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denim · 06-23-2003, 10:32 AM

Holy bleep! According to MacNN's man on the spot:

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# Apple shows off the worlds fastest PC with three things: chip (G5), system, product. The G5 has some amazing properties: it's a 64-bit processor, runs up to 2GHz, and has a 1GHz front-side bus. It offers full SMP ("designed entirely for SMP"). The G5 has a the industry's highest bandwidth using an entirely new architecture. It is massively parallel with a 12 unit core with 2 FPUs and is capable of 16 in-flihgt operations.It uses the world's most advanced chip fabrication by IBM: 130nm process, SOI 8 layer interconnects, 58 million transistors, 300 mm (12-inch wafters. IBM VP says it "costs $3 billion to fab this thing" because they "shrunk the gate length to 6 atomic units."

# Next: System. It offers 8GBps of bandwidth using DDR memory. The G5 processor are connected to the system controller by independent busses. There is no competition for bandwidth because it has 12x. It features a 400Mhz 128-bit DDR Memory (RAM) with 6.5 GBps of bandwidth. Grahis is AGP 8x Pro Graphics with 2GBps of bandwidth (power for Pro Cards) and HyperTransport for the drives, 133MHz PCI-X, FireWire 800/400, USB 2.0, Gigabit Ethernet, Optical Digital Audio (new).

# Now Product. Up to 8 GB of memory. Eveything is on independent buses so there's no bandwidth clogging. The memory is 40x faster. You can transfer an entire DVD in one second if everything was in RAM. It features a Nvidia GeForce 5200 FX Pro chip in the low-end and an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro in the high-end. It offers up to 500GB of storage and a 4x SuperDrive. It has a new case with a more advanced, slightly more boxy enclosure. It is light grey, all-aluminum enclosure, which is very thin. The rear has a mesh backing. It has handles ("straight up" not diagonal). It is quieter than previous generation machines. The front is totally mesh for air circulation (as is the back). There are 4 separate thermal zones (power supply, processor bay, I/O cards, and rotating storage. It has nine different fans, which are independently speed controlled. It is 35dBA at normal use (twice as quiet as the current G4 Macs). Modelsstart at 1.6MHz ($2000, GF FX5200, 256MB of RAM), 1.8GHz (double memory, double disk, $2399) and dual 2.0GHz ($2999, Radeon 9600 Pro).

Sounds like this puppy's gonna generate some heat!

They haven't finished introducing it yet, and I WANT ONE!!!!!

(edit) But wait, there's MORE:

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# Jobs then touted the G5 Power Mac's performance against Dell. The dual 3.0GHz Xeon (533MHz Bus, 512MB RAM) from Dell costs $4000 and isn't as fast. It has the same stuff but slower. All three Power Mac G5 machines are due in August. SPEC int test show that 2GHz G5, the 3GHz P4 (fastest available), and 3.0Ghz Xeon. Using the GCC 3.3 compiler, VeriTest independent test lab showed that the G5 is 10$ slower on integer, but 21% faster on FPU. The dual G5 smoked the P4 and dual Xeon. It is 41% faster on FPU than the dual-Xeon and 3% faster on integer (via SPEC tests). Both single and dual processor tests were shown. Adobe said that Photoshop will be updated when these machines are released.

# Phil Schiller shows bakeoff, showing that G5 is 2.1x faster. It takes 15 minutes to transition code to G5 (just recompiling). The G5 wins in 3D rendering, Mathematica 5 (both matrix and integer calculations--over twice as fast). Mathematica: "The competition isn't PCs anymore. It's high-end Unix workstations, and the G5 is faster than them too." Schiller demos Emagic audio software where 1000 simultaneous voices can be played with 24-bit (high) quality stereo. Then shows 100 EQs, 8 bands each (with stereo) == 1600 bands. The G5 handles it with only 25% usage. Summary: Photoshop is 2.1x faster, Luxology is 2.3x faster, Mathematica is 2.3x faster, and Emagic (no calculation

And even more!

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# Apple and IBM announce 3GHz G5 within next 12 months.

Suck on that, Motorola and Intel!

denim · 06-23-2003, 11:08 AM

These systems sound sweet. Last I looked, a few minutes ago, the Apple store was off-line for updating.

Time to replace my 5-year old G3, I'd say.

Is there a smiley for "mopping up drool"? Picture it here. Gonna have to put some cash together in a few months.

sweeze · 06-23-2003, 11:28 AM

mmmm.... tasty

denim · 06-23-2003, 11:45 AM

Okay, here's an appropriate one:

Flippy · 06-23-2003, 12:01 PM

/me drools.....
If only I could afford one of those

juanvaldes · 06-23-2003, 12:01 PM

Screw the hardware I want panther! Two of my most requested features were added....that and I HAD to buy a system last summer so I can't get any G5 goodness....

denim · 06-23-2003, 12:07 PM

My most recent desktop box is a 5-year old G3. It's time, y'know? I'll concern myself with a new portable some other time.

Looks like the Apple site has been updated.

MacGnG · 06-23-2003, 02:09 PM

coooool

wraithhibn · 06-23-2003, 02:46 PM

I want to see a G5 and Opteron compared. They sound similar in some features. Could be that AMD and Apple both work with IBM.

spcae maggot · 06-23-2003, 06:06 PM

Hehe, I like how they used GCC3.3 for the Intel spec scores.

hulk · 06-23-2003, 07:40 PM

These are great. Just when many people start losing faith in Apple, they go and release these awesome machines. I mean, they're entry-level with up to 2Ghz! And they don't cost $10000 AUD! FUCKING SWEET!

propaganda · 06-23-2003, 08:22 PM

Theres not much that could describe this. It's just awsome.

06-23-2003, 02:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
wraithhibn Dopefish Location: the 'Ville	I want to see a G5 and Opteron compared. They sound similar in some features. Could be that AMD and Apple both work with IBM. __________________ If you won't dress like the Victoria Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

06-23-2003, 07:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	These are great. Just when many people start losing faith in Apple, they go and release these awesome machines. I mean, they're entry-level with up to 2Ghz! And they don't cost $10000 AUD! FUCKING SWEET! __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

06-23-2003, 11:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
denim Banned Location: Massachusetts, USA	These systems sound sweet. Last I looked, a few minutes ago, the Apple store was off-line for updating. Time to replace my 5-year old G3, I'd say. Is there a smiley for "mopping up drool"? Picture it here. Gonna have to put some cash together in a few months.

06-23-2003, 11:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
sweeze Tilted	mmmm.... tasty

06-23-2003, 11:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
denim Banned Location: Massachusetts, USA	Okay, here's an appropriate one:

06-23-2003, 12:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Flippy Banned Location: Greater Vancouver	/me drools..... If only I could afford one of those

06-23-2003, 12:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	Screw the hardware I want panther! Two of my most requested features were added....that and I HAD to buy a system last summer so I can't get any G5 goodness....

06-23-2003, 12:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
denim Banned Location: Massachusetts, USA	My most recent desktop box is a 5-year old G3. It's time, y'know? I'll concern myself with a new portable some other time. Looks like the Apple site has been updated.

06-23-2003, 02:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	coooool

06-23-2003, 06:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
spcae maggot Upright	Hehe, I like how they used GCC3.3 for the Intel spec scores.

06-23-2003, 08:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
propaganda Psycho	Theres not much that could describe this. It's just awsome.