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SecretMethod70 04-19-2003 03:29 AM

Top Linux Downloads
 
This (among the two other variations of it for different major OS's) was one of my favorite threads on TFP 3.

List your favorite suggestions for Linux downloads here and briefly explain why.

To start, I recommend <a href="http://www.abiword.org">abiword</a> - my personal favorite word processor.

More to come ;)

Motry Latchman 04-19-2003 03:53 AM

I mentioned in another thread I use Mandrake - it comes with so many apps it's sometimes hard to find anything useful and functional to download that isn't already on the distribution disks. A nice contrast to the windows world.

Dave 04-19-2003 04:45 AM

If you need to find some software for *nix, start with freshmeat.

bullgoose 04-19-2003 06:10 AM

I'm a distro-slut; if a penguin winks at me, I've got to take it home. I'm using RedHat 9.0 right now, but I could just as well re-boot and use Debian Sarge; Debian is my personal preference, but RH 9 is really pretty; more user-friendly so to speak, which brings me to my software reccomendation; if you're using RedHat, the default package management system is RPMS (spelled S-U-C-K-S), there is an application that allows RedHat users to experience the joy of using Debians wonderful package management system; it's called apt-rpm, and it beats RedHat's default system six ways to Sunday. My suggestion would be to do a Google search (Google is your friend) and D/L and install apt-rpm immediatly, along with Synaptic, a GUI frontend for apt-rpm; once you get the hang of it, you'll wonder how you ever did without it!

Krycheck 04-19-2003 07:48 AM

Kopete - A Trillian like instant messenger client. Supports AIM, ICQ, MSN and IRC. Support for Yahoo comming soon

Rdesktop - A Terminal Server client for of course linux.

Explore2fs - A nifty program for browsing your linux partitions from Windows. Nice for recovering and editing linux files from Windows.

WineX - A different flavor of Wine for linux that is made for gaming. Works great!! Buy a subcription and get the latest betas and pre-packaged versions.

I think that about covers it for me for now :D

fracturedmind 04-19-2003 08:53 AM

Apt-Get - Easy rpm updater, for linux noobs like me!

bullgoose 04-19-2003 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fracturedmind
Apt-Get - Easy rpm updater, for linux noobs like me!
Damn straight, Skippy; BUT apt-get is a command that you use to get dpkg to work in Debian; there is a port of Debian's packaging system to use on RPM-type systems, but make sure you use the correct one for whatever disto you're running; if you don't, it won't work, or worse, it'll kark your system. When it's configured right, it's better'n a tight pussy!

fracturedmind 04-19-2003 09:20 AM

Quote:

it's better'n a tight pussy!
Thought I was on the wrong board for a sec ;)

Yeah people need to check on that site if the apt-get on freshrpms will work for their distro, I seriously have no idea how to use debian, I only wish :P

bullgoose 04-19-2003 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fracturedmind
Thought I was on the wrong board for a sec ;)

Yeah people need to check on that site if the apt-get on freshrpms will work for their distro, I seriously have no idea how to use debian, I only wish :P

If you want to learn Debian, I'd suggest Libranet Linux 2.0; there's a new version due out soon, but you can D/L 2.0 from Libranet's website. Libranet is basically Debian 3.0 (Woody) with one REALLY nice proprietary app thrown in; adminmenu, it allows the root user to do the bullshit stuff ( adduser, kernel re-compile, SCSI emulation, etc.) right from the desktop, or, if you have an xwindow problem, you can use adminmenu at the CLI; just cd /usr/bin
./adminmenu and off you go. All the neat Debian utilities work in Libranet, most prominently apt/dpkg, and the install is nowhere near as daunting. My only problem with Libranet is that they're releasing upgrades about every 4 months; at (approx) $50.00 us, it's a little too rich for my blood. Oh well, you just edit /etc/sources.apt to point at whatever level of pure Debian you want (stable, testing or unstable) then apt-get update/apt-get dist upgrade and you're using pure Debian, upgraded to the latest software releases. I've see the claim made that there are Debian users who have only installed once; they just do an apt-get dist-upgrade when Debian has a new release.
DEBIAN- Breakfast of CHAMPIONS!!

fracturedmind 04-19-2003 10:33 AM

Hmm, well if I got the real Debian, and went thru a million FAQs and got it running ... would it be much like Redhat at all? I'm really a linux noob, I know how to use the terminal I mean... I don't just boot into XWindows and say "Yay I'm using Linux" and open Mozilla and gAIM :P

But say I install it, this apt-get for Debian is much like Redhat? So I can update the noob way? What about packages it comes with? Am I going to be stuck trying to install everything by hand or does it come with packages like redhat?

