Where will Schilling land? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

goppers · 11-24-2003, 09:38 PM

If im not mistaken he said he was pretty sure he wouldn't be in Arizona next season, and right now it looks like it will be one of three teams: the Phils, the Yanks or the Sox.

so, who is it going to be. It looks like boston is making the push right now, but can they really afford him? What would signing him do to their free agents mess next year (pedro, lowe, vtek, nomar, trot)?

it looks like it's going to take at least two years, maybe more to get schilling, who is going to offer it.

personally i want to see either the phils or the sox get him, then i hope george blows his lid. that's always fun.

Kurant · 11-24-2003, 11:43 PM

I'm biased, and by some stroke of godly luck.. CHICAGO!

JohnnyRock · 11-25-2003, 07:06 AM

well all he needs to do is agree to an extension and he is with the Sox...although. I wold never count the Yankees out of anything...and if they don't get him and the sox do, I expect The Boss to go out re-sign pettite, sign colon and Vlad and maybe even snag Javier Vasquez...:-(

djtestudo · 11-25-2003, 07:10 AM

I doubt the Yankees want anything to do with the D-backs now after Colangelo publically stated he wanted Soriano and Johnson for Schilling.

Seems likely to me theres a three-way deal with Milwaukee where they get some prospects form the D-backs (along with some from the Sox, maybe) for Richie Sexon.

RHix613 · 11-25-2003, 07:37 AM

From what I've heard, he will end up anywhere HE wants. The no trade clause will assure him of that.

dragon2fire · 11-25-2003, 09:21 AM

i would love to see him in chichago but i dobt i will happen

Rhix is right were ever he wants

onetime2 · 11-25-2003, 10:05 AM

Red Sox.

Hanxter · 11-25-2003, 12:41 PM

in a British cash register???

reconmike · 11-25-2003, 04:43 PM

The deal with the bosox is all but signed, dbacks get fossum, and 2 minors.
Then the sox will get foulke.

Georgie porgie will have a stroke.( i hope there is video)

dylanmarsh · 11-27-2003, 09:11 PM

It is interesting how Epstein is dictating the moves this offseason rather than Steinbrenner and Cashman. I think Schilling will end up in Beantown, Vlad in Baltimore, Pettite somewhere in the Texas borders, and Sheffield in the Bronx. These all seem likely destinations for these folks.

What WILL be interesting is what the BoSox do with Nomar and Manny. I would hate to see Nomar leave, but other great Red Sox have left and the city has moved on and forgiven the Sox; remember Fisk, Clemens, Boggs, Lynn, etc, etc. I just don't see how the Sox will be able to retain Nixon, Varitek, Lowe, Pedro, Ortiz, and Mueller after next season. I read somewhere that the Sox also have to deal with arbitration with some of these folks soon; Ortiz was on the list, if I remember right.

When it comes down to it, though, pitching, defense, and speed win the World Series nowadays. Schilling and Foulke would be a great step in that direction; keeping Manny and Nomar would not. Luis Castillo would be a definite step in the right direction, too, both speed wise and defensively. Question is, would Steinbrenner let him go to Boston. The other question, too, is can the Sox find the money to bring him in and still keep under the luxury tax bullshit.

Just imagine this rotation for next season:

1a. Pedro
1b. Schilling
3. Lowe
4. Wakefield
5. Arroyo

To go with this lineup:

Damon CF
Castillo 2b
Nixon RF
Arod SS
Ortiz DH
Millar 1B
Vartiek C
Mueller 3B
Kapler LF

Granted Manny will be missed, but I don't see much of a loss in this projected lineup from last year, assuming the role players from last season step-up, again.

You gotta love what Epstein is doing for the Red Sox nation: a month after losing a heartbreaker to the Yankees and were already rabidly focused on next year; usually, I'm still depressed and taking swings at my 8 year old cousin who loves Jeter.

Hrothgar · 11-27-2003, 09:16 PM

Schilling seems to be in bed with the Red Sox but I think he is waiting to see if the Yankees come callng.

goppers · 11-29-2003, 07:54 PM

good post dylanmarsh.

I agree on everything of substance in your post. Two minor things i disagree on are that I don't really think the sox are in on Castillo, but I could be wrong. I also want to see Kim as the #5 starter. He just has too good of an arm even though he is a head case. I just feel they may be able to work with a 24 year old head case.

the only other thing that worries me with the possible nomar,manny/arod trade is giving up the 3 4 punch in the line-up. Maybe I'm worrying about it too much. and against righties trot basically is nomar, but it's still in my mind. Also if ortiz is what he was the second half of last season, then Arod would have pleanty of protection. oh shrug. No matter who the #5 starter is next year Boston should have the best rotation in baseball.

