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Baldrick · 12-13-2003, 10:52 AM

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/news_story.asp?id=64185

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Right back at ya: Red Sox ink Foulke

TSN.ca Staff with files

12/13/2003

The Boston Red Sox have secured a closer for the 2004 season and beyond, signing Keith Foulke to a three-year, $21 million contact on Saturday.

Foulke was mulling offers from the Red Sox and the Athletics, for whom he went 9-1 with a 2.08 ERA and 43 saves last season.

Boston's pursuit of Foulke, who made $6 million US in 2003, is in contrast to last season, when the team tried to build a bullpen without a closer rather than overpay for someone who didn't fit the role.

Boston GM Theo Epstein said he talked with about seven other teams on the first day of baseball's winter meetings, mostly laying the early groundwork for possible deals. In addition to filling out its bullpen, Boston is looking for a starting second baseman and a variety of bench players.

Wow, that taste of the post-season really lit the fire under the Red Sox this off season! This is a fantastic signing for them, and makes it tough not to argue they may have the best overall pitching staff in baseball now.

This really doesn't bode well for my Blue Jays though, because the Red Sox and Yankees have really escalated their pissing contest this year, and the Orioles seems ready to throw money at some high profile free agents like Guerrero. I like what the Jays have done this off season too, but it's going to be tough enough just to finish third in the division next season.

NickKell · 12-13-2003, 08:34 PM

That's all fine and dandy, but all I want for Christmas is A-Rod under my tree.

Hrothgar · 12-13-2003, 08:39 PM

I think A-Rod stays in Texas. The Rangers want Boston to pay for everything but the kitchen sink and even that is negotiable.

celebfan · 12-13-2003, 09:06 PM

Well, considering the last rumor I heard was a three-way deal with Phillt that had Nomar and Trot Nixon going to Philly, Jimmy Rollins and Manny going to Texas, and A-Rod and Abreu going to Boston, I think the Sohx would be just fine staying put at this point. They got another ace in Schilling, solid closer in Foulke, why tinker with an already potent offense? A-Rod for Manny straight up is a no-brainer, but having to give away more is not wise.

thephuse · 12-15-2003, 08:50 PM

Speaking as an avid Yankee fan... I really hope that the Red Sox DO get A-Rod. As much as i respect A-Rod and his abilities.. he is still the most overpaid person in the world.

Also... If you actually think about it... Nomar can make almost any play A-Rod can make at SS and A-Rod's 3-5 at bats a game cant be better than Manny and Nomar's 6-10 at bats a game. Manny and Nomar combined will provide more chances for HR, RBI, and makes more threat so pitchers cant pitch around just one guy.

besides.. who's gonna play left field? (even tho.. its not as if Manny plays neways

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I do have to say... Schilling hurt bad... and losing Andy made it hurt even more... It'll be a good season next year... w00h00

celebfan · 12-17-2003, 07:25 AM

New rumor, courtesy Newsday (NY): Nomar to Chicago White Sox for Magglio Ordonez, contingen on the A-Rod/Manny deal going through.

bryan2766 · 12-18-2003, 04:10 AM

Yes and Ordonez + A-rod have MUCH more stacked #'s than Manny and Nomar have ever...

aswo · 12-18-2003, 12:55 PM

I don't know, a rod and ordonez good lord that is killer!

BigBlueWrecking · 12-18-2003, 01:13 PM

Yes, but it does not appear either deal will get done. The Red Sox have tried to change ARod's contract and the union rejected it. The deal may still happen, but it got a lot less likely.

absorbentishe · 12-18-2003, 02:20 PM

I hate the sox, but it will be a huge mistake to get rid of nomar. He is the blood life of the sox. He should move to 3, or A-Rod should move to third, and keep nomar, one of the best hitters in baseball. It would be ashame if he was traded too.

thephuse · 12-18-2003, 04:15 PM

well.. if this deal DOESNT get done now... Red Sox are past the point of damage control.. they are going to HAVE to move Manny and Nomar any way possible.. so this trade better work out for them

dragon2fire · 12-18-2003, 05:13 PM

go cubs

o yea that is a real god move for the red socks

thephuse · 12-18-2003, 07:39 PM

hahahahaahahahahahahhahaaha

i hope this deal goes sour

(btw.. A-Rod is the new ass of baseball)

now if this deal dies.. Nomar, Manny unhappy
If Pedro doesnt get an extension soon after Schlling got this 3-4 yr deal, HE wont be happy

Dumb Millar said publicly that he'd rather play with A-Rod than Nomar (yes, listen to Mr. Millar, perennial all-star)

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whereas if the deal DOES go through, A-Rod is a bosux...

