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iktoweya · 10-23-2003, 11:23 AM

im a hardcore cowboys fan whether they win or lose so far they have been doing very well which does put i smile on my face

G_Whiz · 10-24-2003, 01:58 PM

First, I admit that I hate the Cowboys. I also hate Bill Parcells. So that will explain some of the bias to my post.

The Cowboys are better than I expected them to be this year. I suspect that they are better than Parcells expected too.

Now, they are coming into the hardest part of their schedule. They have the top rated defense and the 4th rated offense. I don't think they can maintain those ratings, but that doesn't mean they aren't on their way back.

The point is that, in this day of parity in the NFL, they are back to being competitive. Since it seems like there will not be any more dynasties, will they become one of the temporary elite teams? Maybe in the next year or two, but not this year.

I still think that it is probably 50/50 for them to make the playoffs. But the reality is that they can. All they need is to keep playing well and get a few breaks.

I'll be rooting against them. But that doesn't mean that I don't respect the steps that they've made.

salsa2 · 10-26-2003, 04:42 PM

I'm going to bump this up even though they lost today. We find out a lot about this team NEXT week. They came out flat today on offense and thought the bucs would just give them this game.
Lets see how they handle the loss.

The_Dude · 10-26-2003, 08:16 PM

yeah, today just sucked for the boys.

they were not playing disciplined at all and couldnt get a running game going.

captain · 10-27-2003, 06:40 AM

I don't think the problem was as much with Dallas playing poorly as TB played up to their potential. Besides Dallas won't sneak up on other teams anymore-the rest of the league has figured out Parcells has the Cowboys playing good football.

petergriffin24 · 10-27-2003, 07:32 AM

yeah but I think now you will see Dallas take some losses and they have a pretty tough schedule coming up and the Giants and Eagles are starting to play like they should be especially New York coming off a HUGE win in Minnesota!!

Elegant Holmes · 10-27-2003, 07:47 AM

I'm always happy with the 'boys if they can beat the redskins and eagles. Even at there worst they always play well against them.

dy156 · 10-27-2003, 01:05 PM

I hate to say it, but I saw a statistic about how four teams in the last 10 years that started the year 5-1 and managed to not make the playoffs. The Chargers last year were the last, and I think this might be the fifth. As much as I like them, the Cowboys were not as great a team as their record reflected.

Liquor Dealer · 10-27-2003, 01:12 PM

The Boyz ain't back! Yet. But they are definitely headed in the right direction - the Tuna is not a magician, even though he has worked wonders with what he had to work with this year. Give him some time. if he can survive Jones' antics he'll turn them around but he can't do it overnight - they didn't get as bad as they were overnight and won't turn around in an instant. Next year will be a lot better. (If Jones stays where he belongs and leaves the Tuna alone).

lions20 · 10-27-2003, 01:38 PM

Cowboys were overated they really hadn't played anybody decent till yesterday.

Kurant · 10-27-2003, 06:09 PM

^^

I agree with him. =/

justin218 · 10-31-2003, 02:51 AM

THe cowboys might make the playoffs but I don't think they'd go anywhere. They have a good record now, just can't get in a rut, and they should make the playoffs. Not that easy of a schedule though.

The_Dude · 11-02-2003, 04:39 PM

dallas just beat the hell out of washington, but the score doesnt reflect it.

AL9045 · 11-02-2003, 04:49 PM

Yeah, but Washington sucks...so that isn't saying much.

And this is coming from a Redskins fan.

dy156 · 11-03-2003, 08:55 AM

If they can play that crappy and still win, there's hope. I think it's a difference in attitude. They expect to win now. After a first quarter like that, alot of teams, and the Cowboys in the last several years, would've just quit. The same could be said for individuals who really screwed up. Bouncing back showed alot for the team, and from Hambrick and Glenn.

