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homerhop · 08-05-2003, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by bigoldalphamale
interesting points. but then again, rugby is hardly the toughest game in the world to learn. american NFL pros must recall intricasies of plays from playbooks which often are over 100 pages in length. in rugby, ummm...skip 1, skip 2...yeah, its not that difficult. point here, is that NFLers could learn the rules of rugby with absolute ease. the physical aspect? i am sure you were joking about that one. there are no athletes faster, stronger, and tougher than those in the NFL. i am wrong, the NHL's athletes are equally as bad ass. besides, once some poor aussie took a hit from lavar arrington...that would likely be the end of his rugby career. i guess the US has to let the rest of the world feel like it is the best at something. soccer and rugby it is then!

Only in America

rodgerd · 08-05-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by bigoldalphamale
playing with a torn open bag isnt anything but downright retarded.

He's got four kids, so it obviously didn't do any long term damage.

archer2371 · 08-05-2003, 12:11 PM

Well I agree with bigoldalphamale to a point. If we got really serious about rugby, we could be really good at it, but the point is that we won't. The end result is.... always getting our ass handed to us in the World Cup, if we manage to make it that is. They oughta make a special grouping where all the weaker teams play each other in the WC, so they can get some confidence and maybe, just maybe upset a big team. Rugby players are just so much more tougher than football players, these guys bleed through phases, they don't run over to the sideline asking for a Band-Aid. What the NFL teams need to do is start recruiting it's kickers from rugby, they're pretty damn good. Doubtful that the rugby guys will do it, but hey, it's worth a shot. Anyways, I side with my international friends on this one, rugby players are more physically adept than football players are, bar none. And plus, Arrington would probably feel really woosy too after getting hit by even, Jonah I daresay, he can lay down some hits too, even with bad kidneys.

siddhartha · 08-06-2003, 05:39 PM

Anyone want to speak up now that the All Blacks have smoked the Aussies and South Africans? Anyone want to talk about who is the favorite to win the RWC? Anyone?

That's what I thought. Methinks they're hitting their stride, the All Blacks are...

siddhartha · 08-06-2003, 05:40 PM

Oh, and in my opinion, the three events in the poll are equally compelling. Just depends on the time of the year.

paj · 08-06-2003, 08:18 PM

rugby is damn fun, and hardcore, but i'd have to say that aussie rules football is the most extreme sport i know of. basically, to my understanding, is that 'aussie' means 'no'

i would love to see NFL atheletes try and play rugby..who wouldnt want to see lincoln kennedy or tony siragusa try and play prop!

oh, and go canada! get beat by the maoris 52-10!
lol

iceman2032 · 08-07-2003, 08:00 AM

Are these just different leagues or something?

archer2371 · 08-07-2003, 10:58 AM

Well, Super 12 rugby can be compared to the National Football League, cept that S12 is international with the Aussies, Kiwis, and I believe some South Pacific Island nations participating. The NFL comparison comes into play, because it's not just nations competing, more like regions or cities competing. Six Nations is Northern Hemisphere Rugby with England, Ireland, Italy, France, Scotland, and one other I can't remember that compete for the Six Nations Championship. Tri Nations is considered the creme de la creme of rugby, with the three world power houses of S. Africa, Australia, and New Zealand competing for the TN Championship. The SN and TN playoff series is basically a tune up for World Cup Rugby. And, Siddhartha, I agree, the All Blacks are finally hitting their stride and are the clear favorites to win the World Cup.

archer2371 · 08-18-2003, 06:58 PM

Mwahaaa!! 2003 New Zealand All Blacks- Tri-Nations Champions and Bledisloe Cup Winners and future RWC Champions. (I know a little late, but my international peeps need to post more).

almostaugust · 08-18-2003, 07:59 PM

Tri nations. Go the Wallabies!!!!!

Damn those Springboks are dirty buggers.

rodgerd · 08-19-2003, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by almostaugust
Tri nations. Go the Wallabies!!!!!

Damn those Springboks are dirty buggers.

