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almostaugust · 08-18-2003, 07:57 PM

So its kicked off for another season....

I'm looking foward to seeing Chelsea play and wonder if thier multi million dollar lineup can string some goals together. Im a big fan of Damien Duff when he is on his game. Thier new strip looks pretty cool too.

Spartak · 08-19-2003, 06:12 PM

Chelsea are damn good now, Abramovich is a brilliant owner..

However, they can't hold a candle to my beloved Arsenal, that is until the FA stops hounding Sol Campbell.

Oh, and I hope Man U self-destruct, but it looks like they kept their flair from last season, and then some

almostaugust · 08-19-2003, 08:35 PM

Yeah, the FA are hounding Sol Campbell. Its Red Card city for him. It will shattter his confidence if they keep it up. That incident against Man U for the elbow was a joke.

Porkchop · 08-20-2003, 02:46 AM

Yes glad the season is up and running. Hope there are a few teams in contention this time. Also a place for my team Newcastle. You never know?

bundy · 08-20-2003, 06:39 AM

looking forward to a big year for Liverpool... with Kewell and Owen. thats a very pretty pair of forwards... lets hope it pays off.

Mad_Gecko · 08-20-2003, 12:04 PM

Well, so far we've had The pensioners, the arseholes, nukie, and the thieves..

(For you non english its - Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, and Liverpool in that order

)

Well for a big team thats doing shite, I'm not too sure about the upcoming season.

Chelsea - Do they have too much $$?
Arsenal - So close so often!
Newcastle - Dark Horses, Great manager, shame about the team. PS: Will they ever let mr. boring go paint his fence?
Liverpool - Gerrard is going to an early grave.

My Team - Could be ok, but they are pure shite, at least we are starting the season where we left it (bottom).

I'm an Aston Villa supporter btw. All shots welcome (unless your a birmingham town supporter).

EDIT: oops got the order wrong first time. Fixed it now!

Dbl Edit:

What do you think of Rio and Terry in the central defense? (lets ignore James for the time being). They have been all over the shop tonight IMHO.

almostaugust · 08-20-2003, 08:42 PM

Yeah im wondering if Chelsea has too much money. None of the guys speak the same language either.
Mad_Gecko, what happened to Peter Crouch, i had high hopes for that kid? Maybe he was just too tall. Hopefully he will get some goals this season with that Dion Dublin bloke next to him.

djflish · 08-21-2003, 11:03 AM

Arsenal all the way baby, yeah!

I'm hoping that my theory about Man Utd is true:

Man Utd are dominating the premier league with Alex Ferguson and Steve McClaren as Assistant manager.

Steve McClaren leaves for 'Boro and Man Utd go crap all of a sudden.

Man Utd sign Carlos Queiroz as assistant manager and they start winning again.

Carlos Queiroz has left Man Utd for Real Madrid.

Do you see where this is going?
Alex Ferguson=Shit
Hopefully Man Utd will start losing now!

HeAtHeN · 08-21-2003, 12:27 PM

I'm a Sunderland supporter..... nuff said right?

It hurts sooo much seeing the team I love fall apart like it is. Oh well....

Ei-Eye-Ei-Eye-Ei-Eye-Oh... off to Division Two we go....

Spartak · 08-21-2003, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djflish
Alex Ferguson=Shit

Oh yes!

more fire · 08-22-2003, 06:42 PM

TOON ARMY
yeah, I'm a newcastle man. This season will be our season.

Spartak · 08-23-2003, 03:36 AM

BAHAHA

24th Min: Sir Alex is sent off for what he said to Winter [Linesman]. Now Ferguson continues his verbal assault on Winter - clearly using some colourful language! Winter makes a note of what was said... the FA will be making a call, no doubt

I thought that was funny, until the live commentry dished up this little gem:

27th Min: Shearer breaks the deadlock with a trademark bullit header. He got the better of Silvestre, who lost his footing, and powered the ball into the top corner from eight yards out. 1-0!

Although, I do have 2 Man U players in my fantasy football league, infact the only reason Rio is there is so I can pick up points for clean sheets, but that's not good now... come on Ruud get a goal mate!

EDIT:

On the plus side, Ruud earned me 3 fantasy league points, on the minus he now pulled the game level.

EDIT EDIT:

Dammit, it started out so promising! Now in the 84th looks like its will be 2-1 to Man Yoo. The Gunners better thrash Middlesbrough tomorrow, otherwise I will be very bitter.

