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Old 12-18-2003, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AFC

WR Marvin Harrison Colts 86 rec., 1,153 yds., 10 TDs
WR Chad Johnson Bengals 79 rec., 1,211 yds., 10 TDs
WR Hines Ward Steelers 87 recs, 1,058 yds, 9 TDs
WR Derrick Mason Titans 85 rec, 1,169 yds, 6 TDs
OT Jonathan Ogden Ravens 7th Pro Bowl selection
OT Willie Anderson Bengals 3rd Pro Bowl selection
OT Willie Roaf Chiefs 9th Pro Bowl selection
OG Alan Faneca Steelers 3rd Pro Bowl selection
OG Will Shields Chiefs 9th Pro Bowl selection
OG Ruben Brown Bills 8th Pro Bowl selection
C Kevin Mawae Jets 5th Pro Bowl selection
C Tom Nalen Broncos 5th Pro Bowl selection
TE Tony Gonzalez Chiefs 60 rec., 797, 10 TDs
TE Todd Heap Ravens 55 rec., 678 yds., 3 TDs
QB Peyton Manning Colts 341-505, 3,901 yds, 28 TDs
QB Steve McNair Titans 233-364, 2,947 yds, 22 TDs
QB Trent Green Chiefs 293-458, 3,653 yds, 23 TDs
RB Priest Holmes Chiefs 282 att., 1,315 yds., 22 TDs
RB Jamal Lewis Ravens 338 att., 1,747 yds., 11 TDs
RB Clinton Portis Broncos 290 att., 1,591 yds, 14 TDs
FB Tony Richardson Chiefs 1st Pro Bowl selection

Defense
Pos. Player Team Stats
DE Adewale Ogunleye Dolphins 13 sacks, 4½ tkls for loss
DE Dwight Freeney Colts 11 sacks, 2 tkls for loss
DE Shaun Ellis Jets 62 tkls, 11½ sacks
DT Richard Seymour Patriots 52 tkls, 7½ sacks
DT Marcus Stroud Jags 59 tkls, 4½ sacks
DT Casey Hampton Steelers 35 tkls, 1 sack
OLB Keith Bulluck Titans 121 tkls, 3 sacks
OLB Peter Boulware Ravens 57 tkls, 7½ sacks
OLB Takeo Spikes Bills 108 tkls, 2 sacks
ILB Ray Lewis Ravens 147 tkls, 5 INTs
ILB Zach Thomas Dolphins 132 tkls, 3 INTs
CB Chris McAlister Ravens 11 breakups, 2 INTs
CB Ty Law Patriots 62 tkls, 5 INTs
CB Patrick Surtain Dolphins 7 INTs, 13 pass breakups
SS Ed Reed Ravens 65 tkls, 6 INTs
FS Brock Marion Dolphins 72 tkls, 3 INTs
FS Jerome Woods Chiefs 68 tkls, 3 INTs

Specialist
Pos. Player Team Stats
Punter Craig Hentrich Titans 39.1 avg., 6 touchbacks
Kicker Mike Vanderjagt Colts 34-34 FGs, 42-42 PATs
Returner Dante Hall Chiefs 1,753 total ret. yds, 4 total ret. TDs
Special teamer Adalius Thomas Ravens 1st Pro Bowl selection

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NFC

WR Randy Moss Vikings 99 rec., 1,465 yds., 14 TDs
WR Torry Holt Rams 102 rec., 1,518 yds., 11 TDs
WR Terrell Owens 49ers 79 rec., 1,082 yds, 9 TDs
WR Anquan Boldin Cardinals 86 recs, 1,228 yds, 7 TDs
OT Orlando Pace Rams 5th Pro Bowl selection
OT Flozell Adams Cowboys 1st Pro Bowl selection
OT Walter Jones Seahawks 4th Pro Bowl selection
OG Larry Allen Cowboys 8th Pro Bowl selection
OG LeCharles Bentley Saints 1st Pro Bowl selection
OG Marco Rivera Packers 2nd Pro Bowl selection
C Olin Kreutz Bears 3rdd Pro Bowl selection
C Matt Birk Vikings 3rd Pro Bowl selection
TE Alge Crumpler Falcons 40 recs, 519 yds, 2 TDs
TE Jeremy Shockey Giants 48 recs, 535 yds, 2 TDs
QB Daunte Culpepper Vikings 257-397, 3,022 yds, 21 TDs
QB Donovan McNabb Eagles 235-419, 2,736 yds, 12 TDs
QB Brett Favre Packers 274-420, 2,846 yds, 27 TDs
RB Deuce McAllister Saints 309 att., 1,542 yds, 8 TDs
RB Ahman Green Packers 311 att., 1,538 yds., 12 TDs
RB Stephen Davis Panthers 307 carries, 1,387, 8 TDs
FB Fred Beasley 49ers 1st Pro Bowl selection

