Argh, we need colorado to slow down so the canucks can leapfrog into the #1 spot

Blasphemy! :eek:

hahaha, each to his own

only time will tell

only the leafs and Lord Stanley's Mug will tell

leafs? ugh....

they better hope Belfour stays healthy down the stretch. he should've been in the all-star game in my opinion.

they've got more than Belfour but not in nets Kidd is shit and Telquist is just unproven.

Eddie should of been in the All-Star Game that's for sure

Red Wings beat Avs at Colorado in a game that means something. Let me know when doing anything in the All-Star game counts for anything.




Art

ps I told you Blues fans that you were not worthy...good luck even making the playoffs.

I sense much hate in Artermis

its just a game eh

I'm so glad Holland gave Hasek 6 mil to work out for a year. That money would have been well spent on Robert Lang, but oh no, we get a gimp goalie and alienate the goalie we are taking to the playoffs. Hopefuly he doesn't hold grudges. And I hope to god they don't waste their time with Zhamnov, unless its a 3 way trade with Washington for Lang.

As far as St. Louis goes, I don't see them not making the playoffs, since they only have to shake Calgary and Nashville to get there. Although I am sick of hearing how the loss of 2 "key" defenseman have caused their fall. Jackman is far from key, and alot of teams have had important players lost this season to injury, and are doing fine. If it is true that losing 2 Dmen derails your playoff hopes, you didn't have the depth to go anywhere in playoffs anyway.

Except that the first high-sticking penalty at the end of the third (called on Konowalchuk) was miscalled. It was Kariya, and I can't imagine calling a double minor when you're not sure who committed the penalty. 2 minutes, maybe, but not 4.

Aside from the messiness at the end, it was a good game. Rematch this Saturday.

Colorado vs Detroit games are always awesome to watch.

I dunno why but I've always favoured Detroit to win those games ever since the Claude Lemieux/Kris Draper incident. Can't believe he only got a 2 game suspension because of that. And I remember Dino Ciccerelli was in disbelief saying to himself "I can't believe I shook that guy's (Lemieux's) hand."

Calgary's injury problems have been one of the worst this season.. on our goaltenders (Kiprusoff, Turek, and McLennan have all been injured at some point during the season), our C (Yelle is still out, Conroy was injured, Betts is out for the season.. )

And despite all that, we're still in the hunt.
Go Flames Go!

Injuries look at the Leafs for a team that continued to win even with star players out, talk about adversity

Man if you wanna talk about injuries, just look at the Los Angeles Kings. They've lost almost everyone at one point in the season and are still in the playoff hunt.

Yes, I agree with that. LA has had the worst of the injury problems.

While I agree with you that it was a miss-call, especially since I have Kariya in a Fantasy league and could have used the penalty minutes, the double minor was a must. If they call the highstick, and there is blood, then they have no option but to give out a double minor. That is one of the few rules that is not up to the ref's interpretation.

Still, you'd think that they'd want to give that penalty to the right person.

Also, about the injuries, consider this: At the rate Forsberg has been racking up the points, if he hadn't lost 26 games to injury, he'd be on track for 121 points this season: 42 goals and 79 assists.

For comparison, Naslund, the current NHL points leader, is on track for 98 points.

there are many what if's over the years what if the oilers didnit trade Gretzky, what if Theo Fleury hadn't blown his chances, the point is you can't really judge how well he would have done by how well he has done there are too many things to account for.

I dont have hate...hate means you want something dead...I dislike the Blues because all I heard on the first part of the thread was about the Blues catching the Red WIngs and this and that.

Umm the Red Wings were also hit hard by injuries and they just keep on playing like good squads do.


Art

true good squds persevere

And they are going to have to again. Joseph went down last night with a sprained ankle. This is the very next game after Hasek announced he was done for the year. It's a conspiracy I tell ya, a C-O-N spiracy!

Although, I think Legace should have been given a shot at the #1 spot 2 years ago. So maybe now is his chance.

Hasek is a whiney bum that can't make his damn mind.

Still have to give him credit though. I hope he doesn't play again.... or again..... or again.

I've got a darkhorse to remind you guys of. The Dallas Stars. Yeah, that's right I said it. They're on a tear right now and they have something to prove. I honestly think that the Stars will end up in at least the Western Conference Finals, and perhaps even win it. Marty Turco is playing great, and Mike Modanon looks like he is getting back to his old self again. So watch out now! And don't forget about the Stars.