Mad_Gecko · 08-23-2003, 02:42 PM

almostaugust

I have no hopes for that striker. He was Mr Longballs (Turnip) best hope!.

I hope O'Leary leave him and Dublin in the 1st division. Oh yeah I think Vassell belongs there too. Unfortunately we didn't get Kevin! Argh! I'll be lucky to see em get 6-10

.

Porkchop · 08-24-2003, 03:01 AM

Let us see how Arsenal get on today against Boro? Mendiata could be a great signing for them.
Also yesterday i see Sunderland won thats maybe because Flo was leaving. Couple of friends who go to sunderland matches say he is or was total crap? Toon lost also . Oh well there is next week.
Thats the North East covered right there.

djflish · 08-24-2003, 09:33 AM

WOOHOO!

Arsenal 4-0 to the good!! Top of the table already, and therre for the rest of the season!! (Touch wood!)

Spartak · 08-24-2003, 02:19 PM

Oh yes!

Wiltord and Henry carving it up as usual.

Marius1 · 08-24-2003, 02:55 PM

Division One is where its at. Balls to the Prem.

Bluuuuueeeeebirds!

almostaugust · 08-25-2003, 04:13 AM

Porkchop,

I highly rate Flo. They should have held onto him i reckon.

djflish · 08-26-2003, 01:45 PM

flo did a good job at chelsea, but its been all down hill from there!
he's getting on a bit now.

Ian Wright, now that is the best striker any team could possibly have! what a legend

Marius1 · 08-26-2003, 03:06 PM

Chelsea didn't realise and respect what they had in Flo.
Had he been english they would have treated him like Micheal Owen (scored more goals than Owen in the same world cup). As he was foreign he had to take what match scraps he could get.

Had they developed him properly he would have been a football god.

He had a deceptive stride that made him look ungainly and slow when in reality he was zooming past and putting it in the net.
Unfortunately it was that false impression, that unfortunate illusion that fooled management as well as defenders.

almostaugust · 08-26-2003, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marius1
Chelsea didn't realise and respect what they had in Flo.
Had he been english they would have treated him like Micheal Owen (scored more goals than Owen in the same world cup). As he was foreign he had to take what match scraps he could get.

Had they developed him properly he would have been a football god.

He had a deceptive stride that made him look ungainly and slow when in reality he was zooming past and putting it in the net.
Unfortunately it was that false impression, that unfortunate illusion that fooled management as well as defenders.

Yeah i agree. They used to call him Flonaldo for a while there. He was a very deceptive player.

sakvee · 08-26-2003, 11:13 PM

Liverpool better bloddy win against Tottenham today. !^$#^!$&%

darkure · 08-27-2003, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marius1
Chelsea didn't realise and respect what they had in Flo.
Had he been english they would have treated him like Micheal Owen (scored more goals than Owen in the same world cup). As he was foreign he had to take what match scraps he could get.

It wasn't until this season the Chelsea and England really could be equated. For a while all they had were a few U21s and one or two others that did not get regular first-team England play. Last game Chelsea had four or five men in the squad.

So if Flo were English I don't think that would have made a significant English. As Chelsea dabbled heavily in the international market they were quite use to fielding players of other nationalities.

almostaugust · 08-27-2003, 07:11 AM

New Era fellas. Chelsea have signed Crespo! He sybolises the type of european player youd never think would play in the Premier league. Its come a long way since the days of Peter Beardsly and his testicles (anyone got a link to that pic).

MikeyChalupa · 08-27-2003, 07:36 AM

Leeds.

Only because their jerseys say "Strongbow" which I have found in my European travels to be the nectar of the gods.

I know nothing else about the team.

-Mikey

Marius1 · 08-27-2003, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by darkure
It wasn't until this season the Chelsea and England really could be equated. For a while all they had were a few U21s and one or two others that did not get regular first-team England play. Last game Chelsea had four or five men in the squad.

So if Flo were English I don't think that would have made a significant English. As Chelsea dabbled heavily in the international market they were quite use to fielding players of other nationalities.

It was a period in history where someone had said you can't win anything with youngsters and was proven wrong. However it was english youngsters that were media flavour of the month.

Chelsea didn't really go for youngsters but if it had possessed an English youngster who scored more goals than Owen in the same world cup they would have milked it for the attendance boost the same as Owen's club did.

djflish · 08-27-2003, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by almostaugust
Crespo! He sybolises the type of european player youd never think would play in the Premier league.

Crespo isn't european, he's argentinian. Or did u mean the type of player who plays in europe?

