djtestudo

At least there's one thing we can ALL agree on...



Tell me that isn't extraordinarally creepy.

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"Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen."
--Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

pan6467

That is just damn scary... get a room boys.

Ah it was so nice to have 1 day this season I could talk smack .... now back to rooting for my 2 Ohio teams that will head nowhere.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

paddyjoe

Whataya talkin about....Palookaville is a destination...................

pan6467

Hmmmm which one should we get ready for tomorrow??????

12-8 with 7 runs in the last 2 innings..... a Grand salami off Foulke and a 1-2-3 pitch you're out 9th........

7-0 3 hit shutout......

Cleveland Rocks and is owning the BoSux in their own house.

too bad we don't play each other more this could make for a truly great rivalry.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

dylanmarsh

YAAAAWWWWNNNN!!!

edit: and yes, something needs to give with Foulke. Either a fake trip to the DL or the Sox need to explore some the trade options for bullpen help.

CrispyTheClown

I used to be a huge Indians fan in the days of Thome, Vizquel, Colon and Ramirez but have strayed away some due to alot of work in the summer time. It's good to see them get back in the swing of things.

Hafner belted the Tigers to help them go to a 20-7 record their past 27. If they can keep it up, which I still think they might be a year and a pitcher a way, they could sneak into the wildcard. Don't think there is a chance in hell of getting caught up to the white sox.

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Weather forecast for tonight: dark.

pan6467

Since Bosux's sweep

2 of 3 from Cincy

2 of 3 from Bosux

3 of 4 from the O birds (who are free falling)

2 of 2 ( with 2 to go) from Det.

9 for 12 witha a 9 game win strek before that

18 for 21 that 6/7 that's a win%age of .8571

Granted they can't keep that up but fuck that's a great way to go into the All Star break......

Esp. if they sweep Det. and even taking 1 of 3 from the weak Yankees this weekend makes it 21/26 a win%age of .8076

But I'd love to see them sweep NY and go into the break with a 23/26 record...... .8846...... let's see anyone else (except maybe freaking Chisux) top that this season. Course with 81 games left and if they could maintain that win % throughout the rest of the year they'd win 72 of their last 81 games.....lol 72-9 for the second half......impossible, noone can do that.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

dylanmarsh

Wow. Keep those drugs away from me. I like staying in touch with reality.

Glory's Sun

speaking of reality...


can we PLEASE do something with suck ass Foulke now?? Damn.. wtf is up with him? He must be gettin some of that pussy that makes you weak

dylanmarsh

Yea, I fully expect Theo to do something big before the deadline. Everyone is talking Billy Wagner and even Eddie Guardado. I just hope the Sox don't tear a part the farm just to get a replacement. I have a feeling it will take a three team trade like last year to find adequate bullpen help. Personally, I'd love to see Kyle Farnsworth be rescued from Detroit. Don't be surprised to see Kelly Shoppach or even (gasp) Hanley Ramirez be moved by July 31st.

Glory's Sun

Shoppach is a sure bet for moving. I don't know if Foulke should go.. maybe just send him to the same club Shill is at to see what's going on. It has to be a mechanics issue or something. I just can't figure it out and I know it's pissing him off (not to mention every Boston fan he pretty much ridiculed with the "JoeBurgerKing" comment). I'm just sick of letting easy wins or even close wins go. We should have a healthy lead but no... he's playing like a fuckin yankee. Grrr!

dylanmarsh

I was really watching him last night and I couldn't see anything that was tipping off his pitches. I also didn't see him miss too many spots, aside from hitting Soriano after going 0-2 with him. I know TX has a solid offense but Foulke has to be doing something that is letting the hitters know what is coming. Unfortunately, Flouke is a two-pitch guy and he isn't fooling anyone, right now.

Guardado is my pick for the Sox' bullpen remedy. I don't know if Seattle will bite, though for Shoppach. On an interesting note about steady Eddie, the M's actually tried to dump in the off-season but he picked up his end of a mutual option and stayed.