Yeah. Aussie are angels, though. They'd never get sent off for dangerous tackles.

archer2371 · 08-19-2003, 09:59 AM

Did you see it when Griegan tried to tell the ref in the Blacks/Wallabies game (when they were trying to figure out if a play was a try, or if the Blacks player lost the ball forward) what was going on and what happened. The ref just said "We know, we know." and basically told him to shut up.

rodgerd · 08-19-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by archer2371
Did you see it when Griegan tried to tell the ref in the Blacks/Wallabies game (when they were trying to figure out if a play was a try, or if the Blacks player lost the ball forward) what was going on and what happened. The ref just said "We know, we know." and basically told him to shut up.

The best Gregan moment was when Jerry Collins reached over the ruck and picked up the ball. The look on Gregan's face when the ref told him it was legit was priceless!

bundy · 08-20-2003, 06:20 AM

that was such a strange moment. it was like the whole game just paused for a moment, while jerry reached in and took it.

but my fav facial expression was wendel just after he took muliaini in the air (in their first tri nations clash)... he was like, ´what? what?´ - now that was funny.

archer, its pretty much georgies thing to get in there and tell the ref the rules.

have to hand it to the kiwis... absolutely amazing performance... easily the best team around, by far.

they´ve got easily the best back line i´ve ever seen. and that defence in the second half of the last bledisloe game - rock solid. the all blacks in their stride are going to be impossible to stop this world cup.

even with our full strength wallaby squad they taught us a lesson.

as for dirty bokka tactics... well i think in the first bledisloe match, the wallabies played fairly dirty as well (at one point i thought the only tactic eddie jones had put forward was to take out the kiwi back three)... but everyone knows that the dirty teams are France, England and South Africa.

archer2371 · 08-20-2003, 10:50 AM

I know it is, I just love the ref's reactions in rugby, so much better than football, basketball, or hockey, even soccer, I just love it. It's just too funny to see these little tiny referees tell these big huge backs what they did wrong and the backs look like they've been admonished by their mother (looking at the floor, or maybe the ref since they're so short, nodding and saying "I'm sorry,"). And yeah, the dirty teams are France, England and the Boks.

Spartak · 08-20-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by archer2371
Well, Super 12 rugby can be compared to the National Football League, cept that S12 is international with the Aussies, Kiwis, and I believe some South Pacific Island nations participating.

Almost right.

S12 is basically club rugby from Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.

And now that the All Blacks rightly have the Bledisloe, I really can't care about the world cup

But All Blacks look damn hot to win it.

JTC · 08-20-2003, 11:51 PM

Allblacks would definitely be the favourites going into the cup but I think the Aussies can be quietly confident after their performance the other night. They at least showed they have the potential to do it. England is still a big threat too me thinks...

I think the Bledisloe is the best yearly competition (in the southern hemisphere anyway).

Anyone going to any of the world cup games??? I've got tickets to about 8 or 9 matches and can't wait till October comes around.

slimshaydee · 08-23-2003, 06:09 PM

Tri-nations has become the one tourney I look forward to each year (except for the World Cup), but with England currently the best side in the World, The World Cup would be the best playoff series (why isnt it in the poll).

Spartak · 08-23-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by JTC
Anyone going to any of the world cup games???

I wish.

Because of the stupid NZRFU messing up the co-host agreement, to see the tickets I have to buy some sort of package which includes inflated air fares and accomodation. Apparently they go for NZ$4000 a pop.

JTC · 08-23-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Spartak
Apparently they go for NZ$4000 a pop.

Jesus!!!

That's a bit steep aye.

I was lucky and managed to get tickets to all games in my city. Some from as little as $5. Unbelievable! These games might not be that good but there'll still be a bit of atmosphere around.

It's a real shame NZ couldn't get their act together for the cup. Especially considering the form that they have been in recently.

archer2371 · 08-24-2003, 10:02 AM

Hey if any mod reads this, can you please place a "World Cup" option on the poll? Thanks.

bundy · 08-31-2003, 12:29 AM

did just see the latest rugby results correctly?
did France just beat England...?

have the Poms peaked too early??
and are the French coming into dangerous form??

imo, yes and maybe...

