08-07-2003, 03:37 PM | #1 (permalink) |
Upright
Location: S. Florida
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i want an instant-on computer
Is there such a thing as a computer that is ready for action right when you turn it on? (not 5 minutes later)
I really want one. If one doesnt exist they should get on that asap. Frankly I dont give a crap about extra mhz or ram or cpu blah blah blah if they put all that energy they spend squeezing out a few extra mhz into making a computer that turns on like a TV id upgrade tomorrow. |
08-07-2003, 03:47 PM | #2 (permalink) |
Stonerific
Location: Colorado
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Don't turn your computer off! Wee!
For the record, my iMac starts up in 40 seconds, I'd bet. If I can't find something to occupy myself for 40 seconds...well... I'd consider it a sad day.
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08-07-2003, 03:53 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Crazy
Location: In an office with no windows
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Newer windows systems with a clean OS actually boot up pretty quick, but certainly not instantly. With Windows systems it really helps to do a clean install every year (or more frequently) to clean up all the garbage. A large number of programs (MS Office, RealPlayer, for example) install something that has to be started at boot-up that can severely degrade performance.
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08-07-2003, 04:01 PM | #5 (permalink) |
is a shoggoth
Location: LA
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just don't turn off the damd computer. I don't know windows that well, but I bet that there is an option in there to "powersave" your monitor, so it will go off after 15 minutes or so. When you move the mouse *bang* your right back on.
hey its what us linux guys do.
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08-07-2003, 04:45 PM | #7 (permalink) |
Friend
Location: New Mexico
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Ya i know mine boots up in 25-30 seconds, whats the big deal about waiting that long? I agree with the others though, i leave my computer on 24/7 and only reset when its necessary.
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08-07-2003, 07:23 PM | #11 (permalink) |
The GrandDaddy of them all!
Location: Austin, TX
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hibernate is the way to go indeed.
i would say a proper hibernate restart takes < 10 secs easy on a good pc. (< 5 is also attainable)
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08-07-2003, 08:17 PM | #13 (permalink) |
Gentlemen Farmer
Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey
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There is actually alot of research going into this very issue. Essentially what 'takes so long' is seeking the hardrive for data and loading said data into memory. Hard drove speed has been improving as has memory access speed, but it will still take time.
The solution. It's called NVRam...Non-Volatile Random Access Memory. Memory that does not loose it's contents when powered off. That way nothing needs to be re-found on the hard drive or re-loaded into memory when powered back on. It's certainly a few years off...but rest assured your interest has been heard and being worked on. -bear
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08-07-2003, 11:55 PM | #17 (permalink) |
Still searching...
Location: NorCal For Life
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BeOS can do it. It takes about 9 seconds give or take. Also a stripped down linux version can do it. Also, depending on what version of windows you use, you can do it. Try here for more info.
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08-08-2003, 05:49 AM | #19 (permalink) |
Upright
Location: S. Florida
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I have several unique issues with my bootup. It takes 5 minutes (ive timed it) Something is wrong somewhere in all those transistors so that each time I reboot I have to reprogram in my hd settings which takes about 1 minute with autoset. BIOS saves all its other settings except that one so go figure. SB Live is the other culprit. It automatically loads a dos emulator which I never ever need or use. I can disable it, and it will be fine for 1 reboot which then only takes 20 seconds, but somehow it programs itself back into startup memory like one of those evil birthday candles that light back up every time you blow them out.
I dread lockups and I punch walls when the power goes off for a split second. |
08-08-2003, 12:49 PM | #22 (permalink) |
Junkie
Location: RI
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On my linux computer, it takes maybe a good 20-30 seconds. That's also including the login. I run a copy of Libranet and I run IceWM-Experimental and it takes no time at all.
I don't see what the purpose of an instant on computer... Maybe I'm to old school and use my moms computer to much where I need to wait at least a minute for it to boot up. I mean, if you can't wait at least a minute for the computer to start, calm down and lay off the coffee maybe... |
08-08-2003, 05:40 PM | #23 (permalink) |
Insane
Location: Over here
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9:36pm up 163 day(s), 11:23, 6 users, load average: 1.11, 1.06, 1.05
'nuff said This may interest some of you...to pass Microsoft WHQL certification, a PC has to POST *and* boot WinXP Pro/Home all within 30 seconds, resume from standby in 5 seconds, and resume from suspend in (I think?) 9 seconds. The biggest obstacle we had in passing the resume tests? finding a monitor that woke up fast enough! |
08-09-2003, 08:10 AM | #24 (permalink) |
Fucking Hostile
Location: Springford, ON, Canada
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My Tibook starts up almost as quickly as I can lift the lid on it if I leve it in suspend mode. Can't get much quicker than that.
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08-13-2003, 09:44 PM | #25 (permalink) | |
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08-13-2003, 09:47 PM | #26 (permalink) |
Tilted
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Since I never turn my comp off I dont have to do this, but with my comp (1.2, 512 ram, XP) when I turn it on, it takes about 15 seconds from when I hit the button, till when I'm searching for porn. I also have over 200gig of HD space. Yummy
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08-14-2003, 11:13 PM | #33 (permalink) |
Upright
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I personally don't use hibernate or standby, because my monitor's fucked. I use a program called Coloreal Bright to make my monitor's brightness normal. It runs in the systray, but takes up immense amounts of RAM, so I normally close it and the effect stays. But if I hibernate or suspend, I need to re-run the program.
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08-16-2003, 12:33 AM | #35 (permalink) |
Insane
Location: Pullman, WA
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I feel sorry for the people who still use ME.... I use XP and it boots up just fine, jiggle the mouse and its up (Oh you mean after i shut it down?? ~30 seconds).... Although, XP sucks cause it has too much bloat-ware in it. Oh well, 24/7 up time to thank for it. It will be awhile before we have 'instant on' computers, this is because even though computers are getting faster, the ammound they have to do at start up and store in ram is also growing and will likely keep syncronized for some time to come. The reason we restart is to flush the ram and it takes time to fill that ram back up at boot.
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08-16-2003, 12:43 AM | #36 (permalink) |
Insane
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I see an instant-on computer in your future. It will be using polymer memory technology secretly being developed at AMD.
http://www.siliconstrategies.com/art...cleId=13000187 |
08-16-2003, 05:41 PM | #37 (permalink) |
Upright
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I run Windows 2000 on a laptop and hit the "sleep" button every once in a while. One keypress and 3 seconds later, and W2K is up and running.
I'd call that instant.
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08-17-2003, 09:51 AM | #39 (permalink) |
Tilted
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if you can find a big enough flash memory card (like used for a digicamera), there are flash card -> ide adapters. install OS onto the flash card and it boots up damn fast (as tested w/ win98 boot disk: I imagine it'd still be fast w/ a whole OS, though not as much). not having to spin up the hard drive helps
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