Magglio, Damon, Pedro, Shilling, Lowe will ALL be gone in the next 1-3 yrs... and it'll Arlington in Beantown.

funny how just 2 days ago boston was nirvana, now the curse is back

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i say yanks should sign nomar as 3B next year, just another Bosux that was done wrong by the dumb management, and who knows? another curse?

you know the old saying, 2 curses are better than 1

bryan2766 · 12-19-2003, 02:38 AM

The Yankees fucking blow, man you're a true fan if you even like them. Yankees/jets blow more cock than a pornstar... go BOSOX AND PATRIOTS you Yankee lover you.. The deal WILL go down, and they will be better.. the DELETED yankees are already shitting their pants even WITHOUT arod/ordonez.

Are you trying to talk about payroll.. you're a DELETED, the yankee DELETED can't even beat a 50mill team.. when they are 180 mill hahahaa... the sox will destroy them and still be under 150 mill.. nice try DELETED.

have a nice day - hanxter

dylanmarsh · 12-19-2003, 07:06 AM

bryan2766: watch the f-bombs, dude; you sound as ignorant as a Yankee fan in the bleachers.

Any how, if the Sox get "stuck" with Nomar and Manny for the season, I don't see it being as big of a deal as Gammons and Stark are making it to be. I think Manny and Nomar know that if they want to win, they need to be Boston and not Texas or Chicago. I must say, though, I like the concept of Ordonez and A-rod coming to beantown; two guys who have never really been on a contender and would probably thrive in the situation. Manny's been on the Cleveland teams that made the World Series and, of course, last year's Sox team who should have been in the Series. I think Manny is a spoiled and arrogant shit who should be playing for the Devil Rays to give him a taste of reality.

With everything that has happened in the last month, I think next year is shaping up to be the final run for the Sox barring any major moves. I seriously doubt Nomar and Pedro will stick around after next season. With that said, the Sox would free up nearly $25M between the two of them gone. Hmmmmm..... what could the Sox get for $25M? Hmmmmmmm....

Hanxter · 12-19-2003, 09:02 AM

in my opinion A-Rod signed with the devil - i say that due to the fact he went for the $$$ and not the win - should he remain with the Rangers he'll never get a ring and he now knows that he sold his chances - the devil BTW is none other than Selig and his little "wanna be commish" Orza...

Averett · 12-19-2003, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by dylanmarsh
bryan2766: watch the f-bombs, dude; you sound as ignorant as a Yankee fan in the bleachers.

Ha! Awesome!

I've been to Yankee Stadium a few times (I HATE the Yanks) and sat in the bleachers once. I lost a bet and had to take a friend to the game, so I got bleacher seats. Took the cheap way out

But I had such a blast! The fans up there are nuts. Absolutly nuts. I tried to keep quiet on my Yankee hatred though, I didn't want to get killed.

thephuse · 12-19-2003, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by bryan2766
The Yankees fucking blow, man you're a true fan if you even like them. Yankees/jets blow more cock than a pornstar... go BOSOX AND PATRIOTS you Yankee lover you.. The deal WILL go down, and they will be better.. the DELETED yankees are already shitting their pants even WITHOUT arod/ordonez.

Are you trying to talk about payroll.. you're a DELETED, the yankee DELETED can't even beat a 50mill team.. when they are 180 mill hahahaa... the sox will destroy them and still be under 150 mill.. nice try DELETED.

have a nice day - hanxter

lol.. what can i say?... except... chill

Hanxter · 12-19-2003, 02:08 PM

edited dude - what he said was...

