thinning the herd - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Dilbert1234567 · 10-29-2003, 12:17 PM

I just ran a search for members that have less then one post, and there are 17,100 of them

17,100 !!!!!!! Holy shit! that’s a lot

I don’t know if you realized that Halx but there are a lot of them. Maybe we should thin them out. I’m sure that maybe 100 or so are brand new and are going to post something soon, but 17,100 ways to many lurkers and one timers

Further only 9500 members have posted.

On the flip side there are 300 members that have more then 500 post

And 14 that have over 2000 post (wow)

Basically what I am saying is we should try to thin the herd, its got to be cluttering the server and no one likes a lurker, we should all participate in the forum.

oldtimer · 10-29-2003, 12:39 PM

Good points, Dilbert. And I previously started a thread way back about this which resulted in Halx's axe dropping and taking out all the "inactive" users. Which I believe was about 407 pages of "no-posters" and that meant all listed users had "0" posts. That was bad. If anyone cares to do the math on that depending on how many users are shown on a members search page by default. Then you would probably get an accurate count of how many members did NOTHING.

But Halx is always aware of the situation and he urges everyone to participate. So don't go all awol (in the sense of jumping the gun and going crazy) and preach about how many lurkers there are. We are aware. And eventually they will lose their privileges.

Halx · 10-29-2003, 12:46 PM

ok what's the point?

I kill their accounts, then they either reregister or complain to me.

What's the point?

Stare At The Sun · 10-29-2003, 02:46 PM

*shrugs* It pisses me off how many lurkers there are here, no reason for them to be here if they wont be active, but what can you do....i still like my 1337 idea:

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=14928

Basically the same system livejournal.com uses...sure it would cut off potential new members, but it might really cut down on other stuff, but i dont know how much bandwidth and such those lurkers use, so its up to you guys! This is just my .02..

Lasereth · 10-29-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Halx
ok what's the point?

I kill their accounts, then they either reregister or complain to me.

What's the point?

Kill the accounts anyway. It'll take months to get that many back again, and that's months of faster service and less bandwidth taken up. Simply delete the accounts that have no posts every once in a while. That's what I'd do, anyway. Unless it takes a lot of time to delete those accounts...I imagine there's a quick way to do it, though. If you delete the accounts enough, people that don't contribute will stop coming back. On top of that, half of those that have 0 posts don't even LOOK at TFP. There's no reason for them to be here.

-Lasereth

Halx · 10-29-2003, 04:28 PM

So I'm supposed to endure the endless complaining for.. what?

Dilbert1234567 · 10-30-2003, 12:48 AM

what i mean is that there are not 17,000 lurkers, most of them created an account and never used it. so why dont we clear them all out and see who rejoins.

also is there a way to set up a script that would remove accounts after 15 days if they did not respond and after 1 month if they do not start there own thread?

oldtimer · 10-30-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Dilbert1234567
what i mean is that there are not 17,000 lurkers, most of them created an account and never used it. so why dont we clear them all out and see who rejoins.

also is there a way to set up a script that would remove accounts after 15 days if they did not respond and after 1 month if they do not start there own thread?

What? For not visiting or starting a thread? Ever heard of the words vacation, break, work, and free time? People have a life outside of the internet. 2 weeks and a day are not fair enough to base account termination. Especially thread forming! A lot of times there is no worthy subject to start a thread about. Sometimes you feel that the board is slow and there are no new interesting topics so you take a break. Sometimes you get fed up with internet and the say the hell with it. Or suddenly get sports fever and religiously play that sport with your buds.

There's a life outside the internet. Don't punish us for enjoying it.

Dilbert1234567 · 10-30-2003, 11:17 PM

ok maybe im being to strict, but i have had no problem making 500 post since the board was put back up, but i dont see that it would be that hard to make a post. if you've already posted i dont think they shoudl be removed, just the ones who have never posted. we have 17,000 members that have neve posted once. i think everyone should participate, not just watch in the back ground.

oldtimer · 10-31-2003, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Halx
ok what's the point?

I kill their accounts, then they either reregister or complain to me.

What's the point?

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Originally posted by Halx
So I'm supposed to endure the endless complaining for.. what?

