Bigt6909

Carlos Boozer has been rocking lately, and I'm not really sure why... he's been averaging a double double over the past 8 games or something... been a real standout on the cavs....

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sixate

First of all, Z can't jump at all, and Wallace bounces out of the fucking gym. So height doesn't mean anything.

BTW, Wallace is the starting center in the All Start game. I agree with you, but obviously the NBA doesn't.

Boozer is a fucking beast, and I would take him on my team over Big Ben any day(I hate one dimensional players). He's a fucking animal on the glass, and he's an offensive force. He does all the little things, works his ass off, and has great fundamentals(which Ben doesn't). LeBron and Boozer are gonna make the Cavs a great team in the East in another year or two. I hope they don't make the playoffs this year just so they can get one more good draft pick to help solidify that team. Hell, I'm just happy the Cavs have some upside and some players and coach that I like. It's good to have a local team to support for a change.

Mojo_PeiPei

If the Cavs keep playing like they do, and the rest of the East keeps up at its current pace they very well may make the playoffs.

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jasonresno

They have a good chance at the moment. Boozer IS a beast..like the last 5 games..he has averaged like...20 points and 16 rebounds..

alec

wow, how come no one has talked about the steal category? iverson / that utah white dude / artest at the top? id say iverson plays some awesome defense but probably not amazing enough to get defense of the year

sixate

Iverson has great anticipation and plays the passing lanes better than anyone, but he can't shut people down. Bigger guards post him up and abuse him.

Kurant

Living in Alaska, we saw Boozer score 57 points in a game VS North Pole High School, as a Junior. Unreal. I have some good friends in West Philly, one got drafted by Boston in 1993 and never made the team, but made a good living until last year playing ball in Europe. Him and his buddies said Boozer was too lazy in college to make the jump, he needed to work harder, and hit the glass harder. Sure enough, he's done it. He used to school us around in high school. I only played him once though. The other time I had already left school for college. Best player I've personally ever had the privlage to play against. Bill Walton ever went far enough to say he should have been an All-Star when they played LA on Wed. (Or Tuesday? can't remember)

Iverson is just Iverson, he's great at eatng up passes in the lane, but his post up defense leaves somthing to be desired. Bigger guards toss him around.

Defense, Ben Wallace is a bad ass, one dimensional or not, it's the NBA Defensive Player of the Year. Not the NBA's Most Well Rounded Player award. You don't have to be good at anything else to win that award.

jasonresno

I like these guys for Defensive player of the year:

Yao Ming
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(1.78)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks(87.0)
And plus, he is just a force inside. He can shut down anything

Ron Artest
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Steals(101.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(2.06)
He is a great defender, if he could keep a cool head he could go FAR.

Ben Wallace
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(3.1)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(1.8)
Ranks #8 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes(3.77)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Blocks(155.0)

Andrei Krililinko
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(2.07)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Blocks(132.0)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes(3.72)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(2.87)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Steals(95.0)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Steals Per 48 Minutes(2.68)

powerclown

Weird game last night for the soon-to-be 3x Defensive Player of the Year Wallace. He was the top *scorer* for the Pistons with 14 points, 13 boards. Their shit is all messed up without Okur, they seem tired.

jasonresno

Well Mehmet is a big part of their game..

Mojo_PeiPei

I like Kirlenko better then big Ben... mostly because he reminds me of Dolf Lundgren.

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AL9045

It's not all about stats. And it took till page 2 until someone mentioned AK47.

Statswise, Big Ben would take it home, but he is nowhere as complete a player as AK47, who I like to refer as "Mini-Ben" on defense, but he can also shoot the 3, shoot the FTs and is not a liability on offense.

No one mentioned Bruce Bowen though, he might not have the great defensive stats, but he does shut down some of the better guards and is a defensive pest.

Bigt6909

I think that Andre Kirlenko is a damn good player however, like I've said before I dont think he has the intimidation factor that Ben has. Just Ben's presence in the lane causes players to think twice about driving.

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powerclown

yep...he's turning out to be ok for a big, ugly white guy...

cactus_bangers

hey al, i mentioned AK on page 1

cactus_bangers

cavs need a pure point guard (which hopefully mcinnis can be) and a little more depth at the bench, and they're a 2nd round playoff team, at least...

jasonresno

That came out of right field..anyways. If Mcinnis can step up and play as well as he did a day or two ago than they should be fine..

Bigt6909

Do you really believe they will be a 2nd round playoff team... theyll come in being the number 6, 7, or 8 in the east, if they come in 6 they still would have to play detriot, indiana, or new jersey. The only chance they'll have to make it to the second round is to kick some ass the second half of the season and try to come in as the number 5... which I honestly don't know if they can do.

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jasonresno

Again...if Boozer and Ilgauskas can play as well as they did last night....they might make it, it IS the east remember.