Beckham scores for Madrid. Anyone care? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

almostaugust · 08-06-2003, 06:06 AM

Well, Beckham put one in the net for his new club. Ronaldo's goal was pretty nifty too. Real Madrid sure are a force this coming season.

MikeyChalupa · 08-06-2003, 06:58 AM

Did he bend it like Beckham?

-Mikey

Scratch · 08-06-2003, 07:12 AM

Interesting comments from Denilson (Real Betis) comparing Beckham to Ronaldinho -

"Ronaldinho is far better than Beckham..."
"No one doubts that Beckham strikes the ball as well as anyone else in the world, but he doesn't beat men or have the individual close control..."
"On the other hand Ronaldinho has a host of other skills as well as being able to shoot well at goal. He has been demonstrating it ever since he started out at Gremio and will always be a different class of player"

Could just be Brazilian bias, but he makes some good points...

iceman2032 · 08-06-2003, 08:54 AM

I totally agree with Ronaldinho > Beckham. Don't worry it's not just a Brazilian bias

baboora · 08-06-2003, 07:06 PM

beckham is good...but i think he is overrated.

darkure · 08-06-2003, 08:06 PM

As has been show (and now confirmed by a movie) Beckham is great in dead ball situations. But I think Ronaldinho's ball handling and open field abilities surpass those of Beckham.

nickt · 08-06-2003, 08:30 PM

The thing about Becks is he is effective. His passing is brilliant and he has the vision to go with it.

Skills are not everything - Ronaldinho is obviously a more talented player on the ball...but what does he do with it? That is the all important question.

Another good example is Van Nistelrooy. No-one would argue that Ronaldo is a better player, but who is the more prolific goal scorer? Comes back down to effectiveness.

As a midfielder, Becks is world class. I am yet to see Ronaldinho match his effectiveness on the pitch.

almostaugust · 08-07-2003, 03:30 AM

Ronaldinho is the better player. And for Beckham to be regarded as one of the best in the world, in my eyes, he would have to be able to beat players with the ball at his feet.

ghostF98 · 08-07-2003, 11:46 AM

Nope, don't care.

ace81385 · 08-07-2003, 12:09 PM

Well according to real sports with bryant gumbel No one in america cares bout BEckham and i being from american second that notion I dont care

Eiresol · 08-07-2003, 12:32 PM

Beckham is a one trick pony. He's not world class.
What sort of winger (his original position) cant go past players?

^dude · 08-08-2003, 05:18 AM

they're showing his first like 5 matches on live tv here in the uk, ott i think.

Tandem · 08-08-2003, 06:09 AM

I don't think that even Beckham rates himself.
He knows he has some skill (obviously) but I'm sure he recognises that he's one of a large number of people who have similar skills.
(for some) Let him enjoy his profession - you'd appreciate some lattitude too if you were in his shoes I suspect.

Eiresol · 08-08-2003, 09:53 AM

If Sky Sports stop showing Barca matches in order to show Real ones, I'll be awfully pissed off.
Got to see quite a few Barcelona games on Sky Sports 1 on sunday evenings last season.

Great Scott · 08-09-2003, 12:22 AM

Usually I love to get into this sort of conjecture, but the great part of all this is that we're soon going to able to see what happens ourselves.

jhericurl21 · 08-10-2003, 05:56 PM

i think hes only good on freekicks, just sub him in when u need him, but on Madrid, more than enough players already on the pitch can strike the ball(Carlos etc). They just needed beckham for international exposure

fatboss · 08-11-2003, 04:13 AM

Well, he used to play not 20 miles down the road from me in Murky Manchester, and like all things, he will soon be forgotten.

We will only see him in the England games, which may be few and far between if they don't qualify!!

And yes, Sky Sports will probably start showing Real Madrid games and not Barcelona games because that's what THEY think we want to see.

bluearmy · 08-11-2003, 03:21 PM

.A lot has been made about his marketing value but when you look at the player you have to say that Beckham has quality, he has a superb work effort; a varied passing game and of course those free kicks. He has what all great players have and that is the knack of making time for himself on the ball. Comparisons to players like Ronaldhino do neither player justice.

08-06-2003, 06:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Beckham scores for Madrid. Anyone care? Well, Beckham put one in the net for his new club. Ronaldo's goal was pretty nifty too. Real Madrid sure are a force this coming season.

