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crewsor 07-03-2009 09:42 AM

TFP Fantasy Football 2009
 
Yahoo reports fantasy football registration is now available. Just sayin...

essendoubleop 07-06-2009 06:45 AM

You beat me to it. I created a league at Yahoo for TFPers. I commissioned the league for a couple years way back but took a break from it last year.

The league ID #: 207527
Password: tilted

The draft is tentatively scheduled for late August but I can change it if we have to.

Cross-Over 07-06-2009 07:38 PM

Just a heads up, Yahoo did not offer any semblance of a fair waiver system last year in their Free league, but ESPN did.

This is not a complaint. I did not play in TFP last year and wasn't planning on it this year (already have two leagues committed too), but just wanted to throw out a heads up.

MontanaXVI 07-07-2009 12:33 AM

I'll join....as always if I am not the one running it.

Just curious Cross Over, what did you find unfair about the waiver system?

crewsor 07-07-2009 04:09 AM

I'm in, SCREAMING EAGLES. I'll be at the beach that week for the draft, but hopefully will have internet access.

dksuddeth 07-07-2009 06:24 AM

I'm in. midway monsters.
never done fantasy football before. any tipsters are welcome.

Jetée 07-07-2009 09:12 AM

I've been trying to get into the TFP league for nearing two years now, but I was always away somewhere else before I had the chance to get involved.

I'm glad I have the opportunity this year.

My team'll be Kilmarnock's Legend. (It took me awhile to come with that one, and I'm still not fully sure what it means)

grumpyolddude 07-07-2009 11:44 AM

I'm in as Lions Lose... Again! again. Proved prophetic last season. We'll see if they can keep the streak alive!

New name this season Montana? The Archivist will probably have a remark or three on that subject!

The 4 division concept looks like it could be fun. 8 team playoff... no byes, sounds good. Now we need to fill all 16 slots!

(Who's idea was a 9:30 Saturday night draft?)

TheRealOdin 07-07-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cross-Over (Post 2664590)
Just a heads up, Yahoo did not offer any semblance of a fair waiver system last year in their Free league, but ESPN did.

This is not a complaint. I did not play in TFP last year and wasn't planning on it this year (already have two leagues committed too), but just wanted to throw out a heads up.

What's this waiver system? I'm not familiar with that.

I did the Yahoo fantasy league for a few years, but the premierleague started to do one, so I jumped ship for the last 2 seasons.

indebut 07-07-2009 03:09 PM

I'm in... should be interesting with the divisional setup

dksuddeth 07-07-2009 04:10 PM

is there a fantasy football for dummies link somewhere?

Jetée 07-07-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dksuddeth (Post 2665160)
is there a fantasy football for dummies link somewhere?

I gained the barely useful knowledge I have now by being thrown in midseason and learning why some wide recievers/running backs get more "looks/touches" than others.

I guess this link could be of value to anyone, but for you and me especially, I'd venture, since this is only my second FF team.

Fantasy Football Draft Kit - Free Fantasy Football Leagues, Rankings and more -- ESPN

MontanaXVI 07-07-2009 04:56 PM

I use The Usual Suspects in just about every league except this one so I just finally took it across all leagues.

I just noticed 16 teams, HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAN!!!

That is gonna be BRUTAL

essendoubleop 07-07-2009 05:26 PM

Starting to see some teams I remember from past years. I was once the Dungeon Family, but have reincarnated into Benjamin3000. We should really keep track of the history of Tilted Fantasy Football. I have records of the past four years, does it go back farther than that? Call me a geek, but I think a small wiki would be cool with historical standings, and TFPers.

I would be SHOCKED, if were unable to fill the 16 slots. This league usually fills up at 12 pretty quickly. I think the 4 divisions adds another wrinkle to FF. Once we get all 16 teams accounted for, I'll start tinkering with the schedule and come up with something interesting.

Everybody okay with the draft date? Grumpyolddude, I may change it to an earlier time, but let's wait until we get closer to draft day.

grumpyolddude 07-07-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontanaXVI (Post 2665193)

I just noticed 16 teams, HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAN!!!