I'd like to get off Redhat to I can get a challenge but if its going to give me a useless laptop then I'll pass :P I do use it often, so if it wouldnt be working in a few days I'd be pissed at myself ;)

SecretMethod70 04-19-2003 12:45 PM

I hear that Gentoo's portage cvan be installed on other distros - if so I HIGHLY recommend it. I don't know what kind of configuration it would require but whatever it is it would be well worth it.

One thing I forgot to mention was my favorite IRC client, XChat (www.xchat.org) The cool thing about Linux though is that most great downloads don't even need to be downloaded for most distros! Of course, with distros like LFS (Linux From Scratch), Gentoo, Slackware, etc, they're ALL downloads! :p

ChipX86 04-19-2003 01:55 PM

I'd have to say Gaim, but you knew I was going to say that.

Actually, I think galeon is an amazing browser. It feels comfortable and I love the smart bookmarks.

Another one is <a href="http://www.gkrellm.net/">gkrellm</a>. It's a very configurable, nice looking system monitor for Linux.

duckduck 04-19-2003 01:59 PM

Gotta be Quake or Quake II. Since they're now open source, just download them and you've got 2 of the best games EVER for free. Plus, what with executable mods like tenebrae, telejano, fuhquake, and so on, you get the classic games with the graphics of today (ie. telejano) or the graphics of tomorrow (ie. tenebrae). I also highly recommend getting the texture paks if you download them, though. It makes a rather large difference.

What are ya waiting for? Game on!

Empty_One 04-19-2003 02:04 PM

My favorite download is Galeon. Best mozilla based browser there is as far as I'm comcerned. I like the way it handles tabs better than mozilla or phoenix (firebird)

Crimson 04-19-2003 02:17 PM

irssi for irc and gaim

Also phoenix as it has the mozilal interface I love with the speed my 500mhz box needs

bullgoose 04-19-2003 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fracturedmind
Hmm, well if I got the real Debian, and went thru a million FAQs and got it running ... would it be much like Redhat at all? I'm really a linux noob, I know how to use the terminal I mean... I don't just boot into XWindows and say "Yay I'm using Linux" and open Mozilla and gAIM :P

But say I install it, this apt-get for Debian is much like Redhat? So I can update the noob way? What about packages it comes with? Am I going to be stuck trying to install everything by hand or does it come with packages like redhat?

I'd like to get off Redhat to I can get a challenge but if its going to give me a useless laptop then I'll pass :P I do use it often, so if it wouldnt be working in a few days I'd be pissed at myself ;)

The biggest advantage that apt/dpkg has over RPM's is the fact that it's smart enough to know if there are unmet dependancies; if there are, it won't even D/L the package until it comes up with the other packages that meet the dependancies; with that accomplishes, THEN it D/L's everything, and hen installs AND CONFIGURES the software you want; no fuss, no muss.
The other thing is this; YOU have to determine when you want to upgrade Redhat, then you can do the dependancy fight, and with good luck, you won't trash your system; with apt/dpkg, you establish a connection to Debian's server, enter "apt-get update" (without quotes) and then Debian checks all the installed packages in your box; if there are newer versions, it notifies you, you then enter "apt-get dist-upgrade" and ALL the packages on your system are upgraded to the latest version, with all dependancies met and configured AUTOMATICALLY. The really cool thing is; if you WANT to do an upgrade everyday, you can! I love apt/dpkg, but be warned, go slow at first- even apt/dpkg can trash a system if you don't think before you act; otherwise, it's really the best package manager available, and yes, it works just as good at the command line (matter of fact, that's how I use it most of the time). There's lots more to apt/dpkg, but the upgrading ability is the best, as far as I'm concerned.
I have the 7-CD-ROM set of Woody, but all you really need is the 3 CD-ROM set for a pretty well setup installation; CheapBytes is a good place to deal with, or I can burn you a set, if you trust me (NOT a wise thing >GRIN<)

Boner 04-19-2003 03:38 PM

Here are my picks. Some of these are already included in some distros.