He makes a strong point. They will just re-register.

jimk · 10-31-2003, 11:15 AM

isn't there a way to automatically delete anyone who hasn't logged on in 2,3,? months? that would get rid of all those who started an account & never came back. and if they have an account without logging in for x number of months, they can just start a new account.

Lasereth · 11-01-2003, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Halx
So I'm supposed to endure the endless complaining for.. what?

Bandwidth for a few months? I'm just trying to give suggestions. I still don't see how 17,000 people would re-register. Everytime you axed them it would thin out more and more that are too lazy to come back. So what if they argue? They don't have an argument. They don't even have room to complain. I know that it must be time consuming, but I can't stand it when I go to the member pages and see 1 person per page that has had more than 1 post. Deleting those accounts does not stop lurking or registered no-shows, but it does improve the situation temporarily and sometimes permanently.

-Lasereth

oldtimer · 11-01-2003, 10:57 PM

I understand Hal's situation completely. Think about it. 17,000 pissed-off lurkers ready to knock on his "preferred" email address, by pm, ICQ handle, AIM handle, MSN Messenger handle, and Yahoo IM handle. They're worse than spam or automated bots, they're lurkers...

Dilbert1234567 · 11-08-2003, 02:52 PM

i realy dont think ther are 17,000 people that are willing to complain i think that there are around 1000-2000 lurkers the other 15,000 are just one timers, who joined and have not come back. i think we should ax them every 6 months or so to clean the ranks. i dont mean ban them, but if they are serius about being a part of this community they should partake in it.

Lasereth · 11-10-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Dilbert1234567
i realy dont think ther are 17,000 people that are willing to complain i think that there are around 1000-2000 lurkers the other 15,000 are just one timers, who joined and have not come back. i think we should ax them every 6 months or so to clean the ranks. i dont mean ban them, but if they are serius about being a part of this community they should partake in it.

That's exactly what I said above. I just don't think that 17,000 of them can be lurkers. I bet more than half got here through Fark and left after making an account. Where's the harm in axing 17,000 people if only 2,000 actually come here? I say get rid of them. You can't stop lurking completely, but you can make TFP temporarily faster.

-Lasereth

Dilbert1234567 · 11-12-2003, 12:00 AM

i come through fark everytime, but im also one of the top posters (650)

Halx · 11-12-2003, 01:07 AM

Is the TFP not loading fast enough? The server is cruising, guys. Any lag you may experience is probably 99% ping time. The server IS in Finland.

SecretMethod70 · 11-12-2003, 01:55 AM

*shrug* TFP seems to load just fine for me here in Chicago. And, you guys are right, maybe 15,000 or even 16,000 of the 17,000 are not lurkers. But why should Hal have to field one THOUSAND complaining e-mails?

I understand your motivation - really, I do - but it's just not worth the effort. Not when things are going just fine right now.

Batman976 · 11-12-2003, 01:54 PM

Well, sort of on topic...

When I re-registered after ver. 3 (although admittedly I didn't post too often back then) I was a little bummed out to find my old name, Batman, was already taken. It bums me out even more to see that that user only has 16 posts, all of which where in the Titty Board or Testing Board, and he hasn't posted since July. On top of all that, when I searched his posts, the quality of them was a little sub-par.

Cutting back on inactive users might allow me to move in on the username I always wanted. Of course I can see your side of the arguement too, and can easily live with this name too.

Dilbert1234567 · 11-15-2003, 01:29 AM

originaly my usual name was taken by a null poster, i was bummed but i have taken this name and im happy now, i just think that there are so many people that are registerd and dont give to the comunity. further i would think it is a big draw on your hard drives, 17000 null posters probubly 15000 have probubly not logged on in 3 months even if you could compress the the information stored on your server to 256k per thats nearly 4 gigs of stuff. that is a shit load of space.

if you dont want to touch it Halx thats your choice to make. i respect your opinion as the creator and you know how to run a web site. im just trying to bring the number of accounts that are inactive to light.

