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Old 11-11-2004, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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College Hoops are here!!!

Yeah... about time! Been crushed without Hockey, and NBA doesnt do a lot for me. About time the REAL hoops are here.
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Old 11-12-2004, 05:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The good news is that the Tar Heels are ranked #4 in the country. The bad news is that they are #3 in the ACC (behind Wake Forest and GT).
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Old 11-12-2004, 06:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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At least we finally have proof that the ACC is the best conference in college basketball
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Old 11-12-2004, 07:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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At least we finally have proof that the ACC is the best conference in college basketball
As if it that proof was needed! ACC always has fantastic hoops.

That being said.... Go Duke
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Old 11-12-2004, 07:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I am excited too, should be a competitive year. It will be interesting to see how Gilchrist plays this year, he killed the ACC tourney. With MD, GT, NC, and Wake, I think Duke's steak off ACC titles is going to end.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I am excited too, should be a competitive year. It will be interesting to see how Gilchrist plays this year, he killed the ACC tourney. With MD, GT, NC, and Wake, I think Duke's steak off ACC titles is going to end.
It ended last year

Averett: you had me until the Dookie part

Go Terrapins!
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Pre season rankings only mean so much. You can evaluate the best conferences at the end of the season.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It ended last year

Averett: you had me until the Dookie part

Go Terrapins!
I should have clarified. I meant to say regular season champioship streak. However, I would have been wrong about that too. I forgot Wake had won it the year before last.
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Coach Scott Drew has done amazing things so far. He somehow coached a group of no names into winning some big XII games and competitive in others (like against Okie State!) and now, to my utter disbelief and joy, has recruited a great class.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ign/index.html

yup, from a tragic national event to a top 25 class.

Number 3 in the Big XII.
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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UConn Basketball baby! Theres nothing else like it. Especially partying after a good win.
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Old 11-15-2004, 01:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm really excited about ACC basketball, but I'm really disappointed in Auburn before we've even played a game. We shouldn't bother to field a team this year, and just start practicing now for next season. We're just hurting other teams' strength of schedule, anyway.
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Old 11-15-2004, 02:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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At least we finally have proof that the ACC is the best conference in college basketball

hahahhaa .....no they are in fact the most overrated conferance in basketball and the one that gets the most hype. i liken them to the old show time lakers lots of flash. that said i will take the big ten this year to be the storngest conferance in basketball all those young guys form last season are going to be much better. i know for my hoosiers we only lost one player and no one that really matters. but hey we shall see thats why they play the games.
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am a local big ten'r... but I cannot argue that they will be better then the ACC. They have more talent and better recruiting it seems.
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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hahahhaa .....no they are in fact the most overrated conferance in basketball and the one that gets the most hype. i liken them to the old show time lakers lots of flash. that said i will take the big ten this year to be the storngest conferance in basketball all those young guys form last season are going to be much better. i know for my hoosiers we only lost one player and no one that really matters. but hey we shall see thats why they play the games.

Look at the current rankings:
Wake Forest- #2
UNC-#3
Georgia Tech-#4
Duke-#12
Maryland-#16
NC State-#19

All these teams performed well last year and made the NCAA Tourney.

GT and Duke made the final four.
The ACC is dominant, and has been for a while.

Talk about young guys and talent all you want. Even talk about Indiana who didn't do squat last year despite a great player in Wright. Thats the true hype.
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Old 11-16-2004, 09:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Final 4 appearances since 1990: ACC-17, Big 10-10, SEC-10, Big 12-8, PAC 10-5, Big East 4. I don't think we need any more evidence for the superiority of the ACC. And this from a Big 10 guy (I graduated from Indiana in '79). What I find the most interesting is how we don't know the players very well anymore. With the idiots going straight to the pros, or leaving school after a year, there's almost no time to build the hype. Even Duke loses players early now.
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Old 11-16-2004, 12:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Wake Forest played GW last night, it was awesome to watch. The ACC teams are just so fast and hard-working, and they can hit some really nice shots. The only team that will be worse than last year is Duke (they lost their point guard, that will hurt), and they'll be pretty good. Can we please fast-forward to the in-conference schedule?
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Look at the current rankings:
Wake Forest- #2
UNC-#3
Georgia Tech-#4
Duke-#12
Maryland-#16
NC State-#19

All these teams performed well last year and made the NCAA Tourney.

