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djtestudo 08-29-2003 09:33 PM

Nah.

KSU plays too many cupcakes that they won't be ready for a real team.

Only one of Texas and Oklahoma has a shot, and I doubt either ends up undefeated.

I think there could be 8 or 9 11-1 teams this year. Maryland could have the advantage, as they lost early, while a lot of others won't lose until November.

AL9045 08-30-2003 06:26 AM

I agree, losing early is the key as opposed to losing late, if you lose early, you drop down the rankings, but you have a chance to recover in the next 11 or so games, if you go 11-0 and drop, you have no way of moving back up the rankings, until the post season rankings that is.

present_future 08-30-2003 08:03 PM

i'm definitely going to go with oklahoma
what with their awesome D and all...

Sion 08-31-2003 01:41 AM

as a Ohio State fan and alumnus of that fine school, I have to say that last nights total dismantling of #17 Washington suggests that the Buckeyes are right back on track, and that the Clarett situation is not going to be a significant distraction.

I see them winning the Big Ten fairly easily. And I dont see anyone on their schedule whom they cannot beat. 12-0 baby!!!! The only question is how the BsCS rankings will come out and whether it will put them in the title game. I think it will.

The_Dude 08-31-2003 06:49 PM

TEXAS WILL WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

OMFG! i went to the game and texas just plain OWNED.

even our 2nd string qb, vince young, scored 2 td's! OMG!

cementor 08-31-2003 07:24 PM

Dear Dude,

It was NMSU pleeeze, Yes the Horns look good, but lets' see how trhings progress. It is a long season with a number of potential disasters.

Sion,

I thought the Bucks looked very impressive, but I also think that was a HIGHLY over rated Washington squad ( the Newweasel situation has obviously taken its toll). Those guys couldn't catch the clap in a backwoods brothel. I started feeling sorry for Pickett. Mr. Krenzel on the other hand is very savvy and has some darned good help even if Clarrett isn't in the mix. Don't forget UM they have experience and a solid team, though I think they are the only Big Ten team to give the Bucks a run. Maryland Washington and Auburn were the biggest "suprises" of the weekend. USC looks darned good too (and I'm not just talking about the POM squad).

The_Dude 08-31-2003 07:30 PM

yes it was NMSU, but they had a + record the last season.

and after i saw what vince young can do, i'm a believer.

i started believing even more after i saw the texas defense in action.

*sings "I'm a believer..."

cementor 08-31-2003 08:07 PM

I know how you feel. Seeing the Sooners second teamer was a huge relief. Paul Thompson, you will love him he's fast and has a gun. If the White goes down as he has in the last 2 years. Actually, seeing UT's second QB was pretty much the same type of player. Looking forward to the 11th of October!!

Boomer

Damnyankee 09-02-2003 11:59 AM

Michigan has an easy enough schedule to get there, but I don't think they'll win. As for OSU walking through the Big Ten last year, you must have missed the Michigan game. Michigan dominated both sides of the ball but could not score

djtestudo 09-02-2003 02:49 PM

OSU didn't walk through anything last year, and won't this year. Neither will Michigan, for that matter.

The NC won't be from the Big 10. Probably from either the Big 12 or ACC.

Damnyankee 09-03-2003 06:37 AM

I agree the Big 12 is awful tough this year. Anybody but the SEC!

GO BLUE!

phyzix525 09-03-2003 07:02 AM

OHIO STATE with out a doubt has one of the best teams this year. It has the best coach in the country and the best defense in the country. Nobody can beat them this year, this is not the bucks of past, there are no joey galloways running there mouths, or jon coopers calling obvious plays. This year we have a passing game and running with or without clarret.
GO BUCKS!!!

Damnyankee 09-03-2003 07:10 AM

You Are An Idiot! No OSU does not have the best team and will not win another National Championship! There's a few teams in the Big 12 that look much tougher! Dude....wake up...its just a dream!!:lol: :lol:

phyzix525 09-03-2003 07:29 AM

I think I remember you saying that last year

Damnyankee 09-03-2003 07:44 AM

I think I rember you saying that in 95' when you were No2 in the country!;)

phyzix525 09-03-2003 10:19 AM

True, but look at who our coach was. Same players with a different coach = different outcome. Don't forget the boys who beat you 2 years ago where coopers. Leadership is important.
Tressel is the man.

Damnyankee 09-04-2003 05:12 AM

I agree, Tressel is the man. Anyway, lets hope both are undefeated going into the last game....I can't wait!:D

phyzix525 09-04-2003 06:21 AM

yeah I know that would be great. Talk about the best game of the year. Does mich play wiscon or minn this year?

Damnyankee 09-04-2003 07:09 AM

Michigan plays Minn in October, but not Wisc. The big games are going to be Notre dame & Iowa away.

thespian86 09-04-2003 02:59 PM

i'm a huge fan of the Fighting Irish so i have to say that Notre Dame is going this year.. hopefully... i'm in denile, so what!

AL9045 09-04-2003 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Dude
yes it was NMSU, but they had a + record the last season.

and after i saw what vince young can do, i'm a believer.

i started believing even more after i saw the texas defense in action.

*sings "I'm a believer..."

Weren't you guys a "believer" of Simms? :p.

Btw, Michigan can beat OSU this year.

The_Dude 09-04-2003 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AL9045
Weren't you guys a "believer" of Simms? :p.

Btw, Michigan can beat OSU this year.

Simms wasnt exactly the most popular guy on campus. I've heard that people have threatened him when he "choked" and left nasty messages on his answering machine.

On the other hand, Chance Mock enjoyed a HUGE amount of popularity on campus and the UT forums before and after the first game (a majority still believe he should start, including me). Vince Young is also riding the popularity wave among the fans.