spectre · 11-03-2003, 07:25 PM

Dallas is doing good, but they're only winning the games that they are supposed to win. They seem intimidated when they play teams that are considered the best in the league. Their enthusiasm just dies during those games and they get beat, bad. This isn't the year for Dallas. I think that they can take their division, but the next few weeks will be the big test. They will be playing tough opponents and they will have to treat them like they treat any other team. They can't play in awe of their opponents or they're going to lose. Because of that, I don't think this is the year for Dallas, but with Parcells there, it wouldn't surprise me if they made a run for it next year.

salsa2 · 11-05-2003, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by spectre
Dallas is doing good, but they're only winning the games that they are supposed to win. They seem intimidated when they play teams that are considered the best in the league. Their enthusiasm just dies during those games and they get beat, bad. This isn't the year for Dallas. I think that they can take their division, but the next few weeks will be the big test. They will be playing tough opponents and they will have to treat them like they treat any other team. They can't play in awe of their opponents or they're going to lose. Because of that, I don't think this is the year for Dallas, but with Parcells there, it wouldn't surprise me if they made a run for it next year.

When exactly did they get beat bad. The Tampa game was 16-0 and Tampa really couldnt move the ball at all. Dallas gave them excellent field position on turnovers. Tampa won, but not really by anything great they did. What it did show was that Dallas can not run the ball on the top defences in the league.

spectre · 11-05-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by salsa2
When exactly did they get beat bad. The Tampa game was 16-0 and Tampa really couldnt move the ball at all. Dallas gave them excellent field position on turnovers. Tampa won, but not really by anything great they did. What it did show was that Dallas can not run the ball on the top defences in the league.

True, but it did show that Dallas, a team that normal plays a relatively clean game, got very sloppy. Their passing game was pretty weak in that game too. 118 yards through the air and an average of 4.1 yards per pass. Turnovers are a part of sloppy play. The score might not have indicated it, but they got beat, had it been the Colts or Titans, those three turnovers would have been 21 points from TOs. There were also two other offensive fumbles that Dallas did manage to recover. Like I said, they looked like they played intimidated.

SSJwrestler · 11-07-2003, 08:51 AM

NO WAY DALLAS SUCKS!!!

The_Dude · 11-09-2003, 04:21 PM

another win that makes 'em 7-2.

cementor · 11-09-2003, 05:22 PM

Seems like they are winning the games they ought to win, I would have expect TB to give them trouble , but Washington and the Buffalo looked like winnable games. Now the road gets tough

If they win one of the next four and don't get too nicked up. I'll be tickled. They won't win a playoff game, but it would be great to see them get there for a change.

Smoey · 11-10-2003, 08:49 AM

You guys think Parcells isn't telling his team that Tampa is good, of course they know what they're up against, and they just play from week to week, I want to know how come Shockey stop running his mouth? The Cowboys were just floating around the league with no direction, Parcells came in and every single cowboy bit into his philosophy, and it turns out he knows what he is doing, I just didn't think it would happen this quick.

aceventura3 · 11-10-2003, 10:40 AM

Parady is the worst thing to happen to the NFL. Every team is closely matched and the difference between winning and losing is usually based on a few quality players and injuries. The Cowboys may be on a role, and if they stay healthy they could go deep into the playoffs. They are certainly not at the verge of creating a new dynasty. We won't see any more dynasties in the NFL.

The_Dude · 11-23-2003, 01:15 PM

pretty good game going against the panthers. the 'boys will pull out a win.

EDIT : AND THEY WIN!

Jaiddin · 11-23-2003, 06:27 PM

Dallas finally looked like a Parcells team should look, less mistakes and turnovers. They dropped the game against New England that way. IF they can take out the Dolphins at home, then it will be awfully hard to pick against them the rest of the year, with the possible exception of the Philly game.

Jesus Malverde · 11-23-2003, 09:13 PM

The Cowboys are my favorite team, but I'll keep this post unbiased.
I agree with the statement that they aren't going to build a new dynasty. However, I do think they are on the verge of becoming a team that consistently finishes the year with a winning record. The NFC East is not the greatest division, and I haven't seen any personnel moves (that rival the addition of Parcells) the last few years that have made a big impact on the other three teams.
If Bill Parcells stays alive, and doesn't leave like he did with all his other teams, I think the cowboys will make a return to WINNING, but not GLORY.
Beating Carolina helped their playoff hopes too.

silverback · 11-23-2003, 09:31 PM

I think the Cowboys will make the playoffs this year but until their offense is more consistent, they won't go far. If they can add a quality running back next year, look out.