This is why they got beat by the islanders? (well almost)

I partially agree with this. Right now the Blues biggest problem is offense, or lack of it. In the last 10 games the Blues have only scored 12 goals while giving up 27. In the 10 games before that they scored 26 goals while giving up 28. So defensivly they have gotten slightly better. 17 of the 27 goals came in a 4 game stretch so they're still averaging less than 2 goals a game on most nights. That doesn't mean much though when they are only averaging 1 goal a game themselves.

The part I disagree with is saying Jackman is not a key player. He led the Blues in +/- last year with a +23, played 20+ minutes a game and he and MacInnis were arguably one of the top 5 defensive pairings in the league.

Points are points. Ties happen, it's a fact of hockey, oh, yeah, almost forgot, the Stars are UNBEATEN in the last 8 games.

i can't believe the Leafs traded away another good young player in Ric Jackman for Drake Berehowsky who has had ample chances to find his niche in the league yet continues to suck. John Ferguson Jr. is not doing a good job managing young talent so far, they should of gotten rid of Aki Berg he is easily the worst defenceman in the organization.

Yeah well, the Blues have hit a dry spell......not good when it lasts for 25 games. They have won 2 straight, though, so I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

3 penalties for Berehowsky in his first game and Jackman scored a goal and played a solid game

Holy crap gaborik got a hat trick. And wtf is up with the best play being broduer snagging a shot from park, anyone see brad richards goal by chance tonight against philly? He knocked the puck out of the air with his stick back across the net and behind burke..

Tucker did that the other night against the Pens, it's not really a big deal people do it all the time in Junior and even minor hockey, it's like when that Crosby kid put the puck in from behind the net (a la lacrosse) not a big deal when I played we were practicing that every practice and game, it is really easy try it.

URGH!

I know everyone needs to support their team, etc, but the Canucks have some of the most unreliable goaltending in the league. Unless they trade for Kolzig or Turek or someone else I can't think of right now, they won't go past the second round. Hedberg and Cloutier are average at best.

Detroit, Colorado, New Jersey, Ottawa, Toronto, and Tampa Bay are the only ones I would put any money on in the playoffs. If I had to pick a dark horse (ala Anaheim in 2003), it would either be Boston or Montreal because of their goaltending.

Unreliable goaltending? Are you serious? I know Cloutier and Hedberg aren't both Brodeurs or Turcos but if you compare their seasons to a lot of the other goalies in the league, I'd rather take the Vancouver duo. And I hope to god they never trade for a washed up Kolzig or an even more unreliable Turek.

You wanna talk about what is unreliable with the Canucks right now. Their defense. Absolutely brutal for the past 6-7 games.

As questionable as Cloutier is, I definitely wouldn't trade him for Turek. Not that i want to improve Vancouver's playoff prospects, but I wish they, or some other good team in need of an experienced goalie, could get Denis from CLB. That poor guy is just wasting away there.

Also, I hate to hear Boston being called a darkhorse. They are only 3 points behind the league lead, and have a pretty talented team. The only questionable part of their game is their goaltending, and that is because of Raycroft's lack of playoff experience, not because he hasn't played off his ass during the regular season. I agree with the Tampa Bay pick though. I wouldn't want to be the team to get them in the first round. And if Nashville can somehow sneak in there, watch out, cause they have got nothing to lose.

Being an Ottawa fan, I can tell you a thing or two about unreliable goaltending.
Our backup, Martin Prusek has been looking better than Lalime for most of the season.
The Sens shoulda sent Lalime and a draft pick over to Washington for Kolzig, that would give us a good shot at the cup.

Edited cause I'm dumb.

The Sens need more than goaltending maybe they should start by trying to find some heart.

haha well maybe now that they got Bondra they'll wake up and realize that they have a legitimate shot at the cup this year. If the Canucks don't win it this year, I hope Ottawa does.

The Sens with a legittimate chance how can a team have a legitimate chance when they are totally unproven in the playoffs

I thought Prusek was the Ottawa backup, and yes, he has seemed to outplay Lalime on many occasions. I still think that they are going to have a tough time getting past the Leafs again. Their edgyness always seems to get the best of Ottawa, even though I feel that Ottawa is the more skilled team. And now that Mogilny is coming back, its only going to get tougher.

exactly the leafs know play-off hockey and the Sens add old tough guys like Rob Ray and Simpson, I don't know about Ottawa having the more skilled team, they have some good players but not on the level that the Leafs do, but I also am biased towards Toronto.