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dylanmarsh · 12-19-2003, 03:38 PM

nice job with the editing, Hanxter. LOL

BigBlueWrecking · 12-19-2003, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by bryan2766
The Yankees fucking blow, man you're a true fan if you even like them. Yankees/jets blow more cock than a pornstar... go BOSOX AND PATRIOTS you Yankee lover you.. The deal WILL go down, and they will be better.. the DELETED yankees are already shitting their pants even WITHOUT arod/ordonez.

Are you trying to talk about payroll.. you're a DELETED, the yankee DELETED can't even beat a 50mill team.. when they are 180 mill hahahaa... the sox will destroy them and still be under 150 mill.. nice try DELETED.

have a nice day - hanxter

Coming from a Yankee fan, just relax. It is not the Yankee's fault they own the Red Sox. When you guys win (if I should say) you can talk all the crap you want.

Hanxter · 12-20-2003, 09:02 AM

another thing a lot of folks don't realize is that with the size of A-Rod's contract he stands to lose $14M in Massachusetts income tax whereas Texas doesn't have one

monkeydriven · 12-23-2003, 02:34 PM

A Rod deal needs to get done...how can the Sox expect Nomar and Manny to come back now? Without them, they will be hurting...

12-13-2003, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	I think A-Rod stays in Texas. The Rangers want Boston to pay for everything but the kitchen sink and even that is negotiable. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.

12-13-2003, 09:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
celebfan Psycho Location: New York	Well, considering the last rumor I heard was a three-way deal with Phillt that had Nomar and Trot Nixon going to Philly, Jimmy Rollins and Manny going to Texas, and A-Rod and Abreu going to Boston, I think the Sohx would be just fine staying put at this point. They got another ace in Schilling, solid closer in Foulke, why tinker with an already potent offense? A-Rod for Manny straight up is a no-brainer, but having to give away more is not wise. __________________ "Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something." -- The Princess Bride

12-15-2003, 08:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
thephuse Psycho Location: NY	Speaking as an avid Yankee fan... I really hope that the Red Sox DO get A-Rod. As much as i respect A-Rod and his abilities.. he is still the most overpaid person in the world. Also... If you actually think about it... Nomar can make almost any play A-Rod can make at SS and A-Rod's 3-5 at bats a game cant be better than Manny and Nomar's 6-10 at bats a game. Manny and Nomar combined will provide more chances for HR, RBI, and makes more threat so pitchers cant pitch around just one guy. besides.. who's gonna play left field? (even tho.. its not as if Manny plays neways ) I do have to say... Schilling hurt bad... and losing Andy made it hurt even more... It'll be a good season next year... w00h00 __________________ b000yahed up your w000pah!! Joygasm~!!

12-17-2003, 07:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
celebfan Psycho Location: New York	New rumor, courtesy Newsday (NY): Nomar to Chicago White Sox for Magglio Ordonez, contingen on the A-Rod/Manny deal going through. __________________ "Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something." -- The Princess Bride

12-18-2003, 12:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
aswo Crazy	I don't know, a rod and ordonez good lord that is killer! __________________ People who love people

12-13-2003, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
NickKell Insane	That's all fine and dandy, but all I want for Christmas is A-Rod under my tree.

12-18-2003, 04:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
bryan2766 Crazy Location: East Tenn	Yes and Ordonez + A-rod have MUCH more stacked #'s than Manny and Nomar have ever...

12-18-2003, 01:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigBlueWrecking Psycho	Yes, but it does not appear either deal will get done. The Red Sox have tried to change ARod's contract and the union rejected it. The deal may still happen, but it got a lot less likely.

12-18-2003, 02:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
absorbentishe Boy am I horny today Location: T O L E D O, Toledo!!	I hate the sox, but it will be a huge mistake to get rid of nomar. He is the blood life of the sox. He should move to 3, or A-Rod should move to third, and keep nomar, one of the best hitters in baseball. It would be ashame if he was traded too.