- GAIM
- Ximian Evolution (like Outlook)
- Mozilla
- PAN (Pimp Ass Newsreader)
- GIMP (Image Editor)
- apt-get for RPM, if a RedHat system
- SpamAssassin (kicks ass if you run your own mailserver)
- Gallery, an excellent PHP-based photo gallery

One last thing I want to mention, but not a Linux download:
- CYGWIN

CYGWIN is a port of the Unix API's to Windows. It includes many of the utilities and a compiler, and an X-Server. If you are forced to live in Windows land part time, it is definitely worth the download (http://sources.redhat.com)

phunktastic 04-19-2003 04:42 PM

Gaim, mozilla, PAN

SecretMethod70 04-21-2003 01:41 AM

Karamba (<a href="http://www.efd.lth.se/~d98hk/karamba/">LINK</a>) - a Samurize-like program for KDE.

slicKer (<a href="http://slicker.sourceforge.net/">LINK</a>) - designed to be a kicker replacement (also KDE), this utilizes desktop "cards." There is no actual release yet but It's very nice to run out of CVS.

saberyo 04-21-2003 09:44 AM

vim - personal favorite editor!

mozilla - cross platform browsing @ its best

spamassassin - a must to keep that email meat product free

maildrop - to wrangle emails into their appropriate folders

I could go on for ever, and luckily I don't have to down load any of these on my own:

"sudo emerge $MY_FAVORITE_APP" will handle it for me and "sudo emerge -u world" will keep 'em up to date!

Binder 04-26-2003 07:40 AM

Re: Top Linux Downloads
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMethod70
This (among the two other variations of it for different major OS's) was one of my favorite threads on TFP 3.
this was a great thread, thanks for reviving it.

another good irc app is
bitchx

SecretMethod70 04-27-2003 02:24 AM

Time to have some FUN!

Been playing around with some games, so here are a few excellent ones :)...

<a href="http://www.reptilelabour.com/software/chromium/">Chromium B.S.U.</a>
<a href="http://www.tobias-nopper.de/BillardGL/index-en.html">BillardGL</a>
<a href="http://www.frozen-bubble.org/">Frozen Bubble</a>
<a href="http://www.linux-games.com/penguin-command/">Penguin Command</a>

SecretMethod70 12-18-2003 12:40 AM

I'm making this same post on both the Windows and Linux threads because it can pertain to both. Also, it's actually an extension to a program rather than a program itself, but it's SO excellent that I just have to share it with people and these two threads seemed like the most appropriate places.

Anyways, it's called AdBlock and it's an extension to Mozilla and/or Firebird. It can be downloaded from http://adblock.mozdev.org

Basically, it makes it REALLY easy to block banner ads and other advertising images from websites as you browse them and it just recently had functionality added to block flash advertisements in pages too

If you use Mozilla or Firebird, I HIGHLY suggest you check this out!

oberon 12-18-2003 05:17 AM

Interesting that you just revived a thread that's been dead for nearly eight months...

In any case, I recently installed these cool games on my FreeBSD workstation at home but if you have DRI working on your Linux or FreeBSD machines these open-source 3D games are a lot of fun:

neverball and neverputt - tilt a board to roll a ball through an obstacle course; also 3D putt
gl-117 - flight simulator type game

sailor 12-18-2003 02:13 PM

My Debian install came from a Knoppix disk, so its pretty well packed with anything I could ever need...

Gkrellm, however, is far and away the best system monitor I have ever used.

I, too like apt-get. Its pretty much what keeps me running Debian.

SecretMethod70 12-18-2003 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oberon
Interesting that you just revived a thread that's been dead for nearly eight months...
Nothin' like placing posts in the appropriate pre-existing threads ;)

Latch 12-19-2003 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMethod70
Nothin' like placing posts in the appropriate pre-existing threads ;)
You must have search privileges, huh? Otherwise this would have been a complete BITCH to go back and find hehe.

Xirax 12-21-2003 02:54 PM

I'd have to put a vote in for the noia iconset. Not very useful, but pretty good looking!

Also giFT-cvs + Apollon work nicely for me

did anyone mention xmms? More or less standard with any distro, i guess.

3ddesktop is another prog that's fun for a change. Impress those users of other OS's that don't get to see cool things everyday.

yotta 12-22-2003 08:24 PM

http://unixcode.org/uptimed/

I like to brag about uptimes.