10-23-2003, 11:23 AM	#41 (permalink)
iktoweya These pretzels are making me thirsty!! Location: 105B	im a hardcore cowboys fan whether they win or lose so far they have been doing very well which does put i smile on my face __________________ i miss K-Wise

10-24-2003, 01:58 PM	#42 (permalink)
G_Whiz Junkie Location: Northern California	First, I admit that I hate the Cowboys. I also hate Bill Parcells. So that will explain some of the bias to my post. The Cowboys are better than I expected them to be this year. I suspect that they are better than Parcells expected too. Now, they are coming into the hardest part of their schedule. They have the top rated defense and the 4th rated offense. I don't think they can maintain those ratings, but that doesn't mean they aren't on their way back. The point is that, in this day of parity in the NFL, they are back to being competitive. Since it seems like there will not be any more dynasties, will they become one of the temporary elite teams? Maybe in the next year or two, but not this year. I still think that it is probably 50/50 for them to make the playoffs. But the reality is that they can. All they need is to keep playing well and get a few breaks. I'll be rooting against them. But that doesn't mean that I don't respect the steps that they've made. __________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?

10-26-2003, 08:16 PM	#44 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	yeah, today just sucked for the boys. they were not playing disciplined at all and couldnt get a running game going. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

10-27-2003, 06:40 AM	#45 (permalink)
captain Crazy	I don't think the problem was as much with Dallas playing poorly as TB played up to their potential. Besides Dallas won't sneak up on other teams anymore-the rest of the league has figured out Parcells has the Cowboys playing good football. __________________ captain

10-27-2003, 01:12 PM	#49 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	The Boyz ain't back! Yet. But they are definitely headed in the right direction - the Tuna is not a magician, even though he has worked wonders with what he had to work with this year. Give him some time. if he can survive Jones' antics he'll turn them around but he can't do it overnight - they didn't get as bad as they were overnight and won't turn around in an instant. Next year will be a lot better. (If Jones stays where he belongs and leaves the Tuna alone). __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

10-26-2003, 04:42 PM	#43 (permalink)
salsa2 Tilted Location: New Jersey	I'm going to bump this up even though they lost today. We find out a lot about this team NEXT week. They came out flat today on offense and thought the bucs would just give them this game. Lets see how they handle the loss.

10-27-2003, 07:32 AM	#46 (permalink)
petergriffin24 Insane	yeah but I think now you will see Dallas take some losses and they have a pretty tough schedule coming up and the Giants and Eagles are starting to play like they should be especially New York coming off a HUGE win in Minnesota!!

10-27-2003, 07:47 AM	#47 (permalink)
Elegant Holmes Crazy Location: "TX"	I'm always happy with the 'boys if they can beat the redskins and eagles. Even at there worst they always play well against them.

10-27-2003, 01:05 PM	#48 (permalink)
dy156 cookie Location: in the backwoods	I hate to say it, but I saw a statistic about how four teams in the last 10 years that started the year 5-1 and managed to not make the playoffs. The Chargers last year were the last, and I think this might be the fifth. As much as I like them, the Cowboys were not as great a team as their record reflected.

10-27-2003, 01:38 PM	#50 (permalink)
lions20 Insane	Cowboys were overated they really hadn't played anybody decent till yesterday.

10-27-2003, 06:09 PM	#51 (permalink)
Kurant Junkie Location: Don't worry about it.	^^ I agree with him. =/

10-31-2003, 02:51 AM	#52 (permalink)
justin218 Tilted	THe cowboys might make the playoffs but I don't think they'd go anywhere. They have a good record now, just can't get in a rut, and they should make the playoffs. Not that easy of a schedule though.

11-02-2003, 04:39 PM	#53 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	dallas just beat the hell out of washington, but the score doesnt reflect it. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

11-02-2003, 04:49 PM	#54 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	Yeah, but Washington sucks...so that isn't saying much. And this is coming from a Redskins fan.

