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Old 05-08-2009, 02:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Should Obama pardon Jack Johnson?

Well... first of all it wont do him much good now.

And second of all, I am sure that many many black men suffered even graver injustices than Jack Johnson (who by and large apparently had a pretty comfortable time in prison, given the amount of times he was reported for refusing to do any work and no action was taken...)

But is it not a disgrace to America that one of its great sporting champions was, within a couple of generations of some people who are still alive, sentenced to prison for the crime of taking a white lover?

Jackie Robinson seems to be revered in baseball as an almost Christ-like figure (well he was humble, more or less said the right things and looked at the bigger picture). Jack Johnson, a trailblazer who had to walk a far harder road, is still seen as difficult, arrogant, troublesome in some representations - simply because he decided to live as if racial prejudice should not exist.

As I understand there have been attempts to do this in 2004 and 2008, and John McCain is backing a new campaign.

I think, in terms of symbolism, it is the RIGHT thing for America to do to say that being a black man and screwing a white women shouldnt have landed you in jail, even 90 odd years ago.

As one of America's greatest sportsman (in my opinion the greatest boxer who has ever lived, but I think in human beings opinion in the top 50), his name deserves to be cleared.

The fact that Obama is black isnt the reason to do this, the fact that its the right thing is the reason. If Bush can pardon his mates who are up on corruption charges, I think the public should tolerate Obama pardoning someone who happens to be of the same race in a symbolic gesture to say that the government harrasment of Jack at the time was wrong.

I'd really like to see this campaign get momentum and go all the way. Would like to think that wherever he is, Jack would be getting a kick that people are still talking about him.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm only just reading this as I don't spend much time in the sports forum here. I have no problem with Obama pardoning Jack Johnson, but there are some factors to consider.

1--Outside of a handfull of blacks and even fewer hardcore boxing fans, most people will view the injustice done to Johnson as ancient history best forgotten. 2--As you mentioned, it's not like Johnson was horribly mistreated or physically harmed. 3--Obama is going to have to choose his battles wisely. This might be one to avoid because some people would use the pardon as a reason to accuse Obama of being a racist pandering to black voters.
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Old 05-25-2009, 11:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Which does give you the rather ironic situation that if McCain had won - he WOULD have pardoned Jack (I think we have to make that assumption given that he is now leading the campaign)

I cant disagree that a lot of people had many worse fates than Jack Johnson due to the colour of the scene, but I guess what really does trouble me is the difference between the way white America views someone like Jack to the way they view someone like Joe Louis.
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