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Old 11-18-2003, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who else thinks Kansas State can beat OU?

Again, I'm going out on a limb to make this daring predcition.

Snyder seems to know how to stump stoops real well. maybe thats cuz stoops coached under bill snyder @ k-state .

OU seems to have trouble with teams like k-state (look @ colorado this year). if OU comes out sloppy like they did against 'bama, we will have a big upset on our hands.

In the past meetings, here are the scores

1996 seas: Sat 26 Oct Wk 10 Kansas St 42, Oklahoma 35 at Kansas St
1997 seas: Sat 25 Oct Wk 10 Kansas St 26, Oklahoma 7 at Oklahoma - irrelevant since stoops wasnt @ OU. thanks to bond007 for pointing this out.

2000 seas: Sat 14 Oct Wk 8 Oklahoma 41, Kansas St 31 at Kansas St
2000 seas: Sat 2 Dec Big12chp Oklahoma 27, Kansas St 24 in Kansas City, MO
2001 seas: Sat 29 Sep Wk 5 Oklahoma 38, Kansas St 37 at Oklahoma - if i remember, ksu lost cuz of the missed extra points/fg's.

I really think snyder & the 'cats can upset stoops & co this year.

i know this can screw texas' chance of a bcs bowl game, but i really think this could happen.

EDIT : Yes, I think that OU will fall in the big xii championship.
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Old 11-18-2003, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nah, not happenin, OU=National Champs.
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Old 11-18-2003, 04:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Dude...

Stoops became OU's coach in 1999, so listing scores PRIOR to that aren't really relevant.

as for your daring prediction... did you actually make one???
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Old 11-18-2003, 04:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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saying that god stoops' team will lose is daring enough for me

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Stoops became OU's coach in 1999, so listing scores PRIOR to that aren't really relevant.
crap. thought it was earlier, but guess not. but still, look @ the scores from the years that stoops vs snyder met. i think its time for snyder to get a win.
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Old 11-19-2003, 06:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry. Yes, Kansas State can defeat Oklahoma, but only in the way that UL Monroe can be beat Oklahoma, meaning there is one possibility in a thousand. It would be a big upset.

I've seen Kansas State just dominated up front on both sides of the ball this year. Marshall got to the quarterback with ease, and had no trouble running the ball.

I don't care about the fact that they have Elle MacPhearson back, either. Ell can't take a team that is a cut below the Big 12 powers and elevate them on his own.
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Old 11-19-2003, 10:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Tell ya' what Dude - Put your money where your mouth is. $500 says they can't. Your turn.
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Old 11-19-2003, 10:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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OU could hang with several NFL teams...they are just THAT good this year. nobody is beating them, and the national championship game isnt likely to be very entertaining...unless TCU some how pulls the number 2 bcs spot. that would be interesting...not likely...but interesting.

oh, i forgot to talk about k-state...probably one of the worst teams in the top 25.
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Old 11-19-2003, 10:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 11-19-2003, 10:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Remember that K-State lost to both Texas and Oklahoma State and that OU crushed both of these teams. Three coaches on our team used to coach at K-State and know Bill Snyder's system inside and out. K-State can only hope to beat OU by bringing the house on every single play. While this worked for Colorado, they also got burned a few times. Jason had one of his worst days throwing the ball that particular day. OU has 2 weeks to prepare for the game. OU is something like 18-1 against top-25 competition since Stoops became coach.

Kansas State will get beat by at least 14.
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Old 11-19-2003, 11:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Tell ya' what Dude - Put your money where your mouth is. $500 says they can't. Your turn.
sorry, but I dont have that kinda money!

its always been close between ksu & OU and i think that its about time that k-state got a win.
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Old 11-19-2003, 01:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 11-20-2003, 10:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There is no way that a team from the big 12 is going to beat OU. They are too good and everyone else, well they suck.