11-03-2003, 08:55 AM	#55 (permalink)
dy156 cookie Location: in the backwoods	If they can play that crappy and still win, there's hope. I think it's a difference in attitude. They expect to win now. After a first quarter like that, alot of teams, and the Cowboys in the last several years, would've just quit. The same could be said for individuals who really screwed up. Bouncing back showed alot for the team, and from Hambrick and Glenn.

11-07-2003, 08:51 AM	#59 (permalink)
SSJwrestler Banned Location: Davidson, NC/ Manassas, VA	NO WAY DALLAS SUCKS!!!

11-03-2003, 07:25 PM	#56 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	Dallas is doing good, but they're only winning the games that they are supposed to win. They seem intimidated when they play teams that are considered the best in the league. Their enthusiasm just dies during those games and they get beat, bad. This isn't the year for Dallas. I think that they can take their division, but the next few weeks will be the big test. They will be playing tough opponents and they will have to treat them like they treat any other team. They can't play in awe of their opponents or they're going to lose. Because of that, I don't think this is the year for Dallas, but with Parcells there, it wouldn't surprise me if they made a run for it next year. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

11-09-2003, 04:21 PM	#60 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	another win that makes 'em 7-2. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

11-09-2003, 05:22 PM	#61 (permalink)
cementor Crazy Location: Denver	Seems like they are winning the games they ought to win, I would have expect TB to give them trouble , but Washington and the Buffalo looked like winnable games. Now the road gets tough If they win one of the next four and don't get too nicked up. I'll be tickled. They won't win a playoff game, but it would be great to see them get there for a change. __________________ Cementor If I was any better I'd have to be twins!

11-10-2003, 08:49 AM	#62 (permalink)
Smoey Upright	You guys think Parcells isn't telling his team that Tampa is good, of course they know what they're up against, and they just play from week to week, I want to know how come Shockey stop running his mouth? The Cowboys were just floating around the league with no direction, Parcells came in and every single cowboy bit into his philosophy, and it turns out he knows what he is doing, I just didn't think it would happen this quick.

11-10-2003, 10:40 AM	#63 (permalink)
aceventura3 Junkie Location: Ventura County	Parady is the worst thing to happen to the NFL. Every team is closely matched and the difference between winning and losing is usually based on a few quality players and injuries. The Cowboys may be on a role, and if they stay healthy they could go deep into the playoffs. They are certainly not at the verge of creating a new dynasty. We won't see any more dynasties in the NFL. __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch." "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion." "If you live among wolves you have to act like one." "A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

11-23-2003, 01:15 PM	#64 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	pretty good game going against the panthers. the 'boys will pull out a win. EDIT : AND THEY WIN! __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal Last edited by The_Dude; 11-23-2003 at 01:19 PM..

11-23-2003, 06:27 PM	#65 (permalink)
Jaiddin Crazy Location: Dallas TX	Dallas finally looked like a Parcells team should look, less mistakes and turnovers. They dropped the game against New England that way. IF they can take out the Dolphins at home, then it will be awfully hard to pick against them the rest of the year, with the possible exception of the Philly game.

11-23-2003, 09:13 PM	#66 (permalink)
Jesus Malverde Psycho Location: Sinaloa, Mexico	The Cowboys are my favorite team, but I'll keep this post unbiased. I agree with the statement that they aren't going to build a new dynasty. However, I do think they are on the verge of becoming a team that consistently finishes the year with a winning record. The NFC East is not the greatest division, and I haven't seen any personnel moves (that rival the addition of Parcells) the last few years that have made a big impact on the other three teams. If Bill Parcells stays alive, and doesn't leave like he did with all his other teams, I think the cowboys will make a return to WINNING, but not GLORY. Beating Carolina helped their playoff hopes too. __________________ ...I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life...

11-23-2003, 09:31 PM	#67 (permalink)
silverback Registered User Location: texas	I think the Cowboys will make the playoffs this year but until their offense is more consistent, they won't go far. If they can add a quality running back next year, look out.