GT and Duke made the final four.
The ACC is dominant, and has been for a while.

Talk about young guys and talent all you want. Even talk about Indiana who didn't do squat last year despite a great player in Wright. Thats the true hype.


pre season ratings mean dick to use a example arburn was ranked 20th at the start of the foot ball season. they are now 3.


the big 10 plays some of the best d in basketball and the coaches tend to preach fundmental ball.

As i recall 2 years ago the cofferacne with the most teams in the tourny ah righ tthe big ten i know they had a down year last season this does not mean they are dead it means they all rebulit i am telling you watch out for a any big ten team this year form top to bottom they play the best d in the country.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yeah...TWO YEARS AGO...

And last year? It was...oh crap, what are they called again...I know it starts with an "A"...and there's two more letters in there...
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
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right and the big ten had a bad year out of the bule what makes you think that the acc is immune i bet you right now that the big ten has more teams in the tourny this year then the acc does.

o and michigan was a heck of team last year they were just not allowed to go to the tourny.
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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right and the big ten had a bad year out of the bule what makes you think that the acc is immune i bet you right now that the big ten has more teams in the tourny this year then the acc does.
Oh you do, do you?

How much?
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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lets step back and take a look at this shall we. in the acc you have the following teams.

clemson duke north carolina miami nc state floridia state geroriga tech maryland virgina virgina tech and wake forest. i see a case for six of them in the tourny.


now the big ten.

you have Michigan Ohio State Penn State Illinois Indiana Iowa Michigan State Minnesota Northwestern Purdue Wisconsin

i see six teams in both that can make it in this season


ok you tell me who who is the senveth in the acc

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Old 11-16-2004, 08:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Wait a minute, you said that the big ten will have more teams than the acc in the tourney this year, and now you're saying that they'll have the same number. Which are you saying? And the six teams with a strong chance in the ACC are ranked higher than the 6 with a good chance in the Big Ten. And according to ESPN's Bracketology, if the NCAA tournament started now and they picked the teams based on hype alone, the ACC has 6 teams in, while the Big Ten has only 4. What does this mean--it's going to be an uphill climb for the Big Ten to have equal representation compared with the ACC, let alone surpass them.
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Old 11-16-2004, 09:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Wake
NCST
UNC
Duke
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Virginia

All have the talent to make the NCAAs

Can you name 9 Big Ten teams?

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Wait a minute, you said that the big ten will have more teams than the acc in the tourney this year, and now you're saying that they'll have the same number. Which are you saying?
He couldn't figure out what to do when I called him on his bet
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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pre season ratings mean dick to use a example arburn was ranked 20th at the start of the foot ball season. they are now 3.


the big 10 plays some of the best d in basketball and the coaches tend to preach fundmental ball.

As i recall 2 years ago the cofferacne with the most teams in the tourny ah righ tthe big ten i know they had a down year last season this does not mean they are dead it means they all rebulit i am telling you watch out for a any big ten team this year form top to bottom they play the best d in the country.
Did you notice that I included that the teams I listed made the NCAA tourney last year? Did you notice I mentioned two ACC teams made the final four last year?

So let me get this straight, your points are that the Big Ten did well two years ago, had a down year last season, and will play the best D in the country?

Living in the past and speculating about the future isn't a convincing argument.
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Old 11-17-2004, 04:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Another fan of Az cats here, hopefully they play more team ball and go deeper in tourny this year.
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Old 11-17-2004, 08:46 PM   #27 (permalink)
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its Duquesne's turn to make a run... they were the last team to beat Xaiver before Ok St and Ryan Triccio is gona have an amazing year to take the A-10
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The best team in the Big Ten is obvisily the Fighting Illini, hope fully they will reach the final four this time. With Brown, Williams, Powel, Head, and other talent they will most certainly be highly ranked this season.
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:24 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Illinois is ranked #5, they have an excellent team. Guard play is huge in college basketball, and their backcourt is elite. Look at the last 5 champs, they all had at least one great guard.

Gordon-UCONN
Melo-Syracuse (maybe played some 3, but he really was a guard for them)
Dixon- Maryland
Jay Williams-Duke
Cleeves- Michigan State (hey, he was a real good college player)
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:15 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Go Cards. Fransisco Garcia is gonna be an All-American this year, this team is gonna be tough.
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