So, to answer your question, no.

He became more and more disliked after he replaced Major and then started "choking". As true fans would do, we didnt make the dissent public and visible to the enemy.


/damn, that was a rant...

AL9045 09-04-2003 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Dude
Simms wasnt exactly the most popular guy on campus. I've heard that people have threatened him when he "choked" and left nasty messages on his answering machine.

On the other hand, Chance Mock enjoyed a HUGE amount of popularity on campus and the UT forums before and after the first game (a majority still believe he should start, including me). Vince Young is also riding the popularity wave among the fans.

So, to answer your question, no.

He became more and more disliked after he replaced Major and then started "choking". As true fans would do, we didnt make the dissent public and visible to the enemy.


/damn, that was a rant...

Well I've heard in reports that in his freshmen year, he threw like a 59 yard bomb, and that everyone fell in love with him, like they just fell in love with Vincent Young. Nostalgia anyone?

The_Dude 09-04-2003 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AL9045
Well I've heard in reports that in his freshmen year, he threw like a 59 yard bomb, and that everyone fell in love with him, like they just fell in love with Vincent Young. Nostalgia anyone?
I dont think anyone has a QB controversy in mind. Mock is now a jr and has been on the waiting list for much more longer than Young, and thus is more deserving.

Vince Young did more than throw that pass. His running game was truely amazing.

Hrothgar 09-04-2003 08:30 PM

All I hear you guys talk about are Midwest and South teams. Haha the best football is played in Florida folks. The Canes were robbed by a blind judge... I mean line judge. The Luckeyes owe that judge a plaque in their trophy case.

GO CANES!!!!

djtestudo 09-04-2003 08:45 PM

Quote:

The Canes were robbed by a blind judge... I mean line judge. The Luckeyes owe that judge a plaque in their trophy case.
You mean because he paused a second to get the call right, which it was? Get over it. Save your grief for when you guys lose this year.

348Dav 09-04-2003 09:49 PM

USC TROJANS

If the other team can't score, they can't win.

Hrothgar 09-05-2003 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by djtestudo
You mean because he paused a second to get the call right, which it was? Get over it. Save your grief for when you guys lose this year.

Yeah I'll get over it. I mean we did lose in the National Championship game. You know not like Ohio State is Northern Illinois or anything.

air45 09-05-2003 07:08 AM

i am saying the wisconsin badger is top-rate!

go to bucky! he will win the game!

djtestudo 09-05-2003 08:48 AM

Badgers...we don't need no stinkin' badgers...

Ok, I'll shut up now...

sapiens 09-05-2003 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damnyankee
Michigan has an easy enough schedule to get there, but I don't think they'll win. As for OSU walking through the Big Ten last year, you must have missed the Michigan game. Michigan dominated both sides of the ball but could not score
Michigan always disappoints.

AL9045 09-06-2003 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hrothgar
Yeah I'll get over it. I mean we did lose in the National Championship game. You know not like Ohio State is Northern Illinois or anything.
GO MIAMI BASKETBALL!!!

Hrothgar 09-06-2003 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AL9045
GO MIAMI BASKETBALL!!!

AND CANES!!!!

BigGov 09-06-2003 09:11 PM

AUBURN!...oh wait...

RoadRage 09-06-2003 09:18 PM

Scratch Maryland and Auburn from the contenders, even if they manage to win their respective conferences.

I foresee the Oklahoma-Texas winner having about a 2/3 chance of being in the Sugar Bowl, with Oklahoma State playing the potential spoiler to either Oklahoma or Texas.

The_Dude 09-06-2003 09:49 PM

Miami, OSU and ND had trouble beating weaker opponents at home today.

I think that somebody will beat these teams on the road.

Hrothgar 09-06-2003 10:35 PM

Nah. Usually you have one chance to knock off a top rated team. Once you don't momentum sets in and they roll.


And the "weak" Gators would give alot of teams fits. San Diego State and Washington State are not in Florida's league.

Artermis 09-07-2003 06:13 PM

Michigan always disappoints?

I believe they won it in 1997.

OSU is a pretender. Barely beating a SDSU team with their 2nd team QB and the offense not scoring a touchdown. Very sad.

While the best team probably is in the Big 12 I think the fact that you will all beat up on each other makes it that much tougher for you all. Dont forget Colorado they are looking pretty good early season. KSU is the weakest out of OU, UT, CU because they dont play anyone. Division II teams? Give me a break.

FSU could have a real shot since I do not think the ACC is nearly as good as it was last year but they still got a tough schedule. WF seems to be the 2nd best team in the conference right now.

Tennessee looks very good and they beat a very game Marshall team who always gets overlooked. Georgia also looks half way decent. Florida choked against UM and that is going to hurt them. Auburn showed how much of a joke they were.

USC gave up 18 points to BYU so there goes the theory if they cannot score. Pac10 is the weakest big time conference this year. ASU is the only other team with a shot.

UM, VT and Pitt all very good but I think VT comes out of that whole thing in the best shape.

Wisconsin was not very impressive against Akron...sure they score 40+ but they gave up 30+. You should not give up that many points to a 2nd tier team (Marshall is a lot better than Akron).

In the end I see VT versus U of Michigan in the championship game (be great if one Big 12 came out undefeated also so that we could have a big ass fight about the BCS..:)


Art

Damnyankee 09-08-2003 05:32 AM

Great post artermis! Yep, I've been pretty impressed with Michigan so far. After the defense was rediculed, they stepped up and shut down Houston who could not do a thing. I would still like to see better results with the passing game. The power running game and Michigans defense is going to give a lot of teams fits this year.

GO BLUE!

monkeydriven 09-09-2003 08:22 AM

'Canes


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