Glory's Sun

I do know that his velocity is down. With his style of pitching that's a huge problem. He can't get around on anything if his speed is down.(although I'm sure Soriano doesn't mind) I was watching him also but I didn't see anything that would really tip the hitters off. It's a mystery to me and I'm sure it is to the BoSox staff as well. Just fix it already

I don't know about Guardado. I haven't paid as much attention as I should have because I really thought Foulke was just in a slump and that Embryee would post the numbers he usually does. I guess I was wrong. I just hope Theo has been looking around. I do know that at the SF game the other day there were 5 or 6 scouts there and Boston had one there as well. Schmidt could definately help out but we'll see what happens. For now, my only solice is that Shill hit 96 mph the other night.

dylanmarsh

The nice thing about Schmidt is that he is only under contract through 2005 with a club option for 2006. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the closer's role, although he might be resistant due to the disparity between a closer's salary and a starter's. I have a feeling he will cost the Sox at least Arroyo and Shoppach, if not more. Like I said, I think Theo will work he magic with another team in the mix like last summer's Nomar deal (Cubs-Twins-Sox).

Glory's Sun

I think you're right about Theo. He's definately got something planned, I just wish I knew what it was. I'd hate to get rid of Arroyo. I like the kid and think he can be a productive pitcher in the long run. Maybe we could get Lowe back but that doesn't really help the closer issue. (wishful thinking anyone?) I just think Theo needs to go ahead and strike first before the flopping yanks pull something out of their ass like they usually do.

pan6467

The Bosux getting schmidt? Lol you really want to self destruct don't you.

Your best bet is to try to get Halladay from Toronto or see iff Webb or Penny are available. Schmidt's velocity is dropping and his mechanics are in the shitter as he tries to make up for it. Short term for the run, maybe Schmidt can help an AL club, but the long term effect wouldn't justify the high cost in prospects. Boston is not prospect rich and that trade could bankrupt their future and they would end up like the Yankees. Old, weighted down with overpaid players, no farm system and no way to get rid of the dead weight because the pay is too high.

Houston maybe wanting to trade Clemens...... imagine Clemens finishing in a Bosux uni...... that would be a nice thing to see.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Glory's Sun

while it would be nice to see Clemens back in a BoSox uni, it will NEVER happen. I just don't think Rodger would even consider it. Right now it seems like it's the Sox of a different color who are front runners to get Rodger. I just don't see how he's still worth it. Yeah he's still good but he's too much of a pain in the ass to justify the means (holy shit am I really saying this?).

pan6467

If the Chisox get Clemens I can almost guarantee the Indians making a massive move.

Problem with Chicago they don't have the money or a good farm system.

But then again the year they are having, it might be worth it to them to sacrifice their future for Clemens, but I see them more in desperate need of hitting. They already have the great pitching and don't need the prima donna.

Perhaps if Baltimore starts falling farther down they can get Roberts or Gibbons.

The Indians I don't see doing too much except maybe trying to tweek 3rd base or LF hitting. But even then I don't see it happening unless Chicag or Minnesota makes a move.

And Minnesota maybe the true rogue in what they'll do. I can see them adding a Clemens or Schmidt on one hand and on the other I can see them being massive sellers and getting rid of Jones, Stewart and even Santana for the right prices.

If boston truly wants to win they'll try to get Dunn, Pena or Casey from the REDS.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Glory's Sun

Why would Boston get Dunn, Pena or Casey?? We don't need players in those spots. The players we have in those spots are doing fine. We need pitching not offense.


Edit: Oh and Minnesota would be STUPID!!! to get rid of Jones.

dylanmarsh

The Diamondbacks will never part with Webb; real cheap and a great arm. I'm I'd like Penny but Halladay seems unattainable.

Schmidt would be entirely a short-term acquisition. He looked like crap the last time I saw him but maybe a change of scenery would do him good.