That is gonna be BRUTAL

Yeah, the talent pool will get spread rather thin, especially after the inevitable injuries start occurring. Things should get pretty scrambly a few weeks into the season. Fun:thumbsup:

crewsor 07-07-2009 06:28 PM

If you participated in the TFP leagues you should be able to see the archived results. Mine show TFP football going back at least to 2004. And just mentioning, being the defending champion from last year.:thumbsup:





All Fantasy Games
Overall Performance: Help
Game Year Rank Team League Commissioner Private League
Baseball 2009 7 of 10 * SCREAMING EAGLES The Tilted Diamond No Yes
Baseball 2008 5 of 12 SCREAMING EAGLES The Tilted Diamond No Yes
Football 2008 1 of 10 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Time No Yes
Pro Football Pick'em 2008 5 of 13 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Forum Project No Yes
Baseball 2007 6 of 12 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted League Baseball No Yes
Football 2007 3 of 10 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Time No Yes
Pro Football Pick'em 2007 1 of 5 SCREAMING EAGLES TFP pickum Yes Yes
Baseball 2006 8 of 12 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Batter's Box No Yes
Baseball 2006 11 of 12 SCREAMING EAGLES Tiltedbaseball_Roto No Yes
Football 2006 4 of 10 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Time No Yes
Football 2006 5 of 12 SCREAMING EAGLES Jeremy Conn Show 2 No Yes
Pro Football Pick'em 2006 3 of 14 SCREAMING EAGLES TFP No Yes
Baseball 2005 6 of 11 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Time No Yes
Football 2005 9 of 10 SCREAMING EAGLES Tilted Gridiron No Yes
Pro Football Pick'em 2005 3 of 13 Crewsor TFP pickum Yes Yes
Baseball 2004 5 of 14 Screaming Eagles Majorly Tilted Baseball No Yes
Football 2004 2 of 12 SCREAMING EAGLES TFP Football No Yes
Baseball 2003 2 of 10 Screaming Eagles TFProject.org Private League 1 No Yes
Football 2003 5 of 10 Screaming Eagles Yahoo Public 417388 No No

MontanaXVI 07-07-2009 07:28 PM

look around here for the 2008 fantasy thread and I believe I put up the past results in there

djtestudo 07-07-2009 07:29 PM

Raveners back for another season of getting my ass kicked!

Jetée 07-07-2009 07:40 PM

man, is this how it is every year?

I can't believe I missed this experience for the past two years I've known about fantasy football. 15 other teams, though, will glaringly show how much of a dilettante I truly am.

I might have placed runner-up in my inaugural and rookie debut in another FFLeague, but it was an eight-man league, and to boot, I missed my draft. If I had to rely on myself instead of the computer, my team never would've had Warner, Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, both the Steelers and Ravens D, as well as B. Marshall, C. Cooley, & O. Daniels. That's how the cards fell.


Hopefully some of last year's luck will rub off here as well. :thumbsup:

grumpyolddude 07-07-2009 07:56 PM

My archived results only show last year... damn, there's a lot of history missing!

Oh, well, time to make some new memories, eh?

Don't worry, Jetée . The trash talk hasn't even begun, yet!

dksuddeth 07-10-2009 09:32 AM

I find this extremely interesting, especially since i'm an Orton fan.

Kyle Orton: the next great fantasy QB

Last February, we wrote an article anointing Aaron Rodgers the next great fantasy QB. This year, we’re giving that title to Orton. Call us crazy, but considering the fact that the man who had his job last year threw for 4,525 yards and 25 TDs, it’s not that far fetched. The 26 year old Orton has been officially named the Broncos starter, and will have plenty of weapons to toss the rock to in Josh McDaniels’ pass friendly spread offense. Considering he threw for nearly 3,000 yards and 18 TDs last season in Chicago’s conservatively boring attack, we believe he’s ready for fantasy stardom. And, best of all, he can be had for a pretty darn low price.

MontanaXVI 07-10-2009 09:57 AM

Here is a bootleg way of looking at old leagues.

Go to the league page from last season

http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nfl/2008/26143

(I ran the league last year) and use the drop down box above the standings (I linked previous years leagues) so you can see past league results.

We maybe kinda should get in the habit of having one commish for each sport who sets up the MAIN or primary TFP league per sport.

I know in years past there has been more than one league and someone volunteered to run it, but if we have a standard commish year in and year out for a main league we can keep a nice running total via that linked league thingy on the league page. Also if there are enough teams maybe even possibly the winner of a secondary league gets automatic bid into the main league the following season? That could just be me making too much of it though.

grumpyolddude 07-10-2009 01:37 PM

I'm not familiar with tfp having more than one league at any given time. I recall our fantasy league and the in house pick-'em that we've had, but that's all. Have you been holding out on me?

I'd like to see us max out this league, then see what happens next. Frankly , I'm trying to find a way to not run my company's pick-'em this year.