Defense
Pos. Player Team Stats
DE Michael Strahan Giants 14 sacks, 5 pass breakups
DE Leonard Little Rams 12 sacks, 1 INT
DE Simeon Rice Bucs 15 sacks, 2 INTs
DT Kris Jenkins Panthers 5 sacks, 9½ tkls for loss
DT La'Roi Glover Cowboys 3 sacks, 5½ tkls for loss
DT Warren Sapp Bucs 34 tkls, 5 sacks
OLB Derrick Brooks Bucs 91 tkls, 2 INTs
OLB Julian Peterson 49ers 5½ sacks, 2 INTs
OLB LaVar Arrington Redskins 5 sacks, 11 pass breakups
ILB Brian Urlacher Bears 100 tkls, 4 pass breakups
ILB Keith Brooking Falcons 117 tkls, 2 pass breakups
CB Dre' Bly Lions 6 INTs, 14 pass breakups
CB Troy Vincent Eagles 3 INTs, 8 pass breakups
CB Champ Bailey Redskins 2 INTs, 8 pass breakups
SS Corey Chavous Vikings 8 INTs, 12 pass breakups
FS Aeneas Williams Rams 4 INTs, 8 pass breakups
FS Roy Williams Cowboys 2 sacks, 2 INTs

Specialist
Pos. Player Team Stats
Punter Todd Sauerbrun Panthers 41.2 net avg., 9 touchbacks
Kicker Jeff Wilkins Rams 35-38 FGs, 41-41 PATs
Returner Jerry Azumah Bears 32 kick rets, 971 yds, 2 TDs
Special teamer Alex Bannister Seahawks 1st Pro Bowl selection
Any comments/obervations/___ should've made it/_____shoudlnt have made it?

I'm surprised Boldin made it as a rookie in the league. I havent watched him much, but i've seen the stats the guy has been putting up.

4 cowboys made the pro bowl. i guess we can call this the parcells effect since all of them were there last year and only 1 made it (?).
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have no idea about when they usually name the teams, but the playoffs haven't even started yet, right? It's a tad early to be naming the best players.
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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8 Ravens in the Pro Bowl, wow.

I think I heard that is a record.
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Seems pretty decent, 5 of my Rams are on the list. I can't think of any major ommisions.
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ugh... Shockey?.. he hasnt played in the last 3 or so games.. and he hasnt really had a good year before that...

heh.. comparing the AFC WR to the NFC WR makes the AFC look puny...
but AFC has the better RB's and Ricky had an off year too
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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heh.. comparing the AFC WR to the NFC WR makes the AFC look puny...
Agreed, but AFC have the better QBs (except for NFC having Favre - Where's Garcia?)
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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lol ur right.. culpepper is overrated, and mcnabb is overrated (no I'm not racist)

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Old 12-18-2003, 07:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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lol ur right.. culpepper is overrated, and mcnabb is overrated (no I'm not racist)

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Old 12-18-2003, 07:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Agreed, but AFC have the better QBs (except for NFC having Favre - Where's Garcia?)
garcia has sucked ass this year. maybe it's the new head coach or something, but he was even out for a couple of games.
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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garcia has sucked ass this year. maybe it's the new head coach or something, but he was even out for a couple of games.
I didn't mean what i said as Garcia has played well, truth be told i haven't payed as much attention to football as i usually do, i just see highlights on Sportscenter.
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Seems pretty decent, 5 of my Rams are on the list. I can't think of any major ommisions.
What about Archuleta? I mean I know he's in the minority of white defensive backs, but he's having a pretty good season.
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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WR Anquan Boldin Cardinals 86 recs, 1,228 yds, 7 TDs
That's some pretty impressive numbers for any WR, let alone a rookie who plays for one of the worst teams in the NFL.

My main concern is the NFC QBs, one can make a case for Matt Hasselbeck replacing any of the current ones.
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Agreed, but AFC have the better QBs (except for NFC having Favre - Where's Garcia?)
Farve has been a great QB over his career, but without Ahman Green, the Packers would've sucked this year. Sorry, but Hasselback had a better year than Farve and probably deserved to go more based on the numbers for this year.
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Again, for the record, Farve doesn't need Green, he needs a decent receiver.

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What about Archuleta? I mean I know he's in the minority of white defensive backs, but he's having a pretty good season.
SS Corey Chavous Vikings 8 INTs, 12 pass breakups - Leads the NFL in INT's
FS Aeneas Williams Rams 4 INTs, 8 pass breakups - Has had a great season, makes the Pro-Bowl because Dawkins was hurt for most of the year.
FS Roy Williams Cowboys 2 sacks, 2 INTs - Has the potential to be one of the best ever.

