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cementor · 11-19-2005, 02:09 PM

I have watched a lot of football over the years and have felt a great deal of the NFL was fixed, but College football seemed above all that until today. I'm actually Texas Tech fan when they aren't playing OU, but the fix was definitely in today. Touchdowns with recievers obviously out of bounds, phantom roughing the passer calls to keep drives alive, a fourth down simultaneous posession call which was correct, but both players laying a yard short of the first down and then a phantom first down GIVEN and the ball placed at the 23 (it still wasn't a first down where they finally spotted the ball!). The final straw is a running back with his hips clearly on the ground and this shoulder on the ground reaching over the line for a "touchdown" to win the game as time expired. 2 officials looked at each other for a call for a couple of seconds and then made the call. The review shows the back on his ass as well. Expect an apology from the Big 12 this week in public. There are some officials who definitely need to have made some big money as they will likely be suspended for the remainder of the season. EVERY scoring drive for Tech had an extremely questionable MAJOR penalty call to keep the drive going.

As for the other thumbs down FSN gets a big one for not showing replays on the roughing or the spot on the simultaneous posession play. The two views they showed on the final td were less thatn sparkling, but ESPN's was pretty definitive.

What a JOKE!!!

You can't even expect impartiality in the college game.

bond007 · 11-23-2005, 04:14 PM

yes, the Sooners got hosed. yes, the quality of FSN broadcasts is waaaaayy below that of ESPN. but there will be no apology (at least publicly) in regards to the officiating. the circular logic of why the Big 12 won't apologize or criticize the officials' call on the final play of the game... is because "there was no indisputable video evidence to overturn the call". what goes unmentioned is that the reason for the lack of video evidence is because the FSN production sucks!

irateplatypus · 11-24-2005, 08:12 AM

hmm... if you ask me, the footage provided was indisputable.

if they had run two feeds, one of the goal-line profile and the other of head-on goalpoast cam, simultaneaously they'd see that...

1) the running back made two distinct efforts to reach the ball over the goal line, and that only the second effort did so (from the goal-line cam

2) the running back was quite obviously down before the second effort was made (easily discernible from the goal-post cam)

run those frame by frame next to eachother with each one time-stamped to coincide exactly and it'll be very clear that the wrong call was made.

yup, they got hosed. it's tough to lose a season-altering game due to an officials poor call. even though the big12 doesn't publicly broadcast the poor review, rest assured that all those efforts and more are going on behind the scenes.

cementor · 11-24-2005, 05:21 PM

Oh well I think as a consolation prize a trip to SanDiego might be nice, and truthfully Dallas in January is not much of a reward, but the 3 MM$ payday doesn't suck. Actually San Antonio is preferable to Dallas from a "fun trip" standpoint. It i troublesome that the "system" in place for just such matters fails anyway.

11-19-2005, 02:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
cementor Crazy Location: Denver	SOONER GET HOSED!! I have watched a lot of football over the years and have felt a great deal of the NFL was fixed, but College football seemed above all that until today. I'm actually Texas Tech fan when they aren't playing OU, but the fix was definitely in today. Touchdowns with recievers obviously out of bounds, phantom roughing the passer calls to keep drives alive, a fourth down simultaneous posession call which was correct, but both players laying a yard short of the first down and then a phantom first down GIVEN and the ball placed at the 23 (it still wasn't a first down where they finally spotted the ball!). The final straw is a running back with his hips clearly on the ground and this shoulder on the ground reaching over the line for a "touchdown" to win the game as time expired. 2 officials looked at each other for a call for a couple of seconds and then made the call. The review shows the back on his ass as well. Expect an apology from the Big 12 this week in public. There are some officials who definitely need to have made some big money as they will likely be suspended for the remainder of the season. EVERY scoring drive for Tech had an extremely questionable MAJOR penalty call to keep the drive going. As for the other thumbs down FSN gets a big one for not showing replays on the roughing or the spot on the simultaneous posession play. The two views they showed on the final td were less thatn sparkling, but ESPN's was pretty definitive. What a JOKE!!! You can't even expect impartiality in the college game. __________________ Cementor If I was any better I'd have to be twins! Last edited by cementor; 11-19-2005 at 02:14 PM..

11-24-2005, 08:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	hmm... if you ask me, the footage provided was indisputable. if they had run two feeds, one of the goal-line profile and the other of head-on goalpoast cam, simultaneaously they'd see that... 1) the running back made two distinct efforts to reach the ball over the goal line, and that only the second effort did so (from the goal-line cam 2) the running back was quite obviously down before the second effort was made (easily discernible from the goal-post cam) run those frame by frame next to eachother with each one time-stamped to coincide exactly and it'll be very clear that the wrong call was made. yup, they got hosed. it's tough to lose a season-altering game due to an officials poor call. even though the big12 doesn't publicly broadcast the poor review, rest assured that all those efforts and more are going on behind the scenes. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

11-24-2005, 05:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
cementor Crazy Location: Denver	Oh well I think as a consolation prize a trip to SanDiego might be nice, and truthfully Dallas in January is not much of a reward, but the 3 MM$ payday doesn't suck. Actually San Antonio is preferable to Dallas from a "fun trip" standpoint. It i troublesome that the "system" in place for just such matters fails anyway. __________________ Cementor If I was any better I'd have to be twins!

11-23-2005, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
bond007 Junkie Location: too far from Texas	yes, the Sooners got hosed. yes, the quality of FSN broadcasts is waaaaayy below that of ESPN. but there will be no apology (at least publicly) in regards to the officiating. the circular logic of why the Big 12 won't apologize or criticize the officials' call on the final play of the game... is because "there was no indisputable video evidence to overturn the call". what goes unmentioned is that the reason for the lack of video evidence is because the FSN production sucks!