Ireland thrashed Italy, and Argentina thrashed Canada... no surprise here.

wish this World Cup would just bloody hurry up!!
i´m sick of all this speculation...

Spartak · 08-31-2003, 02:09 PM

Poms are overrated... which is what we've been saying since June.

They were lucky to beat NZ (in NZ's first "new-look" outing mind you), and Australia knew that this season they were in for a shocker, so there's no surprises really.

Although France love upset wins... /me bitterly remembers 1999

archer2371 · 09-08-2003, 07:18 PM

Super 12 has started back up again? And who's ready for some RWC!!!??

Spartak · 09-09-2003, 02:15 AM

Oh god no!

The New Zealand NPC (local rugby championship) has started, with only a couple of all-blacks being released to play, looks like a really good season.

But yeh, bring on the RWC!!

bundy · 09-09-2003, 05:38 AM

is the current RWC Qantas ad being shown anywhere else?

well, if its not, it has several portraits of one famous player from most of the top competing countries sitting in famous locations of their homeland, with their name written above.

anyway, the point is, with all of these great players like Tana Umaga, Martin Johnson etc... theres one glaring mistake.

with the Canadians, the ad just says, 'the Canadians'. no names.
does qantas not know who plays for Canada..?
i think its pretty unfair. i mean, they even name the Fijian player, and they're just about as competitive as Canada.

anyway... bring it on!

Wallabies vs Pumas to start things off.
that should be a good game.

Spartak · 09-09-2003, 05:46 PM

I'd say Fijians are more competetive than Canadians, perhaps not as a team, but a lot of their wingers play in New Zealand for the Super 12.

But, I agree, it sounds like shabby advertising.

archer2371 · 09-10-2003, 11:55 AM

Hmmm, the Fiji team for the RWC may not be as good this year (like it matters for the US they're gonna be everyone's bitch) because most of the Fijian all-stars aren't going to play for Fiji in the RWC, at least, that's what I heard and I could be wrong.

visious · 10-28-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by archer2371
I prefer Tri-Nations, go All Blacks!

YEA GO ALL BLACKS!!!!!!!!!

Feyenoord · 10-29-2003, 05:02 AM

The six Nations, just because their are only 6 nations which play good RUGBY!!! The rest has to pratice more often!!!!

An NZ fan

bundy · 10-29-2003, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Feyenoord
The six Nations, just because their are only 6 nations which play good RUGBY!!! The rest has to pratice more often!!!!

??

those six nations being England, France, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Italy ??

they all play good rugby??

what do you mean the rest need to practice more?

Sunrise · 11-01-2003, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by archer2371
Yeah, Rugby will never catch on in the United States like in the rest of the world, for a number of reasons. Americans love their watered down, very boring version of rugby, football, which I do watch, but it has since been removed as my second favorite sport. The venues for rugby are not large enough in America to hold all the people who would come to see test matches (like soccer does it's American tour). It's sad that rugby will never catch on in the United States, because it's truly a great sport. I'd move to Australia or New Zealand but for the high taxes down there.

I'm in Australia. I don't see the big deal about rugby, I've tried watching it, but I don't liek it. Same about cricket, boring and slow to me. AFL I don't mind. American football I don't mind either, although we only really get coverage of the superbowl. I like soccer best though. Atleast for you rugby fans, world rugby interest is slowly getting bigger and bigger.

