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burntmonkey 10-15-2003 04:55 PM

SEC is the best sports conference
 
Is there really any argument against the SEC being the best overall conference in the NCAA?

(Of course there is, but just putting a little fuel on the fire!)

gov135 10-15-2003 04:57 PM

Search threads for the post about this topic.

The_Dude 10-15-2003 04:58 PM

right.....

i guess u havent heard of the BIG XII

hmm....2 out of the final four teams last year from where?

we all know about big xii football. conference play has lowered the rankings of teh schools, but if i remember right, 3 out of the top 5 teams in the beginning of the year were from the big 12.

Jeff 10-15-2003 06:00 PM

7 of the 11 teams in the BIG TEN are ranked in the top 25 poll. I believe that ties some sort of record.

The_Dude 10-15-2003 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
7 of the 11 teams in the BIG TEN are ranked in the top 25 poll. I believe that ties some sort of record.
3 of those teams are undefeated in conference play.

if u look @ the last year end's basketball rankings, big 10 had 2 teams ranked.

djtestudo 10-15-2003 06:52 PM

ACC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Artermis 10-16-2003 07:46 AM

SEC is not the best all around confernce...that would be the PAC10.

SEC is a great football and basketball confernce with some good track programs.

Big Ten is a great football, basketball, hockey, volleyball, swimming and wrestling.

Big 12 is a great football, basketball, wrestling and baseball confernce.

ACC is a great basketball and soccer confernce (football is missing a couple of teams).

Big East is a great basketball confernce.

PAC10 is a great football, basketball, softball, baseball, track, volleyball and all other water sports.

The other conferences are just good except for Rice who won the NCAA baseball last year.

PAC10 is the best all around sports confernce.


Art

Artermis 10-16-2003 08:04 AM

This is from the director's cup 2002-2003

1. Stanford (Cal.) 1420.5 (PAC10)
2. Texas 1094 (BigXII)
3. Ohio State 1074.75 (Big Ten)
4. Michigan 1034.25 (Big Ten)
5. Penn State 993 (Big Ten)
6. California-Los Angeles 943.75 (PAC10)
7. Florida 935.75 (SEC)
8. North Carolina 933.5 (ACC)
9. California 884.75 (PAC10)
10. Arizona State 860.75 (PAC10)
11. Minnesota 845 (Big Ten)
12. Auburn (Ala.) 822.75 (SEC)
13. Notre Dame (Ind.) 822.5 (Big East/Ind)
13. Southern California 822.5 (PAC10)
15. Georgia 784.75 (SEC)
16. Arizona 760 (PAC10)
17. Washington 732 (PAC10)
18. South Carolina 701 (SEC)
19. Virginia 690 (ACC)
20. Oklahoma 643.25 (Big XII)
21. Duke (N.C.) 643 (ACC)
22. Maryland 620.5 (ACC)
23. LSU 597.25 (SEC)
24. Nebraska 596.5 (Big XII)
25 Wisconsin 579 (Big Ten)

Conference breakdown:

PAC10- 7 schools total points-6424.25
Big Ten- 5 schools total points-4526
SEC- 5 teams tp- 3841.5
ACC- 4 teams tp 2887
Big XII- 3 tp- 2333.75
Big East- 1 tp- 822.5

This shows that the PAC10 is first and Big Ten is 2nd with SEC a close third.


Dude while you overstate how good the Big XII is again by coming in 5th at least your Texas has the 2nd best all around program..:)


Art

The_Dude 10-16-2003 08:20 AM

I know how the director's cup tallies up points.

they look through every single sport that the university plays. stanford prolly plays like a shitload of sports that UT doesnt play. i was just referring to the major sports (football, basketball (both mens and womens, baseball)

that's about all that gets any kind of tv coverage.