The Sox farm system is acutally very, very deep, now. Theo's been building up since he took over in 2003. If they want to spend some of the talent on the farm, they could, but I doubt Theo and the trio will do it.

Getting back to Foulke, I was looking at his situational stats this morning and his ERA from pitch 1-15 is 0.67. From pitch 16-30 it is 13.46. That's an amazing disparity. On the other hand, Mike Timlin maintains a pretty consistent ERA during his appearances: 1-15 = 1.42; 16-30 = 2.89. I say stick with Timlin until he proves he can't perform in the closer's role. I maintain that Farnsworth is the best option, although probably not the cheapest.

Glory's Sun

Timlin scares me.. he always has. I guess it'd couldn't be any worse though So I'd say you are right on with this one.

dylanmarsh

Dunn would be a phenomenal pick-up. He's in the same mold of Bellhorn (high strike-out/OBP hovering around .400), except he can actually hit. In fact, the majority of Dunn's strike-out come with nobody out and nobody on. He's a great situational hitter. A line-up of Damon, Rent, Papi, Manny and then Dunn would be effing scary. My guess is that Cincy would only part with him if the Sox took someone else's salary (*gasp* Milton?). I'm not big on that but perhaps they could get a decent pitcher out of it, just not off of the Reds' roster. Hence the third team theory.

Glory's Sun

But where the fuck would Dunn fit in other than a bat?? Unless he rotated with Nixon or something I don't see how it would work.

dylanmarsh

Dunn would take over for the useless piece of flash, Kevin Millar. (I hate him so. ) Also, I'm not so sure Trot's back will hold out for the whole season. If that's the case, Dunn replaces Millar and Payton replaces Trot, which keeps the balance of lefties and righties in the line-up.

Glory's Sun

I thought Dunn was an outfielder?? I mean it just seems like a stretch to put an outfielder at first. (maybe not) I understand the feelings for Millar but at least he does keep everyone on the club loose. That's about all I can say about him -- at least in a nice manner.

pan6467

Boston does need the pitching, I just don't see anyone that can truly help you out there...... except maybe Clemens.

I'm sure if Boston doesn't take them someone will (sadly), perhaps Baltimore will be a buyer. Cleveland may even be a buyer off Cincy, as word is if they can keep up winning and contending for the WC ownership has given Shapiro the ok to spend money on what he feels would get them there. And Dunn/Pena/ Casey would definately help.

And you are telling me you would truly rather have Millar at 1st than Casey?

Or Nixon than have Dunn or Pena in LF and move Manny back to his natural spot in RF? LOL....Ok then.

I didn't say Minn. would dump anyone, in fact they could be buyers.... highly doubtful tho.

I just see the scenario in Minn. as this: Minnesota ownership wanting to dump Jones and Stewart and even Johan. You forget the owner truly wants out of Minneapolis. And Las Vegas is offering a lot of money I'm sure. You dump the stars and make chances slim and none to win the fan base disolves and moving becomes a legitimate answer.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Glory's Sun

Pan: I like Nixon, I think he's a solid player. Yeah you make some good points and now I'm rethinking my theory.. damn you!! I guess the reason I wasn't thinking about the issue at first is because we have Olerud. The man is good and steady. Get rid of Millar and let Olerud be the main kid.. wouldn't be bad in my eyes.

pan6467

I hate the fact my REDS would have to give up such talents, but their farm system is in shambles and the players they have don't seem to get the job done.

They are in desperate need of pitching and solid hitting that is more even. You can't keep winning games 10-8 and then losing the next 3, 5-0. It seems like their offense gets hot streaks and then freezes. And the pitching can't be relied upon to do anything, so CIny's hitting has to be more disciplined and steady.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

dylanmarsh

Here's some trade talk news from today:

From www.fanball.com:

pan6467

As much as I hate to see it, I predict the Washington club to just add anyone and everyone they can, solely because they want to pique interest in DC and need to sell the team....... and a winner will do that.