View Poll Results: What's the best playoff series?
Super 12	7	21.88%
Tri-Nations	11	34.38%
Six-Nations	14	43.75%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

08-05-2003, 12:11 PM	#43 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Well I agree with bigoldalphamale to a point. If we got really serious about rugby, we could be really good at it, but the point is that we won't. The end result is.... always getting our ass handed to us in the World Cup, if we manage to make it that is. They oughta make a special grouping where all the weaker teams play each other in the WC, so they can get some confidence and maybe, just maybe upset a big team. Rugby players are just so much more tougher than football players, these guys bleed through phases, they don't run over to the sideline asking for a Band-Aid. What the NFL teams need to do is start recruiting it's kickers from rugby, they're pretty damn good. Doubtful that the rugby guys will do it, but hey, it's worth a shot. Anyways, I side with my international friends on this one, rugby players are more physically adept than football players are, bar none. And plus, Arrington would probably feel really woosy too after getting hit by even, Jonah I daresay, he can lay down some hits too, even with bad kidneys. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

08-06-2003, 05:39 PM	#44 (permalink)
siddhartha Upright Location: out there...	Anyone want to speak up now that the All Blacks have smoked the Aussies and South Africans? Anyone want to talk about who is the favorite to win the RWC? Anyone? That's what I thought. Methinks they're hitting their stride, the All Blacks are... __________________ The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

08-06-2003, 05:40 PM	#45 (permalink)
siddhartha Upright Location: out there...	Oh, and in my opinion, the three events in the poll are equally compelling. Just depends on the time of the year. __________________ The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

08-07-2003, 10:58 AM	#48 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Well, Super 12 rugby can be compared to the National Football League, cept that S12 is international with the Aussies, Kiwis, and I believe some South Pacific Island nations participating. The NFL comparison comes into play, because it's not just nations competing, more like regions or cities competing. Six Nations is Northern Hemisphere Rugby with England, Ireland, Italy, France, Scotland, and one other I can't remember that compete for the Six Nations Championship. Tri Nations is considered the creme de la creme of rugby, with the three world power houses of S. Africa, Australia, and New Zealand competing for the TN Championship. The SN and TN playoff series is basically a tune up for World Cup Rugby. And, Siddhartha, I agree, the All Blacks are finally hitting their stride and are the clear favorites to win the World Cup. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

08-06-2003, 08:18 PM	#46 (permalink)
paj Tilted	rugby is damn fun, and hardcore, but i'd have to say that aussie rules football is the most extreme sport i know of. basically, to my understanding, is that 'aussie' means 'no' i would love to see NFL atheletes try and play rugby..who wouldnt want to see lincoln kennedy or tony siragusa try and play prop! oh, and go canada! get beat by the maoris 52-10! lol

08-07-2003, 08:00 AM	#47 (permalink)
iceman2032 Crazy	Are these just different leagues or something?

08-18-2003, 06:58 PM	#49 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Mwahaaa!! 2003 New Zealand All Blacks- Tri-Nations Champions and Bledisloe Cup Winners and future RWC Champions. (I know a little late, but my international peeps need to post more). __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

08-18-2003, 07:59 PM	#50 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Tri nations. Go the Wallabies!!!!! Damn those Springboks are dirty buggers. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-19-2003, 09:59 AM	#52 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Did you see it when Griegan tried to tell the ref in the Blacks/Wallabies game (when they were trying to figure out if a play was a try, or if the Blacks player lost the ball forward) what was going on and what happened. The ref just said "We know, we know." and basically told him to shut up. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

08-20-2003, 06:20 AM	#54 (permalink)
bundy . Location: Tokyo	that was such a strange moment. it was like the whole game just paused for a moment, while jerry reached in and took it. but my fav facial expression was wendel just after he took muliaini in the air (in their first tri nations clash)... he was like, ´what? what?´ - now that was funny. archer, its pretty much georgies thing to get in there and tell the ref the rules. have to hand it to the kiwis... absolutely amazing performance... easily the best team around, by far. they´ve got easily the best back line i´ve ever seen. and that defence in the second half of the last bledisloe game - rock solid. the all blacks in their stride are going to be impossible to stop this world cup. even with our full strength wallaby squad they taught us a lesson. as for dirty bokka tactics... well i think in the first bledisloe match, the wallabies played fairly dirty as well (at one point i thought the only tactic eddie jones had put forward was to take out the kiwi back three)... but everyone knows that the dirty teams are France, England and South Africa. __________________ Ohayo!!!