Also I would like to say that contrary to what some people think, that OU can play teams in the NFL, well they are smoking crack. Think about this a second. That would mean that everyone on the OU team is going to be drafted and start in the NFL. Ummm....no not gonna happen. The NFL is well ahead of college football. and yes there are single players that would do well in the NFL that are in college now, but not the entire team. So lets keep it real here, the big 12 is overrated and OU has not had a real challange yet this year. Note: the most ballanced team that has played OU this year was Alabama. You saw how they gave them fits. A team like USC and Ohiost have a good chance of hanging in there with OU. Good defense stops good offense every time. Ask BJ Symons, he knows.
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Old 11-20-2003, 10:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 11-20-2003, 07:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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as much as i would love to see it happen....its gont gonna happen...

not that i have anything against OU but it would be a HUGE upset
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Old 11-20-2003, 07:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe K-State only lost one game with Roberson at QB. He was hurt for the Marshall upset. K-State kills Marshall if Roberson is QB. They won't beat OU, but they could easily be 11-1 instead of 9-3.
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Old 11-20-2003, 08:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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ooh! the espn announcer just mentioned ksu's chances of beating OU.
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Old 11-20-2003, 09:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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As much as I would like to see it happen as well ou has it together this year. KSU simply does not have the firepower or stopping ability. Stranger things have happened though.
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Old 11-21-2003, 06:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't care about the fact that they have Elle MacPhearson back, either. Ell can't take a team that is a cut below the Big 12 powers and elevate them on his own.


Well, Kansas State might have a better chance with MacPhearson at QB than with Roberson. She'd distract the hell out of the Oklahoma defensive line.

Kansas State playing Oklahoma in Kansas City at night. I see Kansas State covering but not winning.
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Old 11-21-2003, 11:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 11-22-2003, 09:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm a Longhorn fan, and I hate ou more than anyone. I want ou to lose at everything they do. And except for football, Texas owns them at everything else. That said, there's no team in college football right now that will come within 20 points of ou for the rest of the year. Have your fun this year, Vince will be ready to kick your ass next year.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe K-State only lost one game with Roberson at QB.
with Roberson at QB, K-State lost to Texas and Okie State.
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Old 12-01-2003, 12:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I already posted this in another thread about K-State vs OU, but i'll say it here too...OU is going to dominate this game. The way to beat them over the last couple of years has been to have a mobile quarterback, but this year, even that hasn't stopped them. Stoops in on a mission this year, and losing the Big 12 to anyone is not going to happen.

My prediction: OU 45 - 17
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Old 12-01-2003, 01:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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they have no chance.
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Old 12-01-2003, 06:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I'm a Longhorn fan, and I hate ou more than anyone. I want ou to lose at everything they do. And except for football, Texas owns them at everything else. That said, there's no team in college football right now that will come within 20 points of ou for the rest of the year. Have your fun this year, Vince will be ready to kick your ass next year.
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Then tell me again about Texas dominating who???

The University of Oklahoma athletics program boasts a tradition that few schools can rival. Over the years, Sooner squads have combined for 22 team national championships including seven in football, seven in wrestling, four in men's gymnastics, two in baseball, one in men's golf and one in softball.

The Sooner tradition isn't something buried in the past. It inspires our student-athletes to greater heights every season. In 2002, an OU team earned the title of National Champions for the third consecutive year, this time with men's gymnastics. The Sooner men's and women's basketball teams carved their spot in history by advancing to the NCAA Final Four -- only the third time in history a school has accomplished the feat with both teams.

Even more remarkable, the OU football and men's and women's basketball teams combined for 74 wins -- the most ever by a Division I school in a single season. Oklahoma went 11-2 in football, 31-5 in men's basketball and 32-4 in women's basketball. The University of Oklahoma now stands alone in college sports' 30-30-10 club, created exclusively by OU this past year.

Oklahoma's student-athletes continue to lead in the classroom and their actions in the community are exemplary. With the Great Expectations project, Oklahoma is aggressively building the finest facilites in the nation.

Each day, it becomes more evident that the University of Oklahoma has become the finest comprehensive athletics program in the country. When OU student-athletes raise the trophy of another championship, the hands responsible for hoisting that trophy symbolize thousands of Sooners around the globe.

OU Athletics Heritage
Oklahoma was playing football before it was a state. It's the only one of two Division I football programs to win seven or more national championships. And OU is the only Division I football program ever to record 47 straight victories.

Oklahoma gymnastics great Bart Conner won two NCAA all-around crowns and led the Sooners to two NCAA titles in 1977 and 1978. A three-time Olympian (1976, ‘80, ‘84), Conner won two gold medals in 1984. He was instrumental in the foundation of the International Gymnastics Hall of Fame in Oklahoma City.

Oklahoma defeated UCLA in the 2000 Women's College World Series to capture the school's first softball national championship. The Sooners won 66 games, broke 15 school records, had four All-Americans, the WCWS Most Outstanding Player, three WCWS all-tournament team members, a Big 12 title, a No. 1 ranking and the National Coaching Staff of the Year. The Sooners became just the second non-West Coast team in NCAA history to win a softball national championship.

