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Strange Famous 01-24-2004 01:20 PM

All time greatest heavyweights
 
1- George Foreman
2 - Mike Tyson
3 - Muhammad Ali
4 - Jack Johnson
5 - Rocky Marciano
6 - Sonny Liston
7 - Jack Dempsey
8 - Joe Louis
9 - Larry Holmes
10 - Joe Frazier

SAM821 01-24-2004 02:28 PM

i dont know about in that particular order... its really hard to tell...

Anomaly_ 01-24-2004 03:48 PM

I'm far from being a boxing expert but Tyson just isn't No. 2 as much as I love watching him fight.
My attempt at a list:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Joe Frazier
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Larry Holmes
8. Evander Holyfield
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

Ace_O_Spades 01-24-2004 04:15 PM

You really need to ignore the last like 5 tyson fights

Early career Tyson is possibly the best fighter in boxing, he was so damned good

too bad he's a psycho.... I rank him #2 behind Ali as # 1

IMO anyway

bundy 01-24-2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anomaly_

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Joe Frazier
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Larry Holmes
8. Evander Holyfield
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

i agree with this list.

cheesemoney 01-24-2004 06:29 PM

Lennox Lewis beat Tyson's ass when they were kids too. They sparred together, and after Tyson stunned Lewis at first, Lewis handed it to him by keeping Tyson at bay with his reach.

Sorry, but there's no way Tyson is better than Lewis.
Sure is more fun to watch though.

NoseyJoe 01-24-2004 08:31 PM

If Tyson hadnt have gone nuts, I think he would have been in the top 3 for sure.

jay-g 01-25-2004 01:52 AM

In his prime, Tyson couldnt be touched. I think he's the best heavyweight boxer ever.....

cheesemoney 01-29-2004 01:53 AM

Who did he beat, in hindsight, that was well respected?

Do you watch boxing?

Name one analyst that thinks Tyson is better than Lewis. Lewis is OLDER, for christs sake!

Lewis has reach on tyson. Tyson never could get in on him, though he would have made it look prettier had he been able to stay in shape and focused.

Neither is invincible, as both were schooled in their prime. Rachman, Douglas.

If you think Tyson is the best heavyweight ever, then you don't watch a lot of boxing.

Roy Jones would beat Iron Mike right now, and he's not even a true heavyweight.

JoeyB 01-29-2004 04:33 AM

Many respected boxing historians give Tyson his deserved respect....however, they insist that Tyson is a modern-day Sonny Liston. Incredibly powerful and destructive and can plow through opponents.

Then look what Ali did to Liston.

Tyson was a monster and he deserves to be in the top 10, but he shouldn't be in the top 3. If you're talking about the greatest knockout artists, he's probably #1....greatest of all time???

Cassius Clay

Bookman 01-29-2004 09:59 AM

Ali then Tyson. The rest fall where they may. I dont consider records or demise(s). This is Greatness...Ali because of his personality and deliverance as well as THE ROPE-A-DOPE.
Tyson..its like Shaq ONeal. During his pretty lengthy prime..HE ATE HIS COMPETITORS (no pun intended).

Hands down.

Vespertine 01-29-2004 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheesemoney
Roy Jones would beat Iron Mike right now, and he's not even a true heavyweight.
I agreed with the rest of what you had to say...but c'mon. Roy Jones is on the downward slope too. He's cocky, and he's letting it affect his boxing. As far as Tyson has degenerated, I still think he'd tear him apart.

cheesemoney 01-30-2004 12:11 AM

I know Jones is down... I just think that tyson is so slow that its not even funny anymore.

cheesemoney 01-30-2004 12:11 AM

... and Jones looked allright as a heavyweight.

Jephree 01-31-2004 10:09 AM

that's a tough one. i'll get back to you on this one

Bigt6909 02-04-2004 05:54 PM

Ill agree with the above list... there might be a little shuffle in the list... but it seems pretty good

bt8624 02-09-2004 05:05 PM

lmao....Lewis? Didn't he get knocked around like a doughboy his last fight? His second fight with holyfield he was like a wet towel draped over holyfield...and they gave him a draw! that 82 inch reach keeps him out of trouble...thats for sure.

grumpyolddude 02-10-2004 04:28 PM

Ali, Louis, Dempsey, Marciano....

Any list of the greatest heavyweight boxers in history that doesn't start with these names, in some order, is severely flawed.
Frazier, Foreman, and Holmes, along with Ali, may, indeed, make up the greatest generation of heavyweights ever. It's difficult to include Tyson, when he could have achieved so much more, had he not imploded. Holyfield and Lewis have been dominant, but the division has been quite weak. Liston doesn't belong here at all.

Just a grumps' opinion!

onetime2 02-11-2004 05:57 AM

Not a big enough fan to be able to make a list but if Foreman comes out of retirement again (as I just heard he's thinking about) and regains the title he would be at the top without a doubt for me. If he doesn't, he's still within the top 3 for me.

bundy 02-11-2004 06:19 PM

i would just like to amend the top ten i mentioned eariler...

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Rocky Marciano
4. George Foreman
5. Joe Frazier
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Mike Tyson
9. Sonny Liston
10. Evander Holyfield

thought i should reorder that list...
Tyson really was fantastic at his prime. even though he's slipped a very long way, he does deserve a higher rank than 10th.
i also had Foreman above Marciano. figured that needed swapping.

as for Roy Jones, well he's a sensational fighter, but lets just leave him as the greatest light heavyweight.
a Tyson vs Jones fight would be great to watch. i'd put my cash on Jones.

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MontanaXVI 02-16-2004 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by miss_sexual
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Ali
Marciano
Joe Lewis
Foreman
Frazier
Holyfield
Lennox Lewis
Dempsey
Tyson
Liston

I am sure if i put more thought into the list i might change it but this is the way I will leave it for now,


thank Hal for an edit button though in a few weeks if i change it.

Annabella 03-17-2004 03:23 PM

There are same names in the lists above so I won't list them again.Great boxers all,I agree with you..


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