08-20-2003, 10:50 AM	#55 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	I know it is, I just love the ref's reactions in rugby, so much better than football, basketball, or hockey, even soccer, I just love it. It's just too funny to see these little tiny referees tell these big huge backs what they did wrong and the backs look like they've been admonished by their mother (looking at the floor, or maybe the ref since they're so short, nodding and saying "I'm sorry,"). And yeah, the dirty teams are France, England and the Boks. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

08-20-2003, 11:51 PM	#57 (permalink)
JTC Tilted Location: Australia	Allblacks would definitely be the favourites going into the cup but I think the Aussies can be quietly confident after their performance the other night. They at least showed they have the potential to do it. England is still a big threat too me thinks... I think the Bledisloe is the best yearly competition (in the southern hemisphere anyway). Anyone going to any of the world cup games??? I've got tickets to about 8 or 9 matches and can't wait till October comes around. __________________ I like to eat cheese

08-23-2003, 06:09 PM	#58 (permalink)
slimshaydee If you've read this, PM me and say so Location: Sitting on my ass, and you?	Tri-nations has become the one tourney I look forward to each year (except for the World Cup), but with England currently the best side in the World, The World Cup would be the best playoff series (why isnt it in the poll).

08-24-2003, 10:02 AM	#61 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Hey if any mod reads this, can you please place a "World Cup" option on the poll? Thanks. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

08-31-2003, 12:29 AM	#62 (permalink)
bundy . Location: Tokyo	did just see the latest rugby results correctly? did France just beat England...? have the Poms peaked too early?? and are the French coming into dangerous form?? imo, yes and maybe... Ireland thrashed Italy, and Argentina thrashed Canada... no surprise here. wish this World Cup would just bloody hurry up!! i´m sick of all this speculation... __________________ Ohayo!!!

08-31-2003, 02:09 PM	#63 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	Poms are overrated... which is what we've been saying since June. They were lucky to beat NZ (in NZ's first "new-look" outing mind you), and Australia knew that this season they were in for a shocker, so there's no surprises really. Although France love upset wins... /me bitterly remembers 1999 __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

09-08-2003, 07:18 PM	#64 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Super 12 has started back up again? And who's ready for some RWC!!!?? __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

09-09-2003, 02:15 AM	#65 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	Oh god no! The New Zealand NPC (local rugby championship) has started, with only a couple of all-blacks being released to play, looks like a really good season. But yeh, bring on the RWC!! __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

09-09-2003, 05:38 AM	#66 (permalink)
bundy . Location: Tokyo	is the current RWC Qantas ad being shown anywhere else? well, if its not, it has several portraits of one famous player from most of the top competing countries sitting in famous locations of their homeland, with their name written above. anyway, the point is, with all of these great players like Tana Umaga, Martin Johnson etc... theres one glaring mistake. with the Canadians, the ad just says, 'the Canadians'. no names. does qantas not know who plays for Canada..? i think its pretty unfair. i mean, they even name the Fijian player, and they're just about as competitive as Canada. anyway... bring it on! Wallabies vs Pumas to start things off. that should be a good game. __________________ Ohayo!!!

09-09-2003, 05:46 PM	#67 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	I'd say Fijians are more competetive than Canadians, perhaps not as a team, but a lot of their wingers play in New Zealand for the Super 12. But, I agree, it sounds like shabby advertising. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

09-10-2003, 11:55 AM	#68 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Hmmm, the Fiji team for the RWC may not be as good this year (like it matters for the US they're gonna be everyone's bitch) because most of the Fijian all-stars aren't going to play for Fiji in the RWC, at least, that's what I heard and I could be wrong. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

10-29-2003, 05:02 AM	#70 (permalink)
Feyenoord Addict Location: Netherlands	The six Nations, just because their are only 6 nations which play good RUGBY!!! The rest has to pratice more often!!!! An NZ fan