Dwarf020 · 12-06-2003, 04:05 PM

I agree w/halx. nuking all the lurkers accounts wouldnt work because they'd all reregister anyway. On top of that, not every single lurker stays that way anyway. I was basicly doing nothing but lurking till yesterday, but now i'm posting (lol, it's a success story for the tfp).

So basicly it's impossible to keep all the lurkers away (unless you banned IP's) and it's not a good idea anway.

how many of you started out doing nothing but lurking.

poof · 12-06-2003, 06:45 PM

Geeezus. I think Halx has a handle on what is happening on <b>his</b> website. Let it go, it is his deal to take care of and I think he has more experience in this area.

Now, continue offering worthy content, let Halx handle the show. I often get good info at more than one "tilted" interest.

3434 · 12-09-2003, 02:41 PM

where are the boobs you are talking about

ubertuber · 12-09-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by 3434
where are the boobs you are talking about

this is awesome!

cyndykane · 12-10-2003, 05:22 PM

Give Halx a break here guys. Since there doesn't seem to be a problem with bandwidth....who cares how many lurkers there are. No point in trying to fix someting that doesn't appear to be a problem. A lot of posts I've seen are worthless anyways, including a lot of mine! Perhaps even this one....

gonadman · 12-11-2003, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Lasereth
Where's the harm in axing 17,000 people if only 2,000 actually come here? I say get rid of them. You can't stop lurking completely, but you can make TFP temporarily faster.

Uh, I'm not much of a computer whiz, but if only 2000 out of the 17000 actually come here, than we're not saving huge amounts of bandwith by axing them, right?

Crack · 12-21-2003, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by 3434
where are the boobs you are talking about

Can't we just axe this guy...?

10-29-2003, 12:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	thinning the herd I just ran a search for members that have less then one post, and there are 17,100 of them 17,100 !!!!!!! Holy shit! that’s a lot I don’t know if you realized that Halx but there are a lot of them. Maybe we should thin them out. I’m sure that maybe 100 or so are brand new and are going to post something soon, but 17,100 ways to many lurkers and one timers Further only 9500 members have posted. On the flip side there are 300 members that have more then 500 post And 14 that have over 2000 post (wow) Basically what I am saying is we should try to thin the herd, its got to be cluttering the server and no one likes a lurker, we should all participate in the forum. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen Last edited by Dilbert1234567; 10-30-2003 at 12:47 AM..

10-29-2003, 12:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
oldtimer Addict	Good points, Dilbert. And I previously started a thread way back about this which resulted in Halx's axe dropping and taking out all the "inactive" users. Which I believe was about 407 pages of "no-posters" and that meant all listed users had "0" posts. That was bad. If anyone cares to do the math on that depending on how many users are shown on a members search page by default. Then you would probably get an accurate count of how many members did NOTHING. But Halx is always aware of the situation and he urges everyone to participate. So don't go all awol (in the sense of jumping the gun and going crazy) and preach about how many lurkers there are. We are aware. And eventually they will lose their privileges. __________________ Slowly but surely getting over the loss of TFP v. 3.0. Where the hell am I?.... Showering once a month does not make you a better person. "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Martin Luther King, Jr.

10-29-2003, 12:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	ok what's the point? I kill their accounts, then they either reregister or complain to me. What's the point? __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

10-29-2003, 04:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	So I'm supposed to endure the endless complaining for.. what? __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

10-30-2003, 12:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	what i mean is that there are not 17,000 lurkers, most of them created an account and never used it. so why dont we clear them all out and see who rejoins. also is there a way to set up a script that would remove accounts after 15 days if they did not respond and after 1 month if they do not start there own thread? __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

10-29-2003, 02:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	shrugs It pisses me off how many lurkers there are here, no reason for them to be here if they wont be active, but what can you do....i still like my 1337 idea: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=14928 Basically the same system livejournal.com uses...sure it would cut off potential new members, but it might really cut down on other stuff, but i dont know how much bandwidth and such those lurkers use, so its up to you guys! This is just my .02..