It's easy to see why Archuleta didn't make the pro-bowl. He's had a decent year, but he isn't even in the top 5 safeties this year.
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I am suprised Charles Woodson didnt make it on to the pro bowl. and i am very suprised that Dante Culpepper made the team over matt hassleback
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Old 12-18-2003, 11:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think David Thornton got a damn rotten deal out of this. He's been anchoring a much improved Indy D all year long and noone gives him any credit.
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Old 12-19-2003, 09:33 AM   #17 (permalink)
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the Pats got stiffed - the Pats were 11-2-1, 7-0-0 at home and 4-2-1 away against the spread whereas Indy was only 9-4-1, 4-3-0 at home and 5-1-1 away...

where's Tomlinson? - Larry Allen? come on!!!
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Old 12-19-2003, 09:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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How was Tom Brady left off of the AFC roster?? Sure, McNair and Manning are more than deserving of their inclusions, but you could argue that Brady is the better QB when compared to Trent Green. Green's success is due, in large part, to being complimented with one of the game's best RBs (Holmes) and best TEs (Gonzalez). Meanwhile, Brady has had a RB by committee with such stalwarts as Mike Cloud, Antwoin Smith, and Kevin Faulk. Lets not forget the numerous injuries to the receiving corps.

I guess this shows how strong the AFC is this year, but LaDainian Tomlinson not making it is mindblowing. Such a versatile back, he has carried the Chargers all year. But, again, who would you take off the list? Priest Holmes? No. Jamal Lewis? No. Clinton Portis? No. Unreal...
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Old 12-19-2003, 05:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That's some pretty impressive numbers for any WR, let alone a rookie who plays for one of the worst teams in the NFL.

My main concern is the NFC QBs, one can make a case for Matt Hasselbeck replacing any of the current ones.

Hass deserves to be there over McNabb who has come on strong late while Hass has slumped but it is a well stated and pointed out fact how many passes let alone TD's the "hawks WR have biffed this year his numbers should be all the more impressive.
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Old 12-19-2003, 09:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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4 dolphins... im actually quite surprised that Jason Taylor didnt make it... and I guess Junior Seau isnt a fan favorite this year cause he didnt make it either... he had a pretty good year...
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Old 12-19-2003, 10:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 12-21-2003, 04:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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And where may I ask is Dat Nguyen? That man got snubbed as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 12-21-2003, 05:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I really don't even care about the pro bowl anymore, it's definitely not even fun to watch. I'd rather watch a "regular" team that has practiced together.
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Old 12-21-2003, 10:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I cannot believe Tomlinson got snubbed.
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Old 12-21-2003, 10:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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And where may I ask is Dat Nguyen? That man got snubbed as far as I'm concerned.
he's a first alternate.
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Old 12-23-2003, 09:00 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Finally! I think that Favre is the best one out there, he's just plain amazing. Last night i watched him pound the hell out of a broken team but the fact is, his father had died the day before. He stepped up and so did Ahman Green and Javon Walker. Good job on the Nfl's part and with Heap at TE and and Moss at WR the team has a good chance at killing the AFC in offense.
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Old 12-23-2003, 11:31 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Heap plays for the AFC...
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Old 12-23-2003, 02:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I would have to agree with present_future about Archuleta.
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Old 12-24-2003, 01:10 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Way to go RAVENS. Now to make the playoffs so they can showcase some of that talent.
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Old 12-25-2003, 06:45 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Dat Nguyen and Rodney Harrison got the snub in my mind. I'm a pats fan, but I can't agree that Brady did. His stats just don't stack up against the QBs that did make it. Poor brady is going to have to be content with super bowl MVP trophys.
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Old 12-26-2003, 08:40 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 12-28-2003, 07:23 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I would have been a little peeved to have not seen Zack Thomas on the list....and I'm glad that Chad J. made it - he's been hot this season.
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Old 12-28-2003, 07:29 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Damn, no Dat Nguyen
im still a little ticked about that one too
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Old 12-28-2003, 08:38 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 02-01-2004, 08:41 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Dat Nguyen and Rodney Harrison got the snub in my mind. I'm a pats fan, but I can't agree that Brady did. His stats just don't stack up against the QBs that did make it. Poor brady is going to have to be content with super bowl MVP trophys.
ok, im something of a dink for reviving this topic, but on the rare occasion that im right I feel i should. no league mvp, no pro-bowl, but a super bowl mvp. again.... I'm a happy person right now.
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