1200's are more compatible with -R/RW media.

Cocktopus · 01-27-2004, 11:52 PM

I usually use DVD shrink for DVD9 DVD's then Nero 6's "DVD Video" option to burn the output. Nero's "DVD Copy" will copy most DVD5 DVDs, and when there's some kind of copy protection, I use DVD Decrypter, then Nero, or Shrink then Nero.

If I really want to waste some time making menus and stuff, I use DVDLab.

Not sure about Lite-Ons (heard they're pretty good), but my Pioneer 106 hasn't let me down yet....I mainly use DVD-R media, Ritek/Imation/Fuji.

dragonhawk · 01-28-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jephree
Dragonhawk: I d-loaded the LiteOn 'Booktype' tool and found that this prog doesn't work with the 851s. I think the soon-to-be released firmware for this model will allow 851s users to use the 'Booktype' tool. So, let me get this straight. You burned the movie images from your HD to a blank -RW then burned that disc to another -RW disc and it worked in your ad1200? Like you said, huh? I'm thinking the ad1200's are more compatible with -R/RW media.

Nope.
1: Copied move with DVD Xcopy to a DVD -RW (only works on computer)
2: Copied the DVD-RW with Nero to a image on the hard drive
3: Copied that image to another DVD-RW
4: New DVD-RW will play in the AD1200 & Playstation 2 (unmodded)

Have repeated this now more than once and it works like I said. I can't get a pristine copy to play in the AD1200. Gotta be a setting I am doing wrong the first time.
DVDXcopy won't let me burn an image to hard drive, and there don't seem to be many options to set. Must be something NERO is doing right.

Haven't gotten +R(W) to play in the AD1200 yet, about to try DVD+R on the PS2 and see if that works.

UPDATE: The DVD+R copy works on the PS2.

indiretto · 01-31-2004, 09:41 AM

I have been using LiteOn drives for a couple of years now and they are very good drives, as well as cheep. I have a Apex DVD player also and it doesn't play burned DVD's either, it could be something to do with there cheaper models. Also I have had better results burning the finished product with DVD Decrypter.

Arc101 · 01-31-2004, 09:55 AM

Ok I've just got into burning DVD's. I use Ulead DVD Workshop which seems to work fine. However, for VCD's I prefer Nero. Also I have had problems with the different DVD makes. I now use DVD's made by Ritek. Datawrite DVD's kept sticking & Princon did not work at all.

Jephree · 01-31-2004, 10:20 AM

lately i've been having trouble using Shrink 3.1.2 and Nero 5.5.10.54. After I burn the images to the HD, I usually check to the TS_Video folder to delete the extra stuff (trailers, director comments, etc). Then when I use Nero to burn, it fails at try trying to reallocate the files and won't burn correctly. Am I screwing the burn process by deleting the extra DVD features? Help?!?!?

SiN · 01-31-2004, 10:30 AM

delete from within dvdshrink.

Ashton · 01-31-2004, 12:03 PM

I use DVDXcopy gold and burn with a Sony +/- DW-U14A, the movies play fine in my Pioneer DVD player, I've used both + & - DVD's

Quote:

Originally posted by dragonhawk
Nope.
1: Copied move with DVD Xcopy to a DVD -RW (only works on computer)
2: Copied the DVD-RW with Nero to a image on the hard drive
3: Copied that image to another DVD-RW
4: New DVD-RW will play in the AD1200 & Playstation 2 (unmodded)

Have repeated this now more than once and it works like I said. I can't get a pristine copy to play in the AD1200. Gotta be a setting I am doing wrong the first time.
DVDXcopy won't let me burn an image to hard drive, and there don't seem to be many options to set. Must be something NERO is doing right.

Haven't gotten +R(W) to play in the AD1200 yet, about to try DVD+R on the PS2 and see if that works.

UPDATE: The DVD+R copy works on the PS2.

Jephree · 02-01-2004, 12:20 AM

Everything seems to work fine now. I just continue regardless of the error and everything is playing fine. However, I'm still unsuccessful in getting any of the +R's to play in my AD1200. The weird thing is that my PS2 (non-chipped) is playing everything fine. Luck of the draw I guess.

01-20-2004, 08:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jephree AKA: Boner Stabone Location: The one and only, SoCaLi	DVD+/-R/RW: Newbie Question. Can someone just give me a quick step by step process to burning a DVD (a backup in case OG gets scratched ) I've tried using DVD Decryptor and DVD Shrink 3.1.2 to save the compressed .vob/.ifo files. However, before the process completes, a error pops up. ..I'm using the Pacific Digital 8x+/-R/RW (aka= LiteOn 851s f:GS08) with Imation 4x+R media. Any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. __________________ When's the next good swell in SoCal?

