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arch13 · 10-29-2003, 10:10 PM

Can anyone recommend a good program that can tell me if the memory on a system board is in fact ECC?
I'm looking into motherboard monitor as it works with Systemetrix which several computers already use, however any recomendations of a small program that can identify at least ECC or Non-ECC and preferably manufactuer and of course memory size would be greatly appreciated.

And in case your wondering, i've been given access to a universities bonyard of old machines and want to quickly find which computers have that all valueable ECC memory

cliche · 10-30-2003, 12:12 AM

Aida32 gives you that sort of information, and much more. It can read all the details from memory and other devices....

For speed, when looking at multiple machines, it works fine without an install - I have it on a USB disk and simply run it from there when I have to investigate a machine.

supafly · 10-30-2003, 03:18 AM

You can also use Sisoft Sandra.

tontoom · 10-30-2003, 03:49 AM

Aida32 looks nice. I will try it when I get home. Thanks for link.

poof · 10-30-2003, 11:56 AM

Unless you have a server, you should not be concerned. Your querie was limited in info, and, I suppose I should suggest some app that would detect such. Sorry.

In case you don't have a server, here are some links with info on error correction code memory.

http://cr.yp.to/hardware/ecc.html

http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushki...UserTemplate/3

http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/sea...p?mode=results

As far as a program to inform you of the system you are working on, and the ram installed. Check the links I posted. They all go somewhere, eventually.

Aida did not help me. It was of limited use. Must have been the free version I tried.

cliche · 10-30-2003, 02:18 PM

poof - Aida32 has a freeware licence - all versions are free...
Try looking again; it gives a pretty great amount of information (certainly the most of anything I've seen so far). What exactly were you after that it didn't do for you?

sipsake · 10-30-2003, 02:27 PM

I agree with cliche.

I use Aida32 on my network at work. Gives me all the information I could ever want on any workstation or server on the network. Also allows for a variety of ways to format the report for later use.

It's become one of those "gotta have" apps that I use often.

sipsake · 10-30-2003, 02:45 PM

Here's a screenshot from Aida32

poof · 10-30-2003, 04:28 PM

Hmmm, evidently I need to give Aida a second look. Thanks. I am not seeing the forest.

MahlerIsGod · 10-30-2003, 07:42 PM

How did Mr. Sipsake capture his screen? That would be incredibly useful? Can someone fill me in on a program or app.? Thanks.

cliche · 10-31-2003, 04:48 AM

MahlerIsGod - there are loads of screen capture utilities around, you can just google for it. However, I find it much simpler to just press 'Alt' & 'Print Screen' which copies the current screen to the clipboard. Load up MS Paint (ugh) and paste it in; then cut the bits you want...

sipsake · 10-31-2003, 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by MahlerIsGod
How did Mr. Sipsake capture his screen? That would be incredibly useful? Can someone fill me in on a program or app.? Thanks.

I used a program called SnagIt. It has a variety of capture and save options.

seretogis · 10-31-2003, 06:36 AM

Registered ECC ram should also look quite a bit different than "normal" ram. I have some ECC in my old linux server and it's a good half inch "taller" than my other sdram and ddr-ram.

arch13 · 10-31-2003, 09:34 AM

So in the error detection column of your screen shot, it would say ECC is that feature was present i take it?
Seems logical enough and it's a very easy program to use.
Thanks everybody for the suggestions.

arch13 · 11-04-2003, 05:53 PM

For anyone using AIDA32 as their program of choice, what does it mean when i have real clock and effective clock in the motherboard information?
I've got 2700ddr memory that's reading a real clock of 167Mhz and an effictive clock of 333Mhz while my FSB is running at 133MHz real and 267Mhz effective.
Are the effective numbers the actual clock speeds, or are they the max clock speeds and i'm currently running at the "real" clock speeds?

hy_ · 11-04-2003, 05:54 PM

SiSoft Sandra will do the job.

arch13 · 11-04-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by hy_
SiSoft Sandra will do the job.

Yes, But Aida runs off a memory stick without needing to be installed as per the earlier posts above.

I'm working on sorting and classifying over 200 motherboard this week to determine what the IT dept can kill off and what stays.
I spotted a newer board with red PCB and no brand name, which leads me to think MSI or old FC and when i posted it, got a windows 2k OS, and ran AIDA32 of the usb chip, those where the responses.
Not an issue for most of these P2 boards, but this is an Athlon board that's really out of place in a room of 250+ old P2's

As you can figure i want to get to the bottom of where it came from, why it's there, and if non one needs it so i can shove it into my cars back seat.

Now does anyone know what the difference is between "real" and "Effictive" clock speeds in AIDA32?
Thank you for any responses.

heyal256 · 11-04-2003, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arch13

I've got 2700ddr memory that's reading a real clock of 167Mhz and an effictive clock of 333Mhz while my FSB is running at 133MHz real and 267Mhz effective.
Are the effective numbers the actual clock speeds, or are they the max clock speeds and i'm currently running at the "real" clock speeds?

I think that this goes to how marketing has really screwed up all sorts of computer terms......
The real clock speed is just that the actual speed that your ram is runing at. The effective speed is just how much work is actually being done.
I.E. regular sdram = 133 mhz (real and effective)
ddr (double data rate) sdram = 133 (real) and 266 (133*2) effective
so for qdr (quad data rate which if/when it comes out) = 133 mhz(real) and 533 (133*4) effective.

