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Old 11-18-2003, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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TFP CFB Top 20 11/18/03

With ***NINE*** votes

1) Oklahoma (9) 180
2) USC 164
3) Ohio State 155
4) LSU 153
5) Michigan 144
6) Georgia 119
7) Tennessee 114
8) Washington 110
9) Texas 97
10) Florida State 89
11) TCU 87
12) Miami FL 66
13) Florida 61
14) Viriginia Tech 60
15) Ole Miss 55
16) Miami OH 54
17) Purdue 52
18 tie) Kansas State 28
18 tie) Iowa 28
20) Pittsburgh 21

Also receiving votes: Oklahoma State 18, Boise State 16, Nebraska 13, Arkansas 4, Toledo 1, Utah 1

Interesting Facts:
- TCU was left off of two ballots. Probably because they've played a schedule easier than K-State.

- Texas was left off of one ballot, AND IT WASN'T MINE THIS TIME! *Points to bond007*

- Miami FL was left off one ballot (mine, they've turned into whiney bitches and will struggle with every game now because Coker is benching everyone)

- Miami OH was left off one ballot (see TCU comment)

- Florida was left off one ballot (Mr. I-Can-Make-A-Better-BCS-Roadrage)
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Old 11-18-2003, 10:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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takes credit for leaving TCU & Miami (OH) out of his ballot

I'm sorry, but any other team in the top 20 can KILL and then KILL again these 2 teams.
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Old 11-19-2003, 04:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Florida is 7-3 against I-A teams, the worst record of anyone in the TFP Top 20. Say what you will about TCU's schedule (and I had them #11 BTW), at least they've beaten 10 I-A teams. Florida came up #21, in case you really care.

Apparently I wasn't the only one with Florida State above Miami FL despite the Seminole loss to them.

LSU's BCS SOS is #72, Mississippi's is #57, and Virginia Tech's is #56, while Miami OH's is #55. Who has had the easier schedule?
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Old 11-19-2003, 06:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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LSU's BCS SOS is #72, Mississippi's is #57, and Virginia Tech's is #56, while Miami OH's is #55. Who has had the easier schedule?
Ya took the words right out of my mouth, RoadRage.

The Dude, I think that you should consider SOS when voting, because while your point is certainly valid about TCU, Miami OH has played alot better schedule than some of the others you voted for.

Some observations:
1. USC tops Ohio State, and Ohio State barely nips LSU for fourth.
2. TCU settles into the middle of the two loss club.
3. Noone gave any love to West Virginia. Some bad football was played this year in the Big East.
4. Utah makes another appearance - I've seen them play (on TV) several times this year. They are a nice little ball club.
5. I wonder how long its been since at least one Florida school hasn't been in the top ten in the AP poll? Probably never happened in the TFP rankings. Some bowl losses and this could be a possibility.
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Old 11-19-2003, 02:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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- Texas was left off of one ballot, AND IT WASN'T MINE THIS TIME! *Points to bond007*
they would've been in my "ranked 21 thru 25 category".
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Old 11-19-2003, 04:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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sure florida has lost to 3 1A teams and TCU to none, so TCU has had a better season. But we are not ranking 'best seasons,' we are ranking best teams. Florida has really gelled under leak and is a quality team now, best in the state in my opinion, and we shall see against FSU
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Old 11-19-2003, 05:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That's behind TCU, Miami OH, Boise State, and a few others. Thats a bold statement.

Also, the "they've beaten __ Div I-A teams" doesn't hold much water. Why? Because I grew up in Idaho, I've seen what a joke the Idaho Vandals are, and they are Div I-A. It doesn't take much to be a Div I-A team, and being able to beat __ Div I-A teams doesn't speak a lot.

Need more proof? Then lets talk schedules. Lets assume 28 points is qualified as a blowout.

Tulane 38-35
Navy 17-3
Vanderbilt 30-14
Arizona 13-10
Army 27-0
South Florida 13-10
UAB 27-24
Houston 62-55
Louisville 31-28
Cincinnati 43-10 BLOWOUT

UL-Monroe 49-7 BLOWOUT
Arizona 59-13 BLOWOUT (not 3 points)
Western Illinois 35-7 BLOWOUT
Georgia 17-10 TOP 10 TEAM
Mississippi State 41-6 BLOWOUT
Florida 7-19 loss to top 25 team
South Carolina 33-7
Auburn 31-7
Louisiana Tech 49-10 BLOWOUT
Alabama 27-3

5 blowouts to 1. LSU wins.

Now, lets do a count. Georgia, Florida, Auburn, Alabama. All teams that could beat TCU, the first three doing so easily. Anyone have any evidence to prove otherwise? Nope, because TCU hasn't played anyone.
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Old 11-20-2003, 06:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What about West Virginia? Started out bad I know....but have big wins over Virginia Tech and Pitt, and if it wasn't for a last second field goal by Miami, would've beat Miami. They finally have it clicking on all parts of the ball. Gotta give my Mountaineers some props!!
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Old 11-21-2003, 06:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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… and it's irrelevant because of Southern Mississippi's pasting of TCU.
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