01-21-2004, 12:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jephree AKA: Boner Stabone Location: The one and only, SoCaLi	In regards to disk space, that definitely isn't a problem. The error that came up is copied below EXACTLY as it appeared: @ 83% progress: _____________________________________________ I/O Error! Device: [1:1:0] Lite-On DVDRW LSW-851s G50E ( E: ) ScSi Status: 0x02 Interpretation: Check Condition CDB: 28 00 00 1A 7C AB 00 00 01 00 Interpretation: Read (10) - Sector 1735851 Sense Area: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 111 00 00 00 00 00 Interpretation: Unrecovered Read Error ______________________________________________ I'm gonna try setting 'DMA available' on the IDE controller and see what happens. Does anyone have any input as to what this error means? It obviously is a read error, but I haven't a clue what to do from here. __________________ When's the next good swell in SoCal?

01-21-2004, 12:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	Read Error--make sure the disc is clean and unscratched. Especially look about 80% towards the edge--thats where its failing. This isnt necessarily it, but it certainly could be. __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

01-26-2004, 08:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
dragonhawk Psycho Location: In Games.	I have been fighting this since last week. I have a Liton LDW-411S burner. Used DVDXcopy Platnium. Can not get the +R stuff to play in my Toshiba 2109, or my Apex-1200. So I go buy some -R media. Same story. Then I use Nero, disk copy the -RW movie I burned to a virtual image. Then Disk Copy the Virtual Image to another -RW disk. Plays fine in the Apex. Huh? Haven't tried any of this in my PS2. I'll try doing the image to a +RW media tonight and see if the Apex will play it. I found a utility to set the "bookmark" ? on the Liteon disk burner. The options are NORMAL DVD-ROM and DVD+R(W). The DVD-ROM is supposed to be more compatible with my Toshiba. Still haven't gotten that anything to play on it. Let's try to work out a step-by-step to get this to work. __________________ ---------------------------------------------- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

01-26-2004, 12:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jephree AKA: Boner Stabone Location: The one and only, SoCaLi	Dragonhawk: I d-loaded the LiteOn 'Booktype' tool and found that this prog doesn't work with the 851s. I think the soon-to-be released firmware for this model will allow 851s users to use the 'Booktype' tool. So, let me get this straight. You burned the movie images from your HD to a blank -RW then burned that disc to another -RW disc and it worked in your ad1200? Like you said, huh? I'm thinking the ad1200's are more compatible with -R/RW media. Last edited by Jephree; 01-26-2004 at 07:51 PM..

01-20-2004, 09:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Finchie Tilted	Can you let us know what the error is? Do you have enough disk space? Alternatively, you can try ripping your DVDs as an iso with Dvd Decryptor and seeing if that works. And can't DVD Shrink rip dvds by itself? If so, you might want to try that.

01-25-2004, 10:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jephree AKA: Boner Stabone Location: The one and only, SoCaLi	Whew, I was actually able to get some flix working. I used DVD Shrink and Nero to burn Dumb and Dumberer. Something weird hapenned though. The disc (Imation(RichohJPNR01-02)4xDVD+R) played in my non-chipped PS2 but not my Apex ad-1200. HUH?!? Can someone explain that? Maybe the ad-1200 doesn't support +R media.

01-27-2004, 11:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cocktopus Insane	I usually use DVD shrink for DVD9 DVD's then Nero 6's "DVD Video" option to burn the output. Nero's "DVD Copy" will copy most DVD5 DVDs, and when there's some kind of copy protection, I use DVD Decrypter, then Nero, or Shrink then Nero. If I really want to waste some time making menus and stuff, I use DVDLab. Not sure about Lite-Ons (heard they're pretty good), but my Pioneer 106 hasn't let me down yet....I mainly use DVD-R media, Ritek/Imation/Fuji.

01-31-2004, 09:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
indiretto Tilted Location: USA, Oregon	I have been using LiteOn drives for a couple of years now and they are very good drives, as well as cheep. I have a Apex DVD player also and it doesn't play burned DVD's either, it could be something to do with there cheaper models. Also I have had better results burning the finished product with DVD Decrypter. __________________ Happy Tree Friends... It’s more fun than a stick.

01-31-2004, 09:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	Ok I've just got into burning DVD's. I use Ulead DVD Workshop which seems to work fine. However, for VCD's I prefer Nero. Also I have had problems with the different DVD makes. I now use DVD's made by Ritek. Datawrite DVD's kept sticking & Princon did not work at all.

01-31-2004, 10:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jephree AKA: Boner Stabone Location: The one and only, SoCaLi	lately i've been having trouble using Shrink 3.1.2 and Nero 5.5.10.54. After I burn the images to the HD, I usually check to the TS_Video folder to delete the extra stuff (trailers, director comments, etc). Then when I use Nero to burn, it fails at try trying to reallocate the files and won't burn correctly. Am I screwing the burn process by deleting the extra DVD features? Help?!?!? __________________ When's the next good swell in SoCal?

01-31-2004, 10:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Location: ...more here than there...	delete from within dvdshrink. __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach

02-01-2004, 12:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jephree AKA: Boner Stabone Location: The one and only, SoCaLi	Everything seems to work fine now. I just continue regardless of the error and everything is playing fine. However, I'm still unsuccessful in getting any of the +R's to play in my AD1200. The weird thing is that my PS2 (non-chipped) is playing everything fine. Luck of the draw I guess. __________________ When's the next good swell in SoCal?