The multipliers are there because ddr can do 2 * more work then a "regular" stick of ram at the same clock speed.

10-29-2003, 10:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
arch13 Loves my girl in thongs Location: North of Mexico, South of Canada	System properties programs Can anyone recommend a good program that can tell me if the memory on a system board is in fact ECC? I'm looking into motherboard monitor as it works with Systemetrix which several computers already use, however any recomendations of a small program that can identify at least ECC or Non-ECC and preferably manufactuer and of course memory size would be greatly appreciated. And in case your wondering, i've been given access to a universities bonyard of old machines and want to quickly find which computers have that all valueable ECC memory __________________ Seen on an employer evaluation: "The wheel is turning but the hamsters dead" ____________________________ Is arch13 really a porn diety ? find out after the film at 11. -Nanofever

10-30-2003, 12:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
cliche Rookie Location: Oxford, UK	Aida32 gives you that sort of information, and much more. It can read all the details from memory and other devices.... For speed, when looking at multiple machines, it works fine without an install - I have it on a USB disk and simply run it from there when I have to investigate a machine. __________________ I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage (1912 - 1992)

10-30-2003, 03:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
supafly Psycho Location: Rotterdam	You can also use Sisoft Sandra. __________________ Thumbs up

10-30-2003, 03:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
tontoom Upright	Aida32 looks nice. I will try it when I get home. Thanks for link. __________________ Viking come with peas

10-30-2003, 02:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
cliche Rookie Location: Oxford, UK	poof - Aida32 has a freeware licence - all versions are free... Try looking again; it gives a pretty great amount of information (certainly the most of anything I've seen so far). What exactly were you after that it didn't do for you? __________________ I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage (1912 - 1992)

10-30-2003, 11:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
poof Psycho	Unless you have a server, you should not be concerned. Your querie was limited in info, and, I suppose I should suggest some app that would detect such. Sorry. In case you don't have a server, here are some links with info on error correction code memory. http://cr.yp.to/hardware/ecc.html http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushki...UserTemplate/3 http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/sea...p?mode=results As far as a program to inform you of the system you are working on, and the ram installed. Check the links I posted. They all go somewhere, eventually. Aida did not help me. It was of limited use. Must have been the free version I tried.

10-30-2003, 02:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
sipsake Psycho Location: Memphis	I agree with cliche. I use Aida32 on my network at work. Gives me all the information I could ever want on any workstation or server on the network. Also allows for a variety of ways to format the report for later use. It's become one of those "gotta have" apps that I use often. __________________ When life hands you a lemon, say "Oh yeah, I like lemons. What else you got?" Henry Rollins Last edited by sipsake; 10-30-2003 at 02:29 PM..

10-30-2003, 02:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
sipsake Psycho Location: Memphis	Here's a screenshot from Aida32 __________________ When life hands you a lemon, say "Oh yeah, I like lemons. What else you got?" Henry Rollins

10-30-2003, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
poof Psycho	Hmmm, evidently I need to give Aida a second look. Thanks. I am not seeing the forest.

10-30-2003, 07:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
MahlerIsGod At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done Location: London/Elysium	How did Mr. Sipsake capture his screen? That would be incredibly useful? Can someone fill me in on a program or app.? Thanks. __________________ "But a work of art is a conscious human effort that has to do with communication. It is that or its nothing. When an accident is applauded as a work of art, when a cult grows up around the deliciousness of inadvertent beauty, we are in the presence of the greatest decadence the West has known in its history."

10-31-2003, 04:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
cliche Rookie Location: Oxford, UK	MahlerIsGod - there are loads of screen capture utilities around, you can just google for it. However, I find it much simpler to just press 'Alt' & 'Print Screen' which copies the current screen to the clipboard. Load up MS Paint (ugh) and paste it in; then cut the bits you want... __________________ I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage (1912 - 1992)

10-31-2003, 06:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	Registered ECC ram should also look quite a bit different than "normal" ram. I have some ECC in my old linux server and it's a good half inch "taller" than my other sdram and ddr-ram. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

10-31-2003, 09:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
arch13 Loves my girl in thongs Location: North of Mexico, South of Canada	So in the error detection column of your screen shot, it would say ECC is that feature was present i take it? Seems logical enough and it's a very easy program to use. Thanks everybody for the suggestions. __________________ Seen on an employer evaluation: "The wheel is turning but the hamsters dead" ____________________________ Is arch13 really a porn diety ? find out after the film at 11. -Nanofever

11-04-2003, 05:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
arch13 Loves my girl in thongs Location: North of Mexico, South of Canada	Real vs. effictive bus speeds? For anyone using AIDA32 as their program of choice, what does it mean when i have real clock and effective clock in the motherboard information? I've got 2700ddr memory that's reading a real clock of 167Mhz and an effictive clock of 333Mhz while my FSB is running at 133MHz real and 267Mhz effective. Are the effective numbers the actual clock speeds, or are they the max clock speeds and i'm currently running at the "real" clock speeds? __________________ Seen on an employer evaluation: "The wheel is turning but the hamsters dead" ____________________________ Is arch13 really a porn diety ? find out after the film at 11. -Nanofever

11-04-2003, 05:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
hy_ Crazy	SiSoft Sandra will do the job.