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Old 08-19-2005, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Randy Moss & Pot

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

"receiver Randy Moss admits he has used marijuana since entering the NFL seven years ago and still smokes it ``every blue moon.'......"
"...........then pressed whether he still smokes marijuana, the star receiver with the checkered past said: ``I might. I might have fun. And, you know, hopefully ... I won't get into any trouble by the NFL by saying that, you know. I have had fun throughout my years and, you know, predominantly in the offseason."

What a dumbass....oohhhh but then at this point in the interview he must have realized that hes a role model to millions of kids...

"`But, you know, I don't want any kids, you know, watching this taking a lesson from me as far as 'Well, Randy Moss used it so I'm going to use it.' I don't want that to get across. "


seriously congrats randy on once again saying something stupid

you know i really dont have a problem with him smoking pot but seriously are you that stupid to tell the press... especially since whats happened to ricky williams and ontario smith...

i also love that he thinks that the 2005 OAKLAND RAIDERS OFFENCE is the best offence hes had since hes been in the league...apartetly better than the 1998 vikings....wow

i can understand the joey porter and moss as recivers but come on....kerrry collins and lamont jordan and the 2 other key pieces on the offence...what a joke

randy has smoked himself retarded

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Old 08-19-2005, 05:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Lets see. I work for an employer who can take millions of dollars from me for using drugs. I use drugs but haven't been busted yet. I know, I'll do an interview and admit I have and still do use banned drugs. What a friggin idiot. I won't be surprised to see him miss at least a few games this year to suspension.
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What are they going to suspend him for? They don't have any proof that he actually did smoke the reefer unless he fails a drug test. Furthermore, i fail to see why smoking dope is such a big deal in a sport where you can't get by professionally without taking all types of questionable supplements that very well may be more harmful in the long run than smoking weed.
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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like i said im not that upset about him smoking it,,,, its hes not even thinking at all during this interview

Moss is a role model/Favorite athlete to millions of kids....i really dont think thats the view that he wants kids to have of him....

the only sever backlash i see about this is that he might get some serious heat from the league and also anything that he has a sponsership with....
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think it's good that america knows that randy moss smokes weed. Maybe now it will become glaringly obvious that smoking weed does not by itself send a person down the path of reckless self destruction. Guess what everybody, randy moss can smoke weed occasionally and still perform as one of the greatest athletes of his generation. I agree that he probably will suffer some backlash from the league and various self righteous blow-hards in the media, but i also think it is amusing, and that perhaps moss might find it amusing as well. On the one hand you get the media reporting on moss everytime he takes a shit, and on the other you have the media complaining about how he's such a distraction. They're clearly either idiots or feigning idiocy as an attempt to pretend that they aren't the cause of moss' distractability. I would also question the intelligence of all the fans who buy into all this bullshit that is sold alongside football but is in reality fundamentally peripheral to the actual game of football.

If babe ruth were alive today all we'd hear about was how much of an alcoholic he is and how an entire generation of young baseball fans are going to be ruined, positively ruined, because he is such a poor role model.
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yea i dont think its that big a deal, unless he does it during the season. I mean if he does it off season who cares except his team, but moss seems to have the will to stay physically in shape, and hes gettin ready to own it up in raider nation
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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smoking doesnt automatically render some one out of shape and lazy.
Daryl Strawberry and shawn kemp both did cocaine, it doesnt mean just because they did it, all the kids who enjoy watching them play went and did it.
It was stupid to tell the press he smokes on occasion, but only because hes going to be bashed all over.
It was good that he admitted it as well. for the reasons filtherton listed.
who wants to make a countdown until the stupid ass propagandasts make a comercial about a football player smoking weed and then going and freaking out on the field and trying to kill people?
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just don't care.

He smokes pot. As long as he's not doing it on the field, I couldn't care less. To me, he's a man to be admired on the field. As long as he keeps his shit together on the grid iron, I don't give a flying fart what he does in his 'free' time.

Let me tell you something, filtherton is right on the money on this one. I think smart kids and smart fans of the game realize that it is the athlete's actions on the field and not all the shit that happens away from the game that is important. I mean, emulate the man's desire, his drive to play hard and his determination to win, not the money, not the power and certainly not the antics away from the game.

It's just some more "story that isn't really a story" shit from the hypocritcal and self-righteous sports media blowhards that delight in writing stuff like this. I find it a bit ironic that despite all the media attention this guy gets, despite all the soap-opera shit we all heard about surrounding his departure from Minnesota, despite all the prophecy from those sportswriters in the know about how outrageous Randy Moss would be in a Raider uniform, despite all the speculation that Moss was going to bring his poison from Minnesota to sunny California there's been nothing...nothing coming from the Raider Nation but good things. He seems to be fitting in just fine and doing a helluva job according to his new teammates.

If the NFL want to punish the guy, punish him for the crime when he gets caught, don't hang him on some off the cuff remark made to a reporter. As far as I'm concerned, he seems to be doing his job, so, I don't care too much what he does when he's not in uniform. To be perfectly honest, I applaud his honesty. At least he didn't lie about it and prove himself the hypocrite unlike some other sports figures we've heard about lately...*cough Palmiero cough*
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Here's the problem guth and flitherton, not all kids are smart. We can't assume kids will make a smart decision and see through what he's saying. Kids are impressionable, hell, people are impressionable.
Someone tells a 14 year old that smoking pot's not good for you, not a good idea, etc., they say, "well Randy Moss does it, and he's in the NFL."
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What are they going to suspend him for? They don't have any proof that he actually did smoke the reefer unless he fails a drug test. Furthermore, i fail to see why smoking dope is such a big deal in a sport where you can't get by professionally without taking all types of questionable supplements that very well may be more harmful in the long run than smoking weed.