I didnt actually think chelsea needed any new strikers, hasselbaink and gudjohnsen would have done the job with the better supply from the new midfield, and carlton cole is a future england striker. he's quality striker and charlton have done well to get him on loan

almostaugust · 08-27-2003, 09:40 PM

Yeah i know he's argie, but he is the quintessential european style of player who would usually scorn the EPL. TV rights to the EPL at the moment are huge, im not surprised its starting to draw the players that it is.

darkure · 08-28-2003, 03:49 AM

Spain and Italy's TV rights are all messed up. In Italy last year they delayed the season two weeks, I think, becuase they did not have a TV contract ironed out. I believe they face a similar situation this year because there are one or two new satelite stations that want in on the Serie A gig. Sppain is split in it TV rights. The eight biggest clubs want to sign their own deals while the rest of the top division and all of the second want one deal that covers all teams.

djflish · 08-28-2003, 10:13 AM

i don't see why the football season is run around TV schedules, it should be the other way round!

sakvee · 08-28-2003, 05:04 PM

Liverpool better win their first game this weekend. %!@@^%

djflish · 08-29-2003, 09:14 AM

i can see them losing that game. i think moyes has done great things with everton, and at goodison they will be a tough team to beat.

from what i've seen of liverpool this season, they should think more about escaping relegation!

Arc101 · 08-29-2003, 09:47 AM

Forest supporter here stuck in Div 1. The things I am going to enjoy about the premier are watching Leeds go down, wondering how long it takes Wolves to let in 100 goals, and watching Ferguson complain, whine and cry as Man Utd win nothing this season.

HeAtHeN · 08-29-2003, 11:24 AM

Flo was toilet.... no other way to describe him. Another great purchase by Reid....

...as for Sunderland... we're now 2-2 and playing some great football (acording to my uncle, I live in Canada now

)

Porkchop · 08-30-2003, 11:37 AM

almostaugust.
Only seeing flo from tv he did not seem up to the job. Mates who go to the matches are pleased he is away.
Regarding Crespo he should be well suited to the premier, very good buy who knows who else will come into the premiership if they can attract that type of player.
Also want to say Newcastle the other night few in the team dont deserve champions league football. Shearer really needs a top notch partner. imo.

almostaugust · 09-01-2003, 03:43 AM

Man U lost. Hooray. Childish i know.

Spartak · 09-01-2003, 04:06 AM

More like "much needed downer".

Their arrogance was even worse than Arsenal's this time last season.

djflish · 09-01-2003, 11:26 AM

i really fancy arsenal for the title this season. the players realise they were too arrogant last season and fucked it up. now they want to work their socks off to win the title again
they showed that at man city

sakvee · 09-01-2003, 05:20 PM

Good to see Liverpool get a win and give Everton a thumping at Goodison. Arsenal are looking pretty damn strong again this season.

fatboss · 09-02-2003, 04:05 AM

Liverpool - Everton.

The division in class was bigger than Duncan Fergusons Right Elbow!!!!!!!

A VERY satisfying result for the Reds. Nice to see Kewell get his first so early in the season. Who would have thought they could play that well with Heskey, Murphy and Riise on the bench? Hats off to Biscan, he's suddenly realised he's a footballer and not a headless chicken!

Come On The Red Men!

08-18-2003, 07:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	English Premier league So its kicked off for another season.... I'm looking foward to seeing Chelsea play and wonder if thier multi million dollar lineup can string some goals together. Im a big fan of Damien Duff when he is on his game. Thier new strip looks pretty cool too.

08-19-2003, 06:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	Chelsea are damn good now, Abramovich is a brilliant owner.. However, they can't hold a candle to my beloved Arsenal, that is until the FA stops hounding Sol Campbell. Oh, and I hope Man U self-destruct, but it looks like they kept their flair from last season, and then some __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

08-19-2003, 08:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Yeah, the FA are hounding Sol Campbell. Its Red Card city for him. It will shattter his confidence if they keep it up. That incident against Man U for the elbow was a joke. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-20-2003, 02:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
Porkchop Psycho Location: Good ol Blighty	Yes glad the season is up and running. Hope there are a few teams in contention this time. Also a place for my team Newcastle. You never know? __________________ Be cool btch now btch be cool Sport 1976 Taxi Driver.

08-20-2003, 06:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
bundy . Location: Tokyo	looking forward to a big year for Liverpool... with Kewell and Owen. thats a very pretty pair of forwards... lets hope it pays off. __________________ Ohayo!!!