Oklahoma has played in eight consecutive men's basketball NCAA Tournaments since 1995. Last season, OU made the Final Four for the fourth time (1939, 1947, 1988, 2002) and registered its 25th winning season in the last 26. No other Big 12 team can boast as many winning campaigns since the 1975-76 season as the Sooners.

Sooner football has accumulated seven national championships, 38 conference titles, 23 bowl championships, 128 all-americans and had 299 players drafted by the NFL, including 31 first-round selections and four No. 1 picks: Billy Vessels (1953), Lee Roy Selmon (1976), Billy Sims (1980) and Brian Bosworth (1987).

Oklahoma's storied wrestling program has amassed 24 conference titles and seven national championships. OU has produced 232 all-americans and ranks third on the individual national champions list with 62.

Oklahoma women's basketball finished its best season in school and Big 12 Conference history in 2002 by winning 32 games, capturing both the regular season and tournament league titles and advancing to the championship game of the NCAA Tournament. The Sooners also earned their first ever No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament and ended the year ranked No. 2 in the AP poll. OU became the first team in the Big 12 and the previous Big Eight Conference to advance to an NCAA Final Four.

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The Oklahoma baseball team swept through its regional tournament and the World Series without a loss to capture the 1994 national championship. The Sooners topped off a 42-17 regular-season record with the school's second baseball national title.

Oklahoma golf's Charlie Coe is one of the most celebrated amateur players in the history of the game. During his career, Coe captured U.S. amateur crowns in 1949, 1958 and 1959. He also played in 19 straight Masters Tournaments. Coe competed on the Walker Cup teams of 1949, 1951 and 1953.

The Sooner football team has appeared in 36 bowl games and won 23. Oklahoma is one of just four schools in NCAA history to win each of the five traditional New Year's day bowl games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar, Cotton and Rose.

Oklahoma basketball great Wayman Tisdale was a three time All-American for the Sooners from 1983-85 and is the all time leading scorer and rebounder in OU history. He was a member of the 1984 gold medal U.S. Olympic team and was recently named the greatest player ever in the Big Eight Conference by a panelist of longtime conference media observers and officials. Tisdale's No. 23 was retired by Oklahoma in 1997 -- the first number ever retired by OU in any sport. After a 12-year NBA career, Tisdale is now a contemporary jazz bassist with four highly successful albums.

Oklahoma's Lucious, Lee Roy and Dewey Selmon all dominated college football on the defensive line. Lucious was an All-American in 1973 and considered one of the best linemen ever to play at OU before Lee Roy took it to another level. Dewey was also an All-American. In 1973, all three started on the OU defensive line, combining for 234 tackles.

Oklahoma wrestling has produced 18 Olympians who have collectively won three gold and two silver medals. Brothers Dave and Mark Schultz both won gold in the 1984 games.

Oklahoma baseball won the 1951 College World Series with a come-from-behind win over Tennessee in the championship game to become the first team in history to claim the title after winning the double-elimination tournament in straight games without a defeat.

OU women's basketball great Stacey Dales graduated as the most decorated player in the program's history in 2002. She was the WNBA's third overall draft pick by the Washington Mystics. In addition to leading Oklahoma to the 2002 national championship game, Dales was a two-time consensus All-American, two-time Big 12 Conference Player of the Year and four-time academic All-Big 12.
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Old 12-01-2003, 06:12 PM   #25 (permalink)
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OK LD, now u've given me something to argue about. I couldnt really argue that Texas football currently is > than OU football.


But since you opened the door, I'd like to start off by saying that Texas leads the UT-OU rivalry. .

Football last year -

11-2 (6-2 Big 12, Co-South Division Champions)
Cotton Bowl Champions
Final Ranking: No. 6 (AP) / No. 7 (ESPN/USA Today)


Last year, we beat OU both times in men's basketball. Oh yeah, the 2nd loss came on OU's senior day. I am pretty sure I saw Hollis Price and a couple of other sr's cry. Aww! Texas men went on to the final four last year. Final Ranking: No. 5 (AP) / No. 3 (ESPN/USA Today)


Team is now ranked #8 in the nation.

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Women's basketball also went 2-0 against OU last year. The team also went to the final four. . Final Ranking: No. 5 (AP) / No. 3 (ESPN/USA Today)

Team is #2 in the nation now.

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Baseball is next. Yeah, we went 4-0 against OU last year. And the team also made it to the final four last year. The team finished #4 in the rankings last year. Baseball season has not yet started.