11-24-2003, 09:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
goppers Tilted	Where will Schilling land? If im not mistaken he said he was pretty sure he wouldn't be in Arizona next season, and right now it looks like it will be one of three teams: the Phils, the Yanks or the Sox. so, who is it going to be. It looks like boston is making the push right now, but can they really afford him? What would signing him do to their free agents mess next year (pedro, lowe, vtek, nomar, trot)? it looks like it's going to take at least two years, maybe more to get schilling, who is going to offer it. personally i want to see either the phils or the sox get him, then i hope george blows his lid. that's always fun.

11-25-2003, 07:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
JohnnyRock Addict Location: Taxachussetts	well all he needs to do is agree to an extension and he is with the Sox...although. I wold never count the Yankees out of anything...and if they don't get him and the sox do, I expect The Boss to go out re-sign pettite, sign colon and Vlad and maybe even snag Javier Vasquez...:-( __________________ Not only do I not know the answer...I don't even know what the question is!!!

11-25-2003, 07:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	I doubt the Yankees want anything to do with the D-backs now after Colangelo publically stated he wanted Soriano and Johnson for Schilling. Seems likely to me theres a three-way deal with Milwaukee where they get some prospects form the D-backs (along with some from the Sox, maybe) for Richie Sexon. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

11-25-2003, 10:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
onetime2 Junkie Location: NJ	Red Sox. __________________ Strive to be more curious than ignorant.

11-25-2003, 04:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
reconmike Thank You Jesus Location: Twilight Zone	The deal with the bosox is all but signed, dbacks get fossum, and 2 minors. Then the sox will get foulke. Georgie porgie will have a stroke.( i hope there is video) __________________ Where is Darwin when ya need him?

11-24-2003, 11:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kurant Junkie Location: Don't worry about it.	I'm biased, and by some stroke of godly luck.. CHICAGO!

11-25-2003, 07:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
RHix613 Tilted	From what I've heard, he will end up anywhere HE wants. The no trade clause will assure him of that.

11-25-2003, 09:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
dragon2fire Junkie	i would love to see him in chichago but i dobt i will happen Rhix is right were ever he wants

11-25-2003, 12:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	in a British cash register???

11-27-2003, 09:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
dylanmarsh Sleepy Head	It is interesting how Epstein is dictating the moves this offseason rather than Steinbrenner and Cashman. I think Schilling will end up in Beantown, Vlad in Baltimore, Pettite somewhere in the Texas borders, and Sheffield in the Bronx. These all seem likely destinations for these folks. What WILL be interesting is what the BoSox do with Nomar and Manny. I would hate to see Nomar leave, but other great Red Sox have left and the city has moved on and forgiven the Sox; remember Fisk, Clemens, Boggs, Lynn, etc, etc. I just don't see how the Sox will be able to retain Nixon, Varitek, Lowe, Pedro, Ortiz, and Mueller after next season. I read somewhere that the Sox also have to deal with arbitration with some of these folks soon; Ortiz was on the list, if I remember right. When it comes down to it, though, pitching, defense, and speed win the World Series nowadays. Schilling and Foulke would be a great step in that direction; keeping Manny and Nomar would not. Luis Castillo would be a definite step in the right direction, too, both speed wise and defensively. Question is, would Steinbrenner let him go to Boston. The other question, too, is can the Sox find the money to bring him in and still keep under the luxury tax bullshit. Just imagine this rotation for next season: 1a. Pedro 1b. Schilling 3. Lowe 4. Wakefield 5. Arroyo To go with this lineup: Damon CF Castillo 2b Nixon RF Arod SS Ortiz DH Millar 1B Vartiek C Mueller 3B Kapler LF Granted Manny will be missed, but I don't see much of a loss in this projected lineup from last year, assuming the role players from last season step-up, again. You gotta love what Epstein is doing for the Red Sox nation: a month after losing a heartbreaker to the Yankees and were already rabidly focused on next year; usually, I'm still depressed and taking swings at my 8 year old cousin who loves Jeter.

11-27-2003, 09:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	Schilling seems to be in bed with the Red Sox but I think he is waiting to see if the Yankees come callng. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.

11-29-2003, 07:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
goppers Tilted	good post dylanmarsh. I agree on everything of substance in your post. Two minor things i disagree on are that I don't really think the sox are in on Castillo, but I could be wrong. I also want to see Kim as the #5 starter. He just has too good of an arm even though he is a head case. I just feel they may be able to work with a 24 year old head case. the only other thing that worries me with the possible nomar,manny/arod trade is giving up the 3 4 punch in the line-up. Maybe I'm worrying about it too much. and against righties trot basically is nomar, but it's still in my mind. Also if ortiz is what he was the second half of last season, then Arod would have pleanty of protection. oh shrug. No matter who the #5 starter is next year Boston should have the best rotation in baseball.