08-20-2003, 12:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mad_Gecko Pro Libertate Location: City Gecko	Well, so far we've had The pensioners, the arseholes, nukie, and the thieves.. (For you non english its - Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, and Liverpool in that order ) Well for a big team thats doing shite, I'm not too sure about the upcoming season. Chelsea - Do they have too much $$? Arsenal - So close so often! Newcastle - Dark Horses, Great manager, shame about the team. PS: Will they ever let mr. boring go paint his fence? Liverpool - Gerrard is going to an early grave. My Team - Could be ok, but they are pure shite, at least we are starting the season where we left it (bottom). I'm an Aston Villa supporter btw. All shots welcome (unless your a birmingham town supporter). EDIT: oops got the order wrong first time. Fixed it now! Dbl Edit: What do you think of Rio and Terry in the central defense? (lets ignore James for the time being). They have been all over the shop tonight IMHO. __________________ [color=bright blue]W[/color]e Stick To Glass "If three of us travel together, I shall find two teachers." Confucious Last edited by Mad_Gecko; 08-20-2003 at 12:12 PM..

08-20-2003, 08:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Yeah im wondering if Chelsea has too much money. None of the guys speak the same language either. Mad_Gecko, what happened to Peter Crouch, i had high hopes for that kid? Maybe he was just too tall. Hopefully he will get some goals this season with that Dion Dublin bloke next to him. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-21-2003, 11:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	Arsenal all the way baby, yeah! I'm hoping that my theory about Man Utd is true: Man Utd are dominating the premier league with Alex Ferguson and Steve McClaren as Assistant manager. Steve McClaren leaves for 'Boro and Man Utd go crap all of a sudden. Man Utd sign Carlos Queiroz as assistant manager and they start winning again. Carlos Queiroz has left Man Utd for Real Madrid. Do you see where this is going? Alex Ferguson=Shit Hopefully Man Utd will start losing now! __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

08-22-2003, 06:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
more fire Psycho Location: London	TOON ARMY yeah, I'm a newcastle man. This season will be our season.

08-23-2003, 03:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	BAHAHA 24th Min: Sir Alex is sent off for what he said to Winter [Linesman]. Now Ferguson continues his verbal assault on Winter - clearly using some colourful language! Winter makes a note of what was said... the FA will be making a call, no doubt I thought that was funny, until the live commentry dished up this little gem: 27th Min: Shearer breaks the deadlock with a trademark bullit header. He got the better of Silvestre, who lost his footing, and powered the ball into the top corner from eight yards out. 1-0! Although, I do have 2 Man U players in my fantasy football league, infact the only reason Rio is there is so I can pick up points for clean sheets, but that's not good now... come on Ruud get a goal mate! EDIT: On the plus side, Ruud earned me 3 fantasy league points, on the minus he now pulled the game level. EDIT EDIT: Dammit, it started out so promising! Now in the 84th looks like its will be 2-1 to Man Yoo. The Gunners better thrash Middlesbrough tomorrow, otherwise I will be very bitter. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind... Last edited by Spartak; 08-23-2003 at 04:54 AM..

08-23-2003, 02:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mad_Gecko Pro Libertate Location: City Gecko	almostaugust I have no hopes for that striker. He was Mr Longballs (Turnip) best hope!. I hope O'Leary leave him and Dublin in the 1st division. Oh yeah I think Vassell belongs there too. Unfortunately we didn't get Kevin! Argh! I'll be lucky to see em get 6-10 . __________________ [color=bright blue]W[/color]e Stick To Glass "If three of us travel together, I shall find two teachers." Confucious

08-24-2003, 03:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
Porkchop Psycho Location: Good ol Blighty	Let us see how Arsenal get on today against Boro? Mendiata could be a great signing for them. Also yesterday i see Sunderland won thats maybe because Flo was leaving. Couple of friends who go to sunderland matches say he is or was total crap? Toon lost also . Oh well there is next week. Thats the North East covered right there. __________________ Be cool btch now btch be cool Sport 1976 Taxi Driver.

08-24-2003, 09:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	WOOHOO! Arsenal 4-0 to the good!! Top of the table already, and therre for the rest of the season!! (Touch wood!) __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

08-24-2003, 02:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	Oh yes! Wiltord and Henry carving it up as usual. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

08-24-2003, 02:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
Marius1 Loser Location: Wales	Division One is where its at. Balls to the Prem. Bluuuuueeeeebirds!

