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thephuse · 01-05-2004, 03:32 PM

The Knicks today completed a 8 player deal, involving:
Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, and Cezary Trybanski going to the Knicks for Antonio Mcdyess, Howard Eisley, Charlie Ward, Maciej Lampe, rights to Milos Vujanic, 2 1st round picks, and cash.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1700818

Wow...

the Knicks gave up a lot for those players, but Marbury is a franchise player that can change a team... Hopefully the Knicks are moving in the right direction...

sixate · 01-05-2004, 04:39 PM

It's a good deal for the Knicks who are stacked at the power forward position. Plus, they get a major upgrade at the point. I don't know what the fuck the Suns are thinking.

SAM821 · 01-05-2004, 07:35 PM

looks kind of desparate... but we'll see, its better than nothing... no only if the heat can pick up one more player...

anyway... Marbury is a good player... Penny, i never though he was any good... shaq made him look good in orlando... thats about it...

djtestudo · 01-05-2004, 09:36 PM

The Suns gain something like $20 million of cap room from this deal, plus the two first-round picks. Might be a place a certain Laker might want to try, given his publicly stated desires to test the FA market this offseason and desire to lead a team on his own.

Sleepyjack · 01-06-2004, 03:03 AM

I think the Knicks might've done alright there. After 2 rounds (or more?) of knee surgery, McDyess has always been a little dodgy, albeit a great player when in form.... so?

Also, how do you think ward or eisley (assume one of them are gonna be starters) are gonna go at phoneix?

Halx · 01-06-2004, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by djtestudo
The Suns gain something like $20 million of cap room from this deal, plus the two first-round picks. Might be a place a certain Laker might want to try, given his publicly stated desires to test the FA market this offseason and desire to lead a team on his own.

BLASPHEMY!!!

asudevil83 · 01-06-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Halx
BLASPHEMY!!!

the word here in phoenix is that the suns might be looking at that, depending on how this trial thing works out.

the suns are one of only a few teams (clippers, nuggets) that will be able to afford a big name free agent over the summer. neither of the two of those really sound like plausible places. the clippers are just too close to the lakers, and completely different franchises. and the nuggets, well i think you can figure that out yourself.

ReggErving · 01-07-2004, 09:35 PM

The Knicks will do nothing with Isiah running the show.

dragon2fire · 01-08-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by sixate
It's a good deal for the Knicks who are stacked at the power forward position. Plus, they get a major upgrade at the point. I don't know what the fuck the Suns are thinking.

they are thinking 2 frist round picks form a team int he lottery

now if they have a bad year as well they could end up with 2 very goood rookies comeing in next year

and the year after that

jay-g · 01-15-2004, 02:57 AM

Starbury has too much of a ego. To me, it seems like he's more about himself rather than his team. Also Penny isnt as good as he used to be after his injuries. I think the Knicks will be rebuilding and 500 or below for awhile.

BigBlueWrecking · 01-15-2004, 06:16 AM

AS a Knick fan, I don't mind the trade. I do mind firing Chaney (not the firing Chaney part because he was the worst coach in the league) to hire Lenny "I am older than Moses and haven't won shit in two decades" Wilkens. He sucks. Fratello sucks.

We should have gone after a guy like Doc Rivers. It is not his fault Orlando used 10 mil a year on Hill. He is a good coach. They let all of their players get away. Miller for Gooden when Gooden had not proven anything?

The reason I don't really care about giving up two draft picks is this, when was the last time the Knicks drafted someone who started on their team? Frank Williams started for a couple of games, but other than that it goes back to CHARLIE WARD. It has been a LONG time. We are talking about the same dumb ass Knicks that picked Frederick Weiss over Ron Artest. When was the last time anyone saw WEiss? when Vince Carter was putting his nuts in his mouth by jumping over him!

THe one guy that might hurt out of this trade will be Milas (foreign PG) or Lampe. He is supposed to be a star in like 5 years.

01-05-2004, 03:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
thephuse Psycho Location: NY	Knicks Turning Around? The Knicks today completed a 8 player deal, involving: Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, and Cezary Trybanski going to the Knicks for Antonio Mcdyess, Howard Eisley, Charlie Ward, Maciej Lampe, rights to Milos Vujanic, 2 1st round picks, and cash. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1700818 Wow... the Knicks gave up a lot for those players, but Marbury is a franchise player that can change a team... Hopefully the Knicks are moving in the right direction... __________________ b000yahed up your w000pah!! Joygasm~!!

01-05-2004, 09:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	The Suns gain something like $20 million of cap room from this deal, plus the two first-round picks. Might be a place a certain Laker might want to try, given his publicly stated desires to test the FA market this offseason and desire to lead a team on his own. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

01-07-2004, 09:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
ReggErving Addict	The Knicks will do nothing with Isiah running the show. __________________ ...sitting on your bed with a samauri pose.

01-05-2004, 04:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	It's a good deal for the Knicks who are stacked at the power forward position. Plus, they get a major upgrade at the point. I don't know what the fuck the Suns are thinking.

01-05-2004, 07:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
SAM821 Surviving Hurricanes Location: Miami, Florida	looks kind of desparate... but we'll see, its better than nothing... no only if the heat can pick up one more player... anyway... Marbury is a good player... Penny, i never though he was any good... shaq made him look good in orlando... thats about it...

01-06-2004, 03:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	I think the Knicks might've done alright there. After 2 rounds (or more?) of knee surgery, McDyess has always been a little dodgy, albeit a great player when in form.... so? Also, how do you think ward or eisley (assume one of them are gonna be starters) are gonna go at phoneix?

01-15-2004, 02:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
jay-g Addict	Starbury has too much of a ego. To me, it seems like he's more about himself rather than his team. Also Penny isnt as good as he used to be after his injuries. I think the Knicks will be rebuilding and 500 or below for awhile.

01-15-2004, 06:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
BigBlueWrecking Psycho	AS a Knick fan, I don't mind the trade. I do mind firing Chaney (not the firing Chaney part because he was the worst coach in the league) to hire Lenny "I am older than Moses and haven't won shit in two decades" Wilkens. He sucks. Fratello sucks. We should have gone after a guy like Doc Rivers. It is not his fault Orlando used 10 mil a year on Hill. He is a good coach. They let all of their players get away. Miller for Gooden when Gooden had not proven anything? The reason I don't really care about giving up two draft picks is this, when was the last time the Knicks drafted someone who started on their team? Frank Williams started for a couple of games, but other than that it goes back to CHARLIE WARD. It has been a LONG time. We are talking about the same dumb ass Knicks that picked Frederick Weiss over Ron Artest. When was the last time anyone saw WEiss? when Vince Carter was putting his nuts in his mouth by jumping over him! THe one guy that might hurt out of this trade will be Milas (foreign PG) or Lampe. He is supposed to be a star in like 5 years.