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Averett · 11-24-2003, 04:02 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...bbo_obit_spahn

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Hall of Famer Warren Spahn Dies at 82

By CLAYTON BELLAMY, Associated Press Writer

BROKEN ARROW, Okla. - Warren Spahn, the Hall of Fame pitcher who won more games than any other left-hander in history, died Monday. He was 82.

Spahn died at his home, family friend Gary Caruso said.

Spahn was the mainstay of the Braves' pitching staff for two decades, first in Boston and then in Milwaukee. He pitched for 21 seasons, winning 363 games and posting 20 or more victories 13 times.

The remarkable part was that he was 25 before he got his first major league win.

"Warren Spahn was a fighter and a winner," said New York Yankees (news) manager Joe Torre, a former teammate. "He made catching in the big leagues a lot easier for me because he took me under his wing along with Lew Burdette. One of my biggest thrills to this day was catching his 300th victory in 1961."

Spahn started his baseball career in his hometown of Buffalo, playing first base while his father played third for the Buffalo Lake City Athletic Club. He wanted to play first in high school but his team already had an all-city player at that position. So Spahn switched to pitching.

He signed with the Braves in 1940 for $80 a month and injured his arm twice in his first season of D-level ball. But he won 19 games the next season and was invited to spring training with the Braves.

He started the 1942 season with the Braves but was sent down by manager Casey Stengel, who was angry because the left-hander refused to brush back Pee Wee Reese in an exhibition game. Spahn went 17-12 with a 1.96 ERA average at Hartford that season while the Braves finished in seventh place. Stengel called farming Spahn out the worst mistake he ever made.

In 1943, Spahn went into the Army. He served in Europe, where he was wounded, decorated for bravery with a Bronze Star and Purple Heart and was awarded a battlefield commission. He fought at the Battle of the Bulge and in the battle for the bridge at Remagen, Germany, where many men in his company were lost.

Spahn returned to baseball in 1946, and had an 8-5 record for the Braves.

The next season, he emerged as one of baseball's best pitchers with a 21-10 record. He led the NL with a 2.33 ERA and became part of a pitching partnership with Johnny Sain that took Boston to the NL pennant the next year. Because of the Braves' thin staff, Boston's pitching was described as "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain."

Starting in 1947, Spahn won 20 or more games in 13 of the next 17 seasons. Only Christy Mathewson had as many 20-win seasons in the NL. Strangely, one of the years he missed that plateau was 1948, when he was 15-12 as the Braves won their first pennant since 1914.

Equipped with a high-kicking delivery that baffled batters, Spahn became a dominant pitcher after that season, a consistent 20-game winner. Only once between 1953 and 1961 did he fail to win 20 games.

Spahn led the NL in victories eight times, including five in a row from 1957-61, and led the league in strikeouts from 1949-52.

He once said, "When I'm pitching, I feel I'm down to the essentials — two men with one challenge between them."

He usually won that challenge.

Spahn led the league in complete games nine times, including seven in a row from 1957-63. For his career, he completed 382 of 665 starts and had 2,583 strikeouts.

He led the Braves to pennants with 21 wins in 1957 and 22 in 1958 — their first two seasons in Milwaukee — and then won 21 games in each of the next three seasons.

He was 23-7 and led the league with a 2.10 ERA in 1953 at age 32 and then matched that a decade later when he was 42, going 23-7 again in 1963, this time with a 2.60 ERA.

That was his last great season. A year later, he went 6-13 and then finished up in 1965, splitting the season between the New York Mets (news) and San Francisco Giants (news) and winning seven games. He then pitched in Mexico and the minors before finally retiring in 1967 at the age of 46.

When he was criticized for pitching that long, Spahn said, "I don't care what the public thinks. I'm pitching because I enjoy pitching."

That left him with a career record of 363-245 and a 3.09 ERA. He won the 1957 Cy Young Award and was second three times. He made 14 All-Star teams, threw two no-hitters and holds the NL record for home runs by a pitcher with 35.

Spahn was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1973, his first year of eligibility.

Arrangements were being handled by the Floral Haven funeral home in Broken Arrow.

Just sad

I'm a big Braves fan so it's sad to see a legend pass away.

JoeyB · 11-24-2003, 06:00 PM

It's strange that his name isn't mentioned among the greats as often as it should be.

captain · 11-25-2003, 05:56 AM

This was a pitcher who always gave you nine innings-not like the seven you get today. He was a real baseball player.

grumpyolddude · 11-25-2003, 03:01 PM

"Spahn and Sain, then pray for rain!"

Rest peacefully, Warren!

Speed_Gibson · 11-25-2003, 05:35 PM

never heard him or almost everyone else mentioned in the quoted article before yesterday but sounds like quite a loss.

Averett · 11-25-2003, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Speed_Gibson
never heard him or almost everyone else mentioned in the quoted article before yesterday but sounds like quite a loss.

I don't mean to be rude, but do you live under a rock? I'm a girl and I knew of him. But my dad is a big baseball fan so I guess there is that....

I dunno, I just find it weird when people haven't heard of the obvious greats.

Speed_Gibson · 11-26-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Averett
I don't mean to be rude, but do you live under a rock? I'm a girl and I knew of him. But my dad is a big baseball fan so I guess there is that....

I dunno, I just find it weird when people haven't heard of the obvious greats.

I have no taste for baseball at all and never have followed it along with hockey, football, NFL, nascar, and most nearly everything else beside basketball. This would be the main reason I very rarely post here.
Have slept through or read several hundred pages when I was forced to go to games at Candlestick Park, Kingdome, and whatever stadium the Rangers played in at Texas (Nolan Ryan pitched if memory serves). Joe Torre was the only name in that entire article that I knew at all. I do know the obvious ones like George "Babe" Ruth, Lou Gerigh, Ted Williams and some of those names.

11-24-2003, 06:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	It's strange that his name isn't mentioned among the greats as often as it should be. __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

11-25-2003, 05:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
captain Crazy	This was a pitcher who always gave you nine innings-not like the seven you get today. He was a real baseball player. __________________ captain

11-25-2003, 03:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	"Spahn and Sain, then pray for rain!" Rest peacefully, Warren! __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard

11-25-2003, 05:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Speed_Gibson Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Location: right here of course	never heard him or almost everyone else mentioned in the quoted article before yesterday but sounds like quite a loss. __________________ Started talking to yourself I see. Yes, it's the only way I can be certain of an intelligent conversation. Black Adder