In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if we see Wash win the WS.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Glory's Sun

Washington won't win it. Unless there's something under the table going on.. wait.. ok yeah Washington will win the WS

dylanmarsh

The thought of Christan Guzman getting a World Series ring sickens me. On top of that, a team OWNED by MLB should not be in the position to win the WS. Fortunately, the Red Sox are still around and will sweep right through the Expos, er, Nationals in October, if it should come to that.

kutulu

What farm are you referring to? Their system is for the most part devoid of real prospects (aside from Hanley Ramirez). I haven't kept track of their guys this year but Baseball America basically said that it was a joke going into this season.


I doubt Halladay is available, even if he is the price would be sky high. There is no way in hell that Webb is available. AZ has plans on him being the anchor of their rotation for years to come. Same with Penny, the Dodger pitching just plain sucks and he's the only one that doesn't.

Schmidt is high risk/high reward and he just isn't worth the risk (thanks Dusty). That said, if you can get him on the cheap, go for it. Just don't expect too much.

Dunn has played some 1B and some RF almost every year in the MLB. If he made the switch to 1B, he'd be one of the best 1B in MLB. Millar just doesn't have the numbers to play 1B. A .732 OPB is just pathetic. Dunn has a .952 OPS and is on pace for 40+ HR and 110BB.

SmyDnBz

I'm looking forward to this 4 game set with the Indians, let the BoSox and O's beat themselves up....all I'm worried about is the Yankees taking over second and keeping the Sox within 4 games. That'll set up a nice post all-star game series.

It'll be Millwood v.s. Mussina on Thursday, Millwood has been hot and Moose is coming off a great game in Detroit, should be a good match-up. I know the whole Indian's offense has been hot but Hafner worries me the most...the guy is on a rampage. Although, Giambi seems to be getting his confidence back and A-Rod seems to have got his stroke back against Bmore and has hit well at home all year....so Cleveland should worry too.

In short, bring it on Cleveland

djtestudo

I just thought I'd bring this up in that along with Tejada, Mora, and Bedard, Roberts is the one guy we are absolutely positively not trading, even if we lose every game until the deadline.

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"Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen."
--Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

Glory's Sun

Here's hoping the yanks don't even make the playoffs... my what a funny thing that would be.

dylanmarsh

Bill Simmons wrote a good article on Page2 the other day about how Steinbrenner has been MIA during the recent MFY bout of suckiness. It is really strange how he has hardly been public about the MFYs' current situation. Like Bill says, old George woulda started killing folks and then ask questions later.

dylanmarsh

Hanley Ramirez, Jon Lester, Jon Papelbon, Dustin Pedroia, Cla Meredith, and Anibal Sanchez will all be on a major league roster within the next two seasons. Not to mention Craig Hansen, the fire-baller from St. John's, who the Sox drafted this year. So, yes, the Sox' farm system is pretty deep, at the moment. After the trade deadline, who knows.

Glory's Sun

That's a great article. My theory is that George has finally realized his money is shit and he fucked up this time..and big. So allow me to twist the knife back on him.

edit: I saw today where the BoSox are eye'ing Guardado. I can't see the article though because it's part of the Insider. I don't have an account.

dylanmarsh

My theory on George is that he has some sort of debilitating medical condition that he is forced to be in the shadows instead of the spotlight. Purely speculation, but I could see something Alzheimer's removing him from power. I really hope that isn't that case, as much as I HATE the MFYs.

Re: Guardado, I'm not sure he's the answer but it certainly couldn't hurt bringing him aboard. I know he has a no-trade clause that encompasses 10 teams, including the Red Sox. Evidentially, he is a West Coast guy and owns a home in California.

I WANT KYLE FARNSWORTH BY JULY 31ST. Farnsworth's numbers are sick, including a lifetime .217 AVG against the MFY with zero HRs.