Thanks for the link,, Montana! It'll be fun to go back and reread some of those recaps and get inspired for another season of sarcasm and ridicule. Grow some thick skin, fellas! You know it's all good-natured fun:thumbsup:

DDDDave 07-10-2009 08:50 PM

I'm in.

The Usual Suspects is in my division which is not a good thing.

Oh well. Not too long until draft day.

Cross-Over 07-11-2009 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontanaXVI (Post 2664678)
Just curious Cross Over, what did you find unfair about the waiver system?

In Yahoo's free league, you could pick up a free agent during a game. For example. somebody picked up Matt Cassell during the games when Tom Brady tore his ACL. People can use the counter argument about hand-cuffing your top picks, but this is rarely done with QBs and would really spread you thin if you hand-cuffed RBs, QBs, etc.

Additionally, ESPN allowed free live score tracking of the fantasy games, and yahoo did not. You could buy the stat tracker in yahoo for $5-$10, but why bother if it could be free in ESPN. ESPN sent out a group email saying there were providing the same free features as last year, so I would pick it over Yahoo.

Jetée 07-11-2009 10:56 AM

The "big" news is that Yahoo! now offers free-live score updating, so it is now on-par with ESPN's system. I think I actually preferred waivers on Yahoo! last year compared to ESPN's "tues. set, thurs. claim., sun. lock" method. It was confusing to say the least.


Now that I have been tinkering with Yahoo!'s mock draft lobby, I can honestly say that autopicking sucks. I tried some 15-20 rounds over the past 3 days, and it has become evident to me that if you miss your Yahoo! live draft, you will invariably struggle/lose in your league.

I don't know if other fantasy football providers allow you to choose a picking-option for each round,
e.g. Rd 1-RB Rd 2-RB or WR Rd 3-QB or WR Rd 4-WR or TE, etc.
but the way Yahoo!'s autopicking aims to fill your starting roster first, then draft 1 backup RB and QB, 2 backup WRs, and a backup kicker really defeats the purpose of creating your own draft rankings.

Dr Zoom 07-11-2009 11:07 AM

First time for everything TFP Fantasy Football, I look forward to the fun.

MontanaXVI 07-11-2009 11:13 PM

YEARS ago, Yahoo used to have free Stat Tracker then they got freedy and started charging for it, but now that so many places offer free scoring they had to give it away again if they wanted to keep people. Also lowered the price of their Plus! leagues to $29.99 per league as opposed to the $125.99 in years past.

You can pick up a FA during the game, but cannot start them so I guess that is fair. I have played in MANY MANY leagues that have it either way (free for all style, or Tues-Thurs style with everyone being a FA Fri-Sun)

I don't have a preference for either one, I roll with whatever.


As for multiple TFP leagues I could have SWORN that sometime in the past someone had started up a 2nd league because one was full, may have been baseball though and not football or I could very well just be loony. That isn't out of the question.

Jetée 07-13-2009 03:25 PM

Ah, ESPN has exactly the feature I was thinking about—they call it "autopicking stategy", and it would appear Yahoo! has no such feature enabled within free leagues (have no idea if it is in Plus! either). :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetée (Post 2667192)
Now that I have been tinkering with Yahoo!'s mock draft lobby, I can honestly say that autopicking sucks. I tried some 15-20 rounds over the past 3 days, and it has become evident to me that if you miss your Yahoo! live draft, you will invariably struggle/lose in your league.

I don't know if other fantasy football providers allow you to choose a picking-option for each round,
e.g. Rd 1-RB Rd 2-RB or WR Rd 3-QB or WR Rd 4-WR or TE, etc.
but the way Yahoo!'s autopicking aims to fill your starting roster first, then draft 1 backup RB and QB, 2 backup WRs, and a backup kicker really defeats the purpose of creating your own draft rankings.

This is what it looks like:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3438/draftpage.jpg

pan6467 07-13-2009 04:16 PM

If there's room I'm in.

grumpyolddude 07-14-2009 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pan6467 (Post 2668651)
If there's room I'm in.

As of 11 am EST, we've room for 4 more teams. dive on in, Pan!

Gebbinn 07-14-2009 07:40 AM

I am in.. team Off Constantly... that way when I lose, you can say you beat off constantly. WOOT, looking forward to a great season.

crewsor 07-14-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gebbinn (Post 2669078)
I am in.. team Off Constantly... that way when I lose, you can say you beat off constantly. WOOT, looking forward to a great season.


I think a majority of people here could say that regardless of the outcome.:crazy:

MontanaXVI 07-14-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crewsor (Post 2669288)
I think a majority of people here could say that regardless of the outcome.:crazy:



+1

essendoubleop 07-14-2009 01:14 PM

A WORD FROM THE COMMISH
---------------------------------

Welcome to the 2009 season of Tilted Fantasy Football! I'm going to do everything I can to make sure this is the best season yet. I have a few notes about the upcoming season.