UT's sports are

FOOTBALL
M BASKETBALL
W BASKETBALL
BASEBALL
SOCCER
VOLLEYBALL
SOFTBALL
SWIMMING/DIVING
TRACK & FIELD/XC
TENNIS
GOLF
ROWING
(all i could find on texassports.com)

Stanford on the other hand has

Baseball (650) 723-4528
Basketball - Men (650) 723-0562
Basketball - Women (650) 723-0284
Crew - Women (650) 725-0749
Crew - Women Lightweight (650) 724-2452
Crew - Men (650) 725-0748
Cross Country - Men & Women (650) 723-2736
Diving - Men & Women (650) 723-9159
Fencing - Men & Women (650) 725-3587
Field Hockey (650) 725-0751
Football (650) 723-4511
Golf - Men (650) 323-0939
Golf - Women (650) 323-0938
Gymnastics - Men (650) 723-9591
Gymnastics - Women (650) 725-6143
Lacrosse - Women (650) 725-1994
Sailing (650) 723-2811
Soccer - Men (650) 723-9375
Soccer - Women (650) 725-9884
Softball (650) 725-0736
Swimming - Men (650) 723-4416
Swimming - Women (650) 736-0923
Synchronized Swimming (650) 725-0128
Tennis - Men (650) 723-1160
Tennis - Women (650) 723-9540
Track & Field - Men & Women (650) 723-2736
Volleyball - Men (650) 725-0763
Volleyball - Women (650) 723-1997
Water Polo - Men (650) 723-1874
Water Polo - Women (650) 725-9016
Wrestling (650) 723-9486

I'm sorry, but a water polo championship should in no way be equal to a football/baseball national championship.

burntmonkey 10-16-2003 08:26 AM

I love all you Texans. I never knew a good Texan who did not also own a full-sized Texas flag and display it proudly in his or her living room.

Artermis 10-16-2003 11:55 AM

why not dude? Just because one has more exposure than the other does not make it any less competitive.

I think that the reason you only find those on the site is because them are the only ones they are any good at...well they should be taking football off at anytime...:)


Art

mml 10-16-2003 12:34 PM

If you look at sports OVERALL, there is not doubt that the PAC 10 is the strongest as was clearly pointed out by Art. Thank you sir.

The_Dude 10-16-2003 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artermis
why not dude? Just because one has more exposure than the other does not make it any less competitive.

I think that the reason you only find those on the site is because them are the only ones they are any good at...well they should be taking football off at anytime...:)


Art

no, cuz most big 12 sports dont compete in the sports that stanford does.

The_Dude 10-17-2003 03:52 PM

I'd lilke to point out something


Quote:

Sports Illustrated last fall ranked Texas as the number one college athletic program in the nation, besting 323 other Division I sports programs; among the criteria Sports Illustrated used to rate the schools were performances from the 2001-02 academic year and the school's rankings in the NCAA Division I all-sports standings.
http://big12sports.ocsn.com/sports/m...101703aaa.html

SAM821 10-17-2003 04:02 PM

ACC... wait till Miami, V-Tech, and BC get there

Artermis 10-17-2003 05:54 PM

The problem is that Texas only plays sports it can compete in. Notice how most the sports that they do compete in they are good or very good. They do not compete in programs that they cannot so they shut it down and then have fans who whine that it is unfair because they do not compete in everything.


Art

The_Dude 10-17-2003 06:04 PM

I dont think we have room for anymore facilities here. The campus is in downtown austin with no more room to expand. i dont think it's just texas that doesnt field many of these teams.

even if, you cant be good if you dont have a team. the philosophy here is to buy championships (sad isnt it? just like the yankees). UT spends a lot of $$ on coaches and i'm sure that they can make a team better by shelling out more $$.

djtestudo 10-17-2003 08:13 PM

Can you imagine the ACC in two years?

Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, NC State, Maryland in football.

Plus Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest, Boston College, Wake Forest, Maryland in basketball.

The scales are starting to tip east...

corporatex 10-19-2003 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artermis
SEC is not the best all around confernce...that would be the PAC10.

SEC is a great football and basketball confernce with some good track programs.

Big Ten is a great football, basketball, hockey, volleyball, swimming and wrestling.

Big 12 is a great football, basketball, wrestling and baseball confernce.

ACC is a great basketball and soccer confernce (football is missing a couple of teams).

Big East is a great basketball confernce.

PAC10 is a great football, basketball, softball, baseball, track, volleyball and all other water sports.

The other conferences are just good except for Rice who won the NCAA baseball last year.

PAC10 is the best all around sports confernce.


Art

I could not agree more. The argument for the other conference are solely based on who is on the top in basketball and football. Well there is other sports and Stanford dominates the other sports. Without Standford in the Pac 10, I would say that the ACC is the best overall sports conference.


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