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MP3 Bit Rate: 192kbps vs. 320kpbs
Can anyone please tell me what to listen for so that I can learn what the difference is between 192kbps vs 320kbps.
I've listened to same songs, and really can't tell the difference audibly. Otherwise, 320 is a much larger file and that's about it. |
More than anything, it would depend on your sound system. A low-end or mediocre sound delivery won't reveal much difference.
I'd wait for a response from aberkok. He recently told me he's sold on the difference between mp3s and CDs. |
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Between 192Kbps and 320, though, I can't hear a damn bit of difference. Even with my stupidly expensive noise-canceling headphones. |
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jinn, sound cancelling headphones are expensive because of the cancellation, but generally are just above mid-level in actual audio quality. If you have cans that are <$300 or so, you probably won't be able to tell anyway. Some good Sennheiser's or equivalent and you may. Also, it makes a big difference on the base part of your sound system. $1000 headphones on an iPod isn't going to show much difference, just like $20 headphones on a $5000 sound system won't. It's layers of quality that make the difference.
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I got big into this before I busted my left ear. If you can't hear a difference, don't worry about it. If you think you do hear a difference, either perform an ABX or rip that track to a higher quality. Personally, I rip to lossless (WavPack or FLAC) for long-term storage, and then make low bitrate lossy files (OGG Vorbis or hybrid WavPack) for general playback. "Why such strange file formats?" you ask. I like to make it difficult for people. |
The place I notice differences in bit-rates <i>most</i> is in cymbal washes. There is also a lack of clarity in the bottom end; but it's not as noticeable because my system doesn't really have good bottom end anyway.
The cymbal washes (not the initial hit of the cymbal; but the decay) sound "fuzzy." Also, on the lower bit-rate MP3s (like 128 and lower) there is a definite loss in stereo image quality. It's like the song is in a tunnel or something. I'm guessing that there are phase issues introduced during the compression process ... Also, I DON'T notice any difference (that I'm aware of) on my home system (at 192 and higher). It's just a Yamaha all-in-one home theater package from Best Buy. Where I notice these differences is on my recording system: Soundcards = Presonus Firepod and Aardvark Q10 Amp = Crown D75a Monitors = Tannoy PBM6.5s (if anyone is interested). |
The stock speakers in my eMac don't do anything, but since I upgraded to Bose I can absolutely hear the difference. This is even more true of my B&O headphones.
Cynth, how do you listen to your tunskies? Radio in the car? Stock iPod headphones? Comp speakers? |
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I've never been able to detect a noticeable difference between 192kbps and 320 kbps either, so I'm not the one to ask about that. |
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thanks for all the information, plenty for me to go through here.
I mostly listen via headphones, some Sony earbuds left over from another time and place. It is about time to replace them. The tunes are stored on the ipod. In the office I use Altec Lansing computer speakers. I'd love to have a Hi-Fi, but can't listen to music that loud here. It's a publisher so it is rather quiet here, almost like a library but not quite. As far as wanting to know, I do get the point, but I do not care that much. I'm just trying to be more knowledgable with them. I only value higher quality in some things, not in all. So some TV is higher quality and others isn't. The same would go for audio. |
I was clearing out my closet and found some monitor headphones that were used for screening, logging, and transcripting. I used to take them on long plane rides because of the noise cancelling abilities.
they sound 10 million times better than the little Sony earbuds I was using. I don't think I'll give those up since I'd like to find some good earbuds. These don't roll up into my pocket so well. I have been listening to something in 192 and 320 and the difference is slight. I'd like to say that the 320 is fuller, but I can't discern specifically where they are fuller but there is a difference. I didn't rip this particular one, but I will now with these headphones rip a new CD in 192 and 320 and see if I can't tell the difference there. |
Earbuds are evil little creatures.
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Honestly, doods.... I can't hear the difference... yet.
It is true, however, that I am getting back to CDs, but not because of any sound superiority. It's more the ritual I miss. I just feel like more of a collector than a listener when I add to my digital library. I used to have a very deep connection with my disc collection and each member in it. I'd like to get back to that. Also, listening at the computer (I know I don't have to, but that's what tends to happen), cheapens the experience for me. |
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