-There are only 3 spots left! If you are debating whether or not you want to participate this year, please decide soon. I expanded the league to 16 teams this year, but there will always be willing members who are left out.

-Make sure you take some time to look over the league settings. This league does not use the standard Yahoo scoring settings. It IS a PPR league (points-per-reception) but receptions are still only lightly weighted. Understanding the way this league's scoring is geared will help you make decisions during the draft.

-If you are new to fantasy football, there is a plethora of information out there. ESPN has some user friendly guides to bring you up to speed. Along with Yahoo, they also provide mock drafts so you can acquaint yourself to the draft process and get a feel for where players are being drafted at.

-Please post team logos or pictures at your team page. Multicolored helmets are boring and add little to the league. Let's try to spice up our league and inject a little creativity into it.

-Week 11 will be rivalry week. It's the first week when all players have completed their byes and a pivotal game just before the playoffs begin. If you want to call out a team and start some rivalries, now is the time to do it. Otherwise, I will assign rivals.

-If someone wants to take the initiative to post the results from past seasons of Tilted fantasy football, the information is out there. I don't know where the best site would be to host the history of the league along with the results, standings, and users. I would help out with it if someone wants to get the ball rolling on that.

-Finally, MAKE SURE YOU SHOW UP FOR THE DRAFT. Inevitably, teams that miss the draft either have a decreased interest in the rest of the season and stop adjusting their rosters, or they are stuck with a crappy team courtesy of autopick. If you know will not be able to make the draft, at least move players who are retired, injured for the season, or unsigned to the bottom of your pre-rankings.

**The draft is currently set for Sat Aug 22 6:30pm PDT/9:30 EST**

Looking forward to a great season in 2009, and hoping everyone has FUN!






P.S. Unfortunately, it will be a waste as team Benjamin3000 will reign supreme...

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/q...in3000copy.jpg

Jetée 07-14-2009 01:24 PM

Once the teams get set, will we be able to vote on how much we like or dislike the scoring system?

I am okay with it as is, but would still like to offer a suggestions for the PPR system, like for "every 3 receptions, you get 1 point, or for every 5 receptions, you get 3 points". I do like the way you set the punt returners' method to obtaining points.

I think with sixteen teams, good point-producing players will be spread inexorably thin, therefore the scoring system can counteract the slight of proficient players by flexing the points in extra addition.

MacGuyver 07-14-2009 03:49 PM

Mass Minutemen

BurntToast 07-14-2009 04:49 PM

I joined as Casual Insanity. Hope I don't embarrass myself too bad.

essendoubleop 07-14-2009 05:15 PM

ONE spot left.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetée (Post 2669313)
Once the teams get set, will we be able to vote on how much we like or dislike the scoring system?

I am okay with it as is, but would still like to offer a suggestions for the PPR system, like for "every 3 receptions, you get 1 point, or for every 5 receptions, you get 3 points". I do like the way you set the punt returners' method to obtaining points.

I think with sixteen teams, good point-producing players will be spread inexorably thin, therefore the scoring system can counteract the slight of proficient players by flexing the points in extra addition.


As for raising the value of receptions, this could backfire. I've seen leagues where the teams with receiving running backs dominate the league. There's only a few workhorse running backs in the NFL who play a major role in the passing game and they can win leagues.

Or is it also being suggested to remove the fractional points (right now receptions are worth .2) by awarding points every so many catches? I was thinking about changing this too. It's the only statistical category that has fractions. This isn't necessarily a problem as it does act as a tiebreaker between teams on a small scale.

Jetée 07-15-2009 04:44 AM

Perhaps I meant to lower the very high plateau set on obtaining those extra points awarded; in the case of the points for receiving, I think the bar is set too high at 150 yards (ah, I see now that you lowered both rushing and receiving to 100 yards to receive 1 point, or maybe I read it wrong from the start). I wouldn't be ooposed to seeing the opinions of others on accumulated percentage for reception. I thought a quarter was on the low side, but it is currently set that for every five receptions, you get that whole point.

Maybe I don't value one single point; I don't know--I'd love to see it raised to 2, but that's just my personal preference (but not any higher than that). Also, I mean to say that my advice or preference for scoring would be that: for every 100 rushing/receiving effort, that player would be awarded 2 additional points; for every 5 receptions, that player would be awarded 2 additional points.

That's my take.


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