[0]$ uprecords -a -m 5
# Uptime | System Boot up
----------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
1 44 days, 21:52:00 | Linux 2.4.19-35mdk Tue Oct 21 22:37:59 2003
2 41 days, 09:09:16 | Linux 2.4.18-8.1mdk Wed Apr 16 20:19:38 2003
3 20 days, 00:05:17 | Linux 2.4.18-8.1mdk Mon Mar 3 23:15:19 2003
4 19 days, 21:42:24 | Linux 2.4.18-8.1mdk Sun Jun 22 23:07:24 2003
5 19 days, 15:43:43 | Linux 2.4.18-8.1mdk Fri Oct 25 16:12:55 2002
----------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
-> 13 9 days, 16:03:58 | Linux 2.4.19-35mdk Sat Dec 13 04:19:23 2003
----------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
1up in 0 days, 01:39:55 | at Mon Dec 22 22:03:02 2003
no1 in 35 days, 05:48:03 | at Tue Jan 27 02:11:10 2004

oberon 12-22-2003 08:31 PM

Heh. Uptimes are just another whos-got-a-bigger-dick contest. :p

Try this on for size (all FreeBSD machines):

up 102 days, 23:59, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
up 103 days, 1:22, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00
up 334 days, 10:53, 1 user, load averages: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
up 340 days, 11:14, 1 user, load averages: 0.42, 0.55, 0.58
up 551 days, 7:57, 0 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.06, 0.07

...and I have access to dozens in the 50-100 range. Good old reliable systems. I'm hoping for that last one to hit 2 years. :)

yotta 12-24-2003 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oberon
Heh. Uptimes are just another whos-got-a-bigger-dick contest. :p

Try this on for size (all FreeBSD machines):

up 102 days, 23:59, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
up 103 days, 1:22, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00
up 334 days, 10:53, 1 user, load averages: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
up 340 days, 11:14, 1 user, load averages: 0.42, 0.55, 0.58
up 551 days, 7:57, 0 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.06, 0.07

...and I have access to dozens in the 50-100 range. Good old reliable systems. I'm hoping for that last one to hit 2 years. :)

My linux firewall was up for 200 days before I took it down for an upgrade.

I feel that server uptimes are in a diffrent class from workstation uptimes, though, as workstation tend to take a lot more abuse.

RelaX 12-25-2003 01:04 PM

dMSN MSNing and finding out which bastard blocked you. :D
Plus the installation works with a graphical installer and is very newbie friendly, something I LOVE to see in Linux progs.

sailor 12-25-2003 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yotta
My linux firewall was up for 200 days before I took it down for an upgrade.

I feel that server uptimes are in a diffrent class from workstation uptimes, though, as workstation tend to take a lot more abuse.


My current webserver has been up for 120 days so far--Im pretty proud considering it is made from an old box that is literally taped together and has no UPS. I am quite surprised a power failure hasnt brought it down yet. I will have to bring it down sometime in the next few months to upgrade the OS though, so it isnt going to stay up much longer. :(

Ace_of_Lobster 06-17-2004 08:30 PM

If anyone is interested in using Linux for audio, you should check out planet CCRMA

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

which has alot of add-ons for red hat, including special kernels and the like.

Speed_Gibson 06-18-2004 10:27 AM

the GIMP is one of my favourite windows programs
the linux program I use the most currently is kmail; far better than any win32 mail client in my opinion.

oblar 06-18-2004 12:51 PM

I of course have to go for the usuals: xmms, firefox, thunderbird, mplayer, OpenSSH, and you have to love fortune.

but some programs you may have never heard of:

emelfm and emelfm2 -- Awesome file managers! If you havent used it before, go download it and try it out.

as far as games: Nethack!!

vox_rox 12-22-2004 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fracturedmind
Yeah people need to check on that site if the apt-get on freshrpms will work for their distro, I seriously have no idea how to use debian, I only wish :P

There's a better way now, try Ubuntu Linux. I't a new distro based on Debian, much easier to install and work with, and it has access to the entire Debian software repository using apt-get or Synaptic if you prefer, and everything you'll ever need is there. Really.

Peace,

Pierre

bendsley 12-22-2004 08:38 AM

VIM
nano
aptitude (for debian. apt-get sucks)
GAIM
OpenOffice
Firefox
KDE 3.3 (currently in unstable tree)
NMAP
Nessus
Ximian Evolution

Seandq 12-22-2004 08:42 AM

I use FC3.

yum
apt [fc3's version of debian's apt-get]
gaim.
firefox.
OpenOffice
Fluxbox..though I use GNOME 2.8 and KDE 3.3

Localhost 12-22-2004 08:56 AM

vnstat - Best periodical bandwidth tracker that I've found
fluxbox - I love simplicity.
nzbget - Great console based usenet downloader.
naim - Great console based AIM client. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
Nessus - Best vuln tester, IMO.


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