10-30-2003, 11:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	ok maybe im being to strict, but i have had no problem making 500 post since the board was put back up, but i dont see that it would be that hard to make a post. if you've already posted i dont think they shoudl be removed, just the ones who have never posted. we have 17,000 members that have neve posted once. i think everyone should participate, not just watch in the back ground. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

10-31-2003, 11:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
jimk Addict Location: Chicago	isn't there a way to automatically delete anyone who hasn't logged on in 2,3,? months? that would get rid of all those who started an account & never came back. and if they have an account without logging in for x number of months, they can just start a new account. __________________ raw power is a guaranteed o.d. raw power is a laughin' at you & me -iggy

11-01-2003, 10:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
oldtimer Addict	I understand Hal's situation completely. Think about it. 17,000 pissed-off lurkers ready to knock on his "preferred" email address, by pm, ICQ handle, AIM handle, MSN Messenger handle, and Yahoo IM handle. They're worse than spam or automated bots, they're lurkers... __________________ Slowly but surely getting over the loss of TFP v. 3.0. Where the hell am I?.... Showering once a month does not make you a better person. "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Martin Luther King, Jr.

11-08-2003, 02:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	i realy dont think ther are 17,000 people that are willing to complain i think that there are around 1000-2000 lurkers the other 15,000 are just one timers, who joined and have not come back. i think we should ax them every 6 months or so to clean the ranks. i dont mean ban them, but if they are serius about being a part of this community they should partake in it. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

11-12-2003, 12:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	i come through fark everytime, but im also one of the top posters (650) __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

11-12-2003, 01:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Is the TFP not loading fast enough? The server is cruising, guys. Any lag you may experience is probably 99% ping time. The server IS in Finland. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

11-12-2003, 01:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	shrug TFP seems to load just fine for me here in Chicago. And, you guys are right, maybe 15,000 or even 16,000 of the 17,000 are not lurkers. But why should Hal have to field one THOUSAND complaining e-mails? I understand your motivation - really, I do - but it's just not worth the effort. Not when things are going just fine right now. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

11-12-2003, 01:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	Well, sort of on topic... When I re-registered after ver. 3 (although admittedly I didn't post too often back then) I was a little bummed out to find my old name, Batman, was already taken. It bums me out even more to see that that user only has 16 posts, all of which where in the Titty Board or Testing Board, and he hasn't posted since July. On top of all that, when I searched his posts, the quality of them was a little sub-par. Cutting back on inactive users might allow me to move in on the username I always wanted. Of course I can see your side of the arguement too, and can easily live with this name too. __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

11-15-2003, 01:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	originaly my usual name was taken by a null poster, i was bummed but i have taken this name and im happy now, i just think that there are so many people that are registerd and dont give to the comunity. further i would think it is a big draw on your hard drives, 17000 null posters probubly 15000 have probubly not logged on in 3 months even if you could compress the the information stored on your server to 256k per thats nearly 4 gigs of stuff. that is a shit load of space. if you dont want to touch it Halx thats your choice to make. i respect your opinion as the creator and you know how to run a web site. im just trying to bring the number of accounts that are inactive to light. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

12-06-2003, 04:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
Dwarf020 Tilted	lurkers dont go away just because you get rid of their accounts I agree w/halx. nuking all the lurkers accounts wouldnt work because they'd all reregister anyway. On top of that, not every single lurker stays that way anyway. I was basicly doing nothing but lurking till yesterday, but now i'm posting (lol, it's a success story for the tfp). So basicly it's impossible to keep all the lurkers away (unless you banned IP's) and it's not a good idea anway. how many of you started out doing nothing but lurking.

12-06-2003, 06:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
poof Psycho	Geeezus. I think Halx has a handle on what is happening on <b>his</b> website. Let it go, it is his deal to take care of and I think he has more experience in this area. Now, continue offering worthy content, let Halx handle the show. I often get good info at more than one "tilted" interest.

12-09-2003, 02:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
3434 Upright	i want to see boobs where are the boobs you are talking about

12-10-2003, 05:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
cyndykane Crazy	Give Halx a break here guys. Since there doesn't seem to be a problem with bandwidth....who cares how many lurkers there are. No point in trying to fix someting that doesn't appear to be a problem. A lot of posts I've seen are worthless anyways, including a lot of mine! Perhaps even this one.... __________________ Sweet Cyn