Volleyball - Texas went 2-0 against OU last year.

Softball - Texas went 3-0 against OU last year and advanced well into the world series.

Tennis - Texas went 2-0 against OU last year. .

So, texas was 15-1 against OU last year. not too bad.

So yeah, we've pretty much raped OU in everything else last year.

Texas also placed second in the Sears cup (for the best athletic program in the nation).

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Other Misc Stats

Men's Golf
Big 12 Champions
NCAA Finish: tied for 9th

Women's Golf
Big 12 Finish: 3rd
NCAA Finish: 3rd

Men's Outdoor Track & Field
Big 12 Champions
NCAA Finish: tied for 21st

Men's Swimming & Diving
Big 12 Champions
NCAA Finish: 2nd

Women's Outdoor Track & Field
Big 12 Champions
NCAA Finish: 2nd

Women's Soccer
15-5-1 (9-1-0 Big 12, 2nd place)
Advanced to NCAA First Round
Final Ranking: No. 14 (NSCAA)

Women's Swimming & Diving
Big 12 Champions
NCAA Finish: 7th

Men's Tennis
19-7 (6-1 Big 12, 2nd)
Advanced to NCAA Round of 16
Final Ranking: No. 13 (ITA)

Men's Cross Country
Big 12 Finish: 2nd
NCAA Finish: 23rd (4th in South Central Region)

Women's Cross Country
Big 12 Finish: 3rd
NCAA Finish: 22nd (2nd in South Central Region)

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Old 12-01-2003, 07:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So, texas was 15-1 against OU last year. not too bad.
Question for The_Dude... which would you rather have happen???

A. go 15-1 against OU, but lose every, single year in football.
--or--
B. go 1-15 against OU, but win every, single year in football.
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Old 12-01-2003, 07:59 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Question for The_Dude... which would you rather have happen???

A. go 15-1 against OU, but lose every, single year in football.
--or--
B. go 1-15 against OU, but win every, single year in football.

A - Definately!
Even though we lost to OU, we're gonna be getting (hopefully!) a BCS bid. I'd be pissed off for that one week, but life will go on.


But.....I dont think u can say every, single year. Texas leads the rivalry 55-38-5 all time. So, it's all cyclical. Stoops just lost his defensive coordinator and that offers us some hope for next year!
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Old 12-01-2003, 09:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
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K State can't do it.
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Old 12-02-2003, 08:30 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Not a chance in hell.
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Old 12-02-2003, 08:38 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 12-02-2003, 08:41 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Due to the fact that OU cannot drop out of the championship game no matter what......I can see them tanking in the K-State game......they have a QB that is one step away from a wheel chair (although he will win the Heisman) and I can see them resting just about everyone in this basically meaningless game......AND I would HATE to be the team that plays OU after their first loss!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-02-2003, 08:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I was going to through some picks on a parlee card and thought about this game and decided not to touch it, there hav ebeen too many spoilers in past years when something important is one the line.
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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yes, the big xii championship game has been mired with upsets and close calls.
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Old 12-03-2003, 03:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Dude! Dude! Dude!!!! Take OU by 35! You will win money!!!
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Old 12-03-2003, 03:11 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Dude! Dude! Dude!!!! Take OU by 35! You will win money!!!
35 is way too much.

even if the game gets out of hand, stoops is classy enough not to run it up against his former boss.
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Old 12-03-2003, 04:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Stoops doesn't give a damn about the score - they score more after he pulls the starters than they do with them - look at every game that has gotten out of hand - like A&M - it was the second and third string that ran up the score.
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Old 12-03-2003, 04:16 PM   #37 (permalink)
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It's funny how you said how bad Kansas State was in the beginning of the year and now that you are rooting for them.
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:49 PM   #38 (permalink)
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It's funny how you said how bad Kansas State was in the beginning of the year and now that you are rooting for them.
I did? Any links/quotes?

I've said stuff about their schedule, but I dont think I've criticized the program as a whole.


And other reason why I'll be rooting for OU in this game.

So that Texas doesnt get killed in red river shootout next year.

If we get a bcs bowl game, then all is well and all the coaches are gonna return. if we dont, there is a good chance of some coaches getting fired.
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Old 12-06-2003, 10:17 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm going for the major upset. K-state has a chance, the only games we lost was when are two main superstars where injured and their returning *very rusty* games.
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I dont wanna sound cocky now, but "I told ya so".
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