08-06-2003, 07:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Scratch Upright	Interesting comments from Denilson (Real Betis) comparing Beckham to Ronaldinho - "Ronaldinho is far better than Beckham..." "No one doubts that Beckham strikes the ball as well as anyone else in the world, but he doesn't beat men or have the individual close control..." "On the other hand Ronaldinho has a host of other skills as well as being able to shoot well at goal. He has been demonstrating it ever since he started out at Gremio and will always be a different class of player" Could just be Brazilian bias, but he makes some good points... __________________ We thought that we had the answers It was the questions we had wrong - Bono

08-06-2003, 08:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
darkure Addict Location: Dodging the ice pick	As has been show (and now confirmed by a movie) Beckham is great in dead ball situations. But I think Ronaldinho's ball handling and open field abilities surpass those of Beckham. __________________ COYW

08-06-2003, 08:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
nickt Whaddya mean my hair is "GREEN"??? Location: Melbourne	The thing about Becks is he is effective. His passing is brilliant and he has the vision to go with it. Skills are not everything - Ronaldinho is obviously a more talented player on the ball...but what does he do with it? That is the all important question. Another good example is Van Nistelrooy. No-one would argue that Ronaldo is a better player, but who is the more prolific goal scorer? Comes back down to effectiveness. As a midfielder, Becks is world class. I am yet to see Ronaldinho match his effectiveness on the pitch. __________________ AND WHERE.......... ...is the Batman?

08-07-2003, 03:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Ronaldinho is the better player. And for Beckham to be regarded as one of the best in the world, in my eyes, he would have to be able to beat players with the ball at his feet. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-06-2003, 06:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	Did he bend it like Beckham? -Mikey

08-06-2003, 08:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
iceman2032 Crazy	I totally agree with Ronaldinho > Beckham. Don't worry it's not just a Brazilian bias

08-06-2003, 07:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
baboora Tilted	beckham is good...but i think he is overrated.

08-07-2003, 11:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
ghostF98 Tilted Location: texas	Nope, don't care.

08-07-2003, 12:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
ace81385 Insane	Well according to real sports with bryant gumbel No one in america cares bout BEckham and i being from american second that notion I dont care

08-07-2003, 12:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Eiresol Crazy	Beckham is a one trick pony. He's not world class. What sort of winger (his original position) cant go past players?

08-08-2003, 05:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
^dude Insane	they're showing his first like 5 matches on live tv here in the uk, ott i think.

08-08-2003, 06:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tandem Insane Location: Brisbane, Australia	I don't think that even Beckham rates himself. He knows he has some skill (obviously) but I'm sure he recognises that he's one of a large number of people who have similar skills. (for some) Let him enjoy his profession - you'd appreciate some lattitude too if you were in his shoes I suspect. __________________ It is not a mistake, but an experience. But, if you've experienced it before then you should already know if it is a mistake.

08-08-2003, 09:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
Eiresol Crazy	If Sky Sports stop showing Barca matches in order to show Real ones, I'll be awfully pissed off. Got to see quite a few Barcelona games on Sky Sports 1 on sunday evenings last season.

08-09-2003, 12:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
Great Scott Insane Location: In a huge maze just trying to find my cheese	Usually I love to get into this sort of conjecture, but the great part of all this is that we're soon going to able to see what happens ourselves.

08-10-2003, 05:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
jhericurl21 Banned	i think hes only good on freekicks, just sub him in when u need him, but on Madrid, more than enough players already on the pitch can strike the ball(Carlos etc). They just needed beckham for international exposure

08-11-2003, 04:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
fatboss Addict Location: Liverpool, UK	Well, he used to play not 20 miles down the road from me in Murky Manchester, and like all things, he will soon be forgotten. We will only see him in the England games, which may be few and far between if they don't qualify!! And yes, Sky Sports will probably start showing Real Madrid games and not Barcelona games because that's what THEY think we want to see. __________________ "never mind that shit........here comes Mongo!"

08-11-2003, 03:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
bluearmy Insane Location: uk	.A lot has been made about his marketing value but when you look at the player you have to say that Beckham has quality, he has a superb work effort; a varied passing game and of course those free kicks. He has what all great players have and that is the knack of making time for himself on the ball. Comparisons to players like Ronaldhino do neither player justice.