How much more proof do you need than someone admitting on the record that they did something. I couldn't care less that he smokes pot. I just think it was incredibly stupid of him to volunteer that information.
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Old 08-20-2005, 09:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Here's the problem guth and flitherton, not all kids are smart. We can't assume kids will make a smart decision and see through what he's saying. Kids are impressionable, hell, people are impressionable.
Someone tells a 14 year old that smoking pot's not good for you, not a good idea, etc., they say, "well Randy Moss does it, and he's in the NFL."
First of all, when the kid starts putting up Moss-like numbers, then maybe he gets carte blanche. Until then maybe it's better to "just say no."

Secondly, doesn't that kind of prove filtherton's point? Moss does what he does AND smokes pot?
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Here's the problem guth and flitherton, not all kids are smart. We can't assume kids will make a smart decision and see through what he's saying. Kids are impressionable, hell, people are impressionable.
Someone tells a 14 year old that smoking pot's not good for you, not a good idea, etc., they say, "well Randy Moss does it, and he's in the NFL."
I would argue that it's a good thing, because now people everywhere have one more thing to point to to counter the often misleading propoganda that comes out of most law enforcement agencies concerning marijuana. Marijuana is no worse than alcohol, do you think we'd even be talking about this if moss had admitted to drinking occasionally?

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How much more proof do you need than someone admitting on the record that they did something. I couldn't care less that he smokes pot. I just think it was incredibly stupid of him to volunteer that information.
He wasn't under oath. All he would have to do is claim that the reporter misquoted or misinterpreted what he said. Just because i said i did something doesn't mean i actually did do it, and you'd be hard-pressed to prove me guilty on that bit of evidence alone. If he fails a drug test, well then, that's a different story altogether.
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Old 08-20-2005, 02:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Here's the problem guth and flitherton, not all kids are smart. We can't assume kids will make a smart decision and see through what he's saying. Kids are impressionable, hell, people are impressionable.
Someone tells a 14 year old that smoking pot's not good for you, not a good idea, etc., they say, "well Randy Moss does it, and he's in the NFL."
I'm sorry but do you really expect all role models to be clean? Free of bad experience in the past?

Since when do football players are expected to be a role model? Although Moss did admited that he is a role model but it seems that he doesn't give a squat about it. Are there guidelines for role models? What they're expected to do, to say, etc?

Kids are impressionable but they're not always dumb. I was a impressionable kid, my dad was a role model to me but he was the kind of guy who drank alot and smoked alot too. Did that rub off on me? No, I smoke weed but not that often, I barely drink a can of beer or two every week and I think I turned out pretty good considering.

For those kids that says "Well, he does it too and he's the president of United States right now" is the kind of kid that would use any excuse to be able to do anything they want. I didn't start smoking pot because some football player does it too. It was my choice and it's the kid's choice if they choose to do drug, not the role model's choice.
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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In a way, it's amusing. Moss is risking literally millions of dollars for something as petty as weed. It doesn't take positive tests to be banned under the NFL drug policy if you've had a previous infraction, which I'm not sure Moss has. The first offense isn't released to the public, if I recall correctly. Doing something dumb, i.e. getting caught with a "Whizzanator" like Ontario Smith, can be enough to qualify as a drug offense.

Whether alcohol is better or worse than weed is debatable, but is ultimately irrelevent. There would be severe legal ramifications if the NFL did not test for illegal drugs. The NFL, as well as the other major sport leagues, survive as a virtual monopoly. If they wanted to start ignoring drug tests, Congress would step in pretty fast and rectify that situation. They threatened to install independent testing for the MLB.

Ultimately, is weed a negative for NFL players? Shit, it can't be worse than popping anti-inflamatories and painkillers every other day, or substaining violent collisions twenty times a game, but it isn't about the fairness of the drug policy. It's about Moss being a retard and the NFL doing what they have to do.
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The use of marijuana is done throughout all sports, it's hardly a secret, just the players who do use it normally keep to themselves because responsible use can be extremely easy to hide from others.

This reminds me of many years ago when Darryl Kile passed. They found marijuana in his hotel room and reporters that brought up the subject to other players would comment saying things similar to this, "It's not unheard of, many guys in major sports do it just because it's the only drug we can do. No guy wants to go play the big game with a hangover."

Throughout the time I've known who Randy Moss was I've thought of him as a jackass, a worthless human being, and a sad waste of talent. But over the past few years I've grown to have some respect for him. When he gave up on plays, he started changing his ways. The play that sticks in my mind is the play where the game is almost over, the Vikings need a touchdown. Randy catches the ball downfield and is being tackled by two defenders, he proceeds to lateral to (I believe) Moe Williams for one of the most alert plays I have seen in years in the NFL.

Randy Moss is not a stupid human being, he knew what he was doing when he made the statement, and he knew the risks, for him to be willing to say that and make a stand while still being at the top of his game physically, that gains some more respect from myself.
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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As I heard someone say, he's a twentysomething guy with plenty of free time and plenty of cash.

There are a lot of people who likely would be doing the same things if they were in that situation, and many who are there that are doing them.
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