12-18-2003, 04:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
thephuse Psycho Location: NY	well.. if this deal DOESNT get done now... Red Sox are past the point of damage control.. they are going to HAVE to move Manny and Nomar any way possible.. so this trade better work out for them __________________ b000yahed up your w000pah!! Joygasm~!!

12-18-2003, 05:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
dragon2fire Junkie	go cubs o yea that is a real god move for the red socks

12-18-2003, 07:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
thephuse Psycho Location: NY	hahahahaahahahahahahhahaaha i hope this deal goes sour (btw.. A-Rod is the new ass of baseball) now if this deal dies.. Nomar, Manny unhappy If Pedro doesnt get an extension soon after Schlling got this 3-4 yr deal, HE wont be happy Dumb Millar said publicly that he'd rather play with A-Rod than Nomar (yes, listen to Mr. Millar, perennial all-star) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- whereas if the deal DOES go through, A-Rod is a bosux... Magglio, Damon, Pedro, Shilling, Lowe will ALL be gone in the next 1-3 yrs... and it'll Arlington in Beantown. funny how just 2 days ago boston was nirvana, now the curse is back -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i say yanks should sign nomar as 3B next year, just another Bosux that was done wrong by the dumb management, and who knows? another curse? you know the old saying, 2 curses are better than 1 __________________ b000yahed up your w000pah!! Joygasm~!!

12-19-2003, 02:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
bryan2766 Crazy Location: East Tenn	The Yankees fucking blow, man you're a true fan if you even like them. Yankees/jets blow more cock than a pornstar... go BOSOX AND PATRIOTS you Yankee lover you.. The deal WILL go down, and they will be better.. the DELETED yankees are already shitting their pants even WITHOUT arod/ordonez. Are you trying to talk about payroll.. you're a DELETED, the yankee DELETED can't even beat a 50mill team.. when they are 180 mill hahahaa... the sox will destroy them and still be under 150 mill.. nice try DELETED. have a nice day - hanxter Last edited by Hanxter; 12-19-2003 at 08:54 AM..

12-19-2003, 07:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
dylanmarsh Sleepy Head	bryan2766: watch the f-bombs, dude; you sound as ignorant as a Yankee fan in the bleachers. Any how, if the Sox get "stuck" with Nomar and Manny for the season, I don't see it being as big of a deal as Gammons and Stark are making it to be. I think Manny and Nomar know that if they want to win, they need to be Boston and not Texas or Chicago. I must say, though, I like the concept of Ordonez and A-rod coming to beantown; two guys who have never really been on a contender and would probably thrive in the situation. Manny's been on the Cleveland teams that made the World Series and, of course, last year's Sox team who should have been in the Series. I think Manny is a spoiled and arrogant shit who should be playing for the Devil Rays to give him a taste of reality. With everything that has happened in the last month, I think next year is shaping up to be the final run for the Sox barring any major moves. I seriously doubt Nomar and Pedro will stick around after next season. With that said, the Sox would free up nearly $25M between the two of them gone. Hmmmmm..... what could the Sox get for $25M? Hmmmmmmm....

12-19-2003, 09:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	in my opinion A-Rod signed with the devil - i say that due to the fact he went for the $$$ and not the win - should he remain with the Rangers he'll never get a ring and he now knows that he sold his chances - the devil BTW is none other than Selig and his little "wanna be commish" Orza...

12-19-2003, 02:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	edited dude - what he said was... *DELETED* *DELETED* *DELETED* *DELETED*

12-19-2003, 03:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
dylanmarsh Sleepy Head	nice job with the editing, Hanxter. LOL

12-20-2003, 09:02 AM	#22 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	another thing a lot of folks don't realize is that with the size of A-Rod's contract he stands to lose $14M in Massachusetts income tax whereas Texas doesn't have one

12-23-2003, 02:34 PM	#23 (permalink)
monkeydriven Addict Location: Boston	A Rod deal needs to get done...how can the Sox expect Nomar and Manny to come back now? Without them, they will be hurting... __________________ you think i got my eyes closed but i've been lookin' at you the whole f&ckin' time... ------------------------------------------------ Posting from the home of the 2004 World Champion Boston Red Sox