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Old 05-04-2006, 06:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My dvd burner just stops mid burn. Hardware issue?

Hey.
I have a3500+amd athlon 64.1gig ram.7200rpm serial ata.
I have a nero v. 6.3.1.6 ultra edition.
I have 16x dvd burner. came bundled w/the HP I got.

I was ripping some files but it consistently freezes at 45%

I had to force close nero. From there, i could not open my drive. I tried lookin at it under my cmoputer, but it comes up empty for the drive in question. I have to reboot in order to gain control back again.

I've had this issue before burning other files where it continually froze at a set % after trying to burn the same file over.

I could understand if it's hardware since i lose control to my dirve altogether, but for half the files i burn, it works.

Plus it may be a software issue since it's repeatable down to freezing at a % +/- 2%. This is consistent when i try to burn the set group of files after rebooting and using another disc.

Any ideas?
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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have you tried a different set of files to burn?
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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have you tried a different set of files to burn?


yeap. sorry if i wasn't clear.

The thing is,if a set of files freezes it, close out, reboot, drop in a new dvd etc. and when i try burning the same files again, it stops at pretty much the exact same place regarding the burning progress. I can again close out, reboot, and drop in a new dvd, and burn the same batch of data, and itll freeze again yielding a frozen nero burn screen, a non-repsonsive dvd drive, and when going into mycomputer to view the properites of the dvd being burned, it comes up as a blank dvd.

When I said that it happens 25% of the time I meant 25% of all the DIFFERENT data I've burned Has been problematic. It freezes 100% at the same progress spot if i retry a batch of files that freezes the burner ona new dvd.

Hopefully that clears things up.

I still cant fathom how the type of data be it corrupt or not would freeze up the drive. Yet, it repeatably freezes on the same files. BTW, I burn as data, not as music files or anything.

Shrug. I appreciate the help
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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in that different data is it 100% all different data or is it some of the data on the DVD you are burning.

you are really not being very clear.

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The thing is,if a set of files freezes it, close out, reboot, drop in a new dvd etc. and when i try burning the same files again, it stops at pretty much the exact same place regarding the burning progress. I can again close out, reboot, and drop in a new dvd, and burn the same batch of data, and itll freeze again yielding a frozen nero burn screen, a non-repsonsive dvd drive, and when going into mycomputer to view the properites of the dvd being burned, it comes up as a blank dvd.
that's all the same data, I'm assuming there's a single file there that's corrupting it.

Now the same issues with CD burns (which is why I hated burning them in the first place) had buffer underrun errors consistently on various files for me. I'm assuming that DVDs suffer from the same types of problems since I don't always get DVD data burns 100% all the time. I even get some bus overflow errors moving >2Gb files to an external USB2.0 drive.
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Old 05-04-2006, 08:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry, I tend to ramble.

Lets put it this way.
I'm burning 24 episodes of the show.
The first 12 on the DVD came out fine. No freezing mid progress

For episodes 13-24, it freezes at 45% progress. Nero is unresponsive so I have to force close and the drive is non responsive (does not open). I reboot the computer and RETRY with the SAME data (13-24). Again it freezes at exactly 45% progress and freezes up the program as well as the drive. So episodes 13-24 may be what is freezing the drive (or specifically, one of the episodes since the progress stops at the same spot). i dont know. All I can tell you is it's repeatable.


This is one example. Now in the bigger picture, if i burn two seasons each 24 episodes with 12 episodes per dvd, then statistically, 1 out of every 4 dvds has this issue (approx25%) and the data on said problemaic dvds have been re-burned with the same problems yielding repeatability with that set of data.

I hope that's clearer for you. Sorry if it's kind of convoluted.
I appreciate the help
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Old 05-04-2006, 08:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Now the same issues with CD burns (which is why I hated burning them in the first place) had buffer underrun errors consistently on various files for me. I'm assuming that DVDs suffer from the same types of problems since I don't always get DVD data burns 100% all the time. I even get some bus overflow errors moving >2Gb files to an external USB2.0 drive.

I don't believe it's a buffer under run error. If it occurs, doesn't the program typically give you an error message at least? In my case, the progress just stops without any indication anything is wrong. I give it 10 minutes without any progress so I'm forced to force close since the cancel button does nothing.

Plus, I'm not doing anything intensive as I burn and the computer is relatively fast. If I'm correct, buffer underrun is just storing the data being burned in a cache in case the processing power is diverted elsewhere to prevent skipping of data (like in a discplayer), right?
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Old 05-04-2006, 08:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Some if not all burners will lock them selves when they burn, if the program that is controlling them crashes, it will stay locked. Power down, power back up and you'll be fine, you may want to try burning at a slower speed and see if that helps.

second is this an encrypted DVD, you may need to unencrypted it first.
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Old 05-04-2006, 08:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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try some diffrent software other then nero. nero causes one hell of a nasty hard crash on my system. it may have been good at one point but those days have passed nero just isnt what it used to be. when it crashes on me i cant open my dvd drive or anything untill i reboot.
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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so you are trying to burn 13-24 episodes on the disc, if you were to burn say another 4Gb of different data, other movies, music etc. does your it hang?

you keep using the same things in the process and wonder why it doesn't work. if you had changed data completely it still hangs everytime at 45% then you've eliminated the corruptuble data set.

I'm also not saying that it's exactly a buffer underrun error, but some sort of error invovling data moving across, which is why I used my USB2.0 external drive as an example. I move <2.0Gb files on it and it's not a problem. I move some >2.0Gb files and it's not a problem, but some files >2.5Gb give it problems when I try to copy more than 3 of them at one time.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Again, I probably wasn't clear.

Like the example I gave, I used 4 sets of different data. In thatcase, 2 seasons were burned. each season had 24 episodes. so therefore, since each dvd held 12 episodes, there were four different batches of data that would similarly need 4 dvds.

In the example, everything burned fine except for lets say episdoes 1-24 on season 1. Now the 45% refers to the burn PROGRESS that said faulty episode set (1-24 season1) makes. Meaning it burned only 45% of the data. Now when i reboot and stick in a new dvd and tryto burn the same faulty episode set (1-24) same exact problem.

I'll try with a different program, though. I'll letyou guys know the results. Thanks
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Old 05-16-2006, 07:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am currently having similar problems with my burning, but I believe it can be solved by slowing down the burn speed.. Im experimenting a couple of things right now =S

Lowering the burn speed, has been working best so far.
Also Id advice updating everything in relation to the burner (programs, firmware..)
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