08-25-2003, 04:13 AM	#18 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Porkchop, I highly rate Flo. They should have held onto him i reckon. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-26-2003, 01:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	flo did a good job at chelsea, but its been all down hill from there! he's getting on a bit now. Ian Wright, now that is the best striker any team could possibly have! what a legend __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

08-26-2003, 03:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Marius1 Loser Location: Wales	Chelsea didn't realise and respect what they had in Flo. Had he been english they would have treated him like Micheal Owen (scored more goals than Owen in the same world cup). As he was foreign he had to take what match scraps he could get. Had they developed him properly he would have been a football god. He had a deceptive stride that made him look ungainly and slow when in reality he was zooming past and putting it in the net. Unfortunately it was that false impression, that unfortunate illusion that fooled management as well as defenders.

08-26-2003, 11:13 PM	#22 (permalink)
sakvee Tilted Location: Behind you	Liverpool better bloddy win against Tottenham today. !^$#^!$&%

08-27-2003, 07:11 AM	#24 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	New Era fellas. Chelsea have signed Crespo! He sybolises the type of european player youd never think would play in the Premier league. Its come a long way since the days of Peter Beardsly and his testicles (anyone got a link to that pic). __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-27-2003, 07:36 AM	#25 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	Leeds. Only because their jerseys say "Strongbow" which I have found in my European travels to be the nectar of the gods. I know nothing else about the team. -Mikey

08-27-2003, 09:40 PM	#28 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Yeah i know he's argie, but he is the quintessential european style of player who would usually scorn the EPL. TV rights to the EPL at the moment are huge, im not surprised its starting to draw the players that it is. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-28-2003, 03:49 AM	#29 (permalink)
darkure Addict Location: Dodging the ice pick	Spain and Italy's TV rights are all messed up. In Italy last year they delayed the season two weeks, I think, becuase they did not have a TV contract ironed out. I believe they face a similar situation this year because there are one or two new satelite stations that want in on the Serie A gig. Sppain is split in it TV rights. The eight biggest clubs want to sign their own deals while the rest of the top division and all of the second want one deal that covers all teams. __________________ COYW

08-28-2003, 10:13 AM	#30 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	i don't see why the football season is run around TV schedules, it should be the other way round! __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

08-28-2003, 05:04 PM	#31 (permalink)
sakvee Tilted Location: Behind you	Liverpool better win their first game this weekend. %!@@^%

08-29-2003, 09:14 AM	#32 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	i can see them losing that game. i think moyes has done great things with everton, and at goodison they will be a tough team to beat. from what i've seen of liverpool this season, they should think more about escaping relegation! __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

08-29-2003, 09:47 AM	#33 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	Forest supporter here stuck in Div 1. The things I am going to enjoy about the premier are watching Leeds go down, wondering how long it takes Wolves to let in 100 goals, and watching Ferguson complain, whine and cry as Man Utd win nothing this season.

08-30-2003, 11:37 AM	#35 (permalink)
Porkchop Psycho Location: Good ol Blighty	almostaugust. Only seeing flo from tv he did not seem up to the job. Mates who go to the matches are pleased he is away. Regarding Crespo he should be well suited to the premier, very good buy who knows who else will come into the premiership if they can attract that type of player. Also want to say Newcastle the other night few in the team dont deserve champions league football. Shearer really needs a top notch partner. imo. __________________ Be cool btch now btch be cool Sport 1976 Taxi Driver.

09-01-2003, 03:43 AM	#36 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Man U lost. Hooray. Childish i know. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

09-01-2003, 04:06 AM	#37 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	More like "much needed downer". Their arrogance was even worse than Arsenal's this time last season. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

09-01-2003, 11:26 AM	#38 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	i really fancy arsenal for the title this season. the players realise they were too arrogant last season and fucked it up. now they want to work their socks off to win the title again they showed that at man city __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

09-01-2003, 05:20 PM	#39 (permalink)
sakvee Tilted Location: Behind you	Good to see Liverpool get a win and give Everton a thumping at Goodison. Arsenal are looking pretty damn strong again this season. __________________ Better to regret something you did, than something you didn't do.

09-02-2003, 04:05 AM	#40 (permalink)
fatboss Addict Location: Liverpool, UK	Liverpool - Everton. The division in class was bigger than Duncan Fergusons Right Elbow!!!!!!! A VERY satisfying result for the Reds. Nice to see Kewell get his first so early in the season. Who would have thought they could play that well with Heskey, Murphy and Riise on the bench? Hats off to Biscan, he's suddenly realised he's a footballer and not a headless chicken! Come On The Red Men! __________________ "never mind that shit........here comes Mongo!"