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QuasiMondo 02-11-2009 07:11 PM

Favre retires...again
 
New York Jets quarterback Favre: 'It's time to leave' - ESPN

I think its' finally for real this time. His resurgence during his final season in Green Bay made him think he had more years than he really had. His comeback in New York was then doused with a shot of reality.

Fair winds and following seas, Brett. I wonder how long it'll be before the Jets start angling to pry Cassel away from the Patriots?

bazkitcase5 02-11-2009 07:35 PM

he is probably done, but I am not buying it just yet

I think he'll start to wonder how things would have been had he not had a torn bicep and if he had a better team

I think it will come down to if he thinks he can get out of New York or not...

thespian86 02-11-2009 08:09 PM

I think he's done

Bear Cub 02-12-2009 11:31 AM

He's done. Nobody would take him back even if he wanted to come back. Its clear he can't hold up past 11 weeks anymore.

Glory's Sun 02-12-2009 11:45 AM

nah he's really done this time.

He came back for that one shot because he wondered if he could do it again.. he found out he couldn't. I think he's realized that and is ready to leave for good and wait for his HOF induction.

MacGuyver 02-12-2009 04:07 PM

I think it's a shame how Brett went about this whole retirement bit, because for the past couple years it has been a media circus, and has transformed from something noteworthy, to me feeling like "who cares, as long as this isn't the top story every damned day."

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Originally Posted by QuasiMondo (Post 2594539)
I wonder how long it'll be before the Jets start angling to pry Cassel away from the Patriots?

As far as this is concerned, don't worry, I've already seen supposed trade rumors about this. I certainly don't think that's going to happen unless the Pats get a pretty penny or two... or three... or a whole lot more.

shakran 02-13-2009 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MacGuyver (Post 2594871)
I think it's a shame how Brett went about this whole retirement bit, because for the past couple years it has been a media circus, and has transformed from something noteworthy, to me feeling like "who cares, as long as this isn't the top story every damned day."

I have friends who work in news in Green Bay. The saying is, if Brett Favre farts, it's the lead story. They're sick of the retirement crap (and everything else to do with the packers ) For years now he's waffled and whined at the end of the season. It's interesting how he went from being a virtual god in that town to being a near-pariah in some circles (there are and always will still be the Favre Fanboys) because he kept jacking the team and the fans around.

Redlemon 02-13-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by QuasiMondo (Post 2594539)
I wonder how long it'll be before the Jets start angling to pry Cassel away from the Patriots?

Only if (a) Brady is healthy again and (b) the Jets are ready for big big bucks. See: Cassel accepts franchise tag from Patriots - The Boston Globe.

Also, (c) hell freezes over. With the bad blood between the Jets and Pats, I don't think this move would be possible.

guyy 02-13-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shakran (Post 2595048)
I have friends who work in news in Green Bay. The saying is, if Brett Favre farts, it's the lead story. They're sick of the retirement crap (and everything else to do with the packers ) For years now he's waffled and whined at the end of the season. It's interesting how he went from being a virtual god in that town to being a near-pariah in some circles (there are and always will still be the Favre Fanboys) because he kept jacking the team and the fans around.

I have a friend who works in sports broadcasting. He's a big Favre fan because he thinks Favre gives a more interesting interview than the guys who step up and give 110% and play it one day at a time. He's less guarded.

Favre became a pariah for the same reason that striking workers get dumped on: he went against his bosses who shoved him out trying to get their boy in. When Favre fought back, they hired Ari Fucking Fleischer to make him look bad. That and they like their Führerprinzip around the Fox River Valley.

grumpyolddude 02-13-2009 08:39 PM

I won't believe he's serious until we get past training camp.

shakran 02-13-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by guyy (Post 2595269)
I have a friend who works in sports broadcasting. He's a big Favre fan because he thinks Favre gives a more interesting interview than the guys who step up and give 110% and play it one day at a time. He's less guarded.

Yeah, the chance that he'll cry on camera always makes it more interesting ;)

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Favre became a pariah for the same reason that striking workers get dumped on: he went against his bosses who shoved him out trying to get their boy in. When Favre fought back, they hired Ari Fucking Fleischer to make him look bad. That and they like their Führerprinzip around the Fox River Valley.

Bah. Farve wasn't shoved out. He /retired./ Tell ya what. Go up to your boss tomorrow, tell him you're quitting, and then come back in 4 months and tell him to give you your old job back after he already hired your replacement. See how well that works for ya ;)

MacGuyver 02-14-2009 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shakran (Post 2595287)
Bah. Farve wasn't shoved out. He /retired./ Tell ya what. Go up to your boss tomorrow, tell him you're quitting, and then come back in 4 months and tell him to give you your old job back after he already hired your replacement. See how well that works for ya ;)

Agreed. You can only go back and forth so many times before one party gets sick of what's going on.

Strange Famous 02-15-2009 09:39 AM

Great career. Last year didnt do much for his legacy, but it also didnt tarnish it. You cant take away from the guy what he has achieved.

I think he would have been better off retiring as a Packer.

Xazy 02-15-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2595793)
Great career. Last year didnt do much for his legacy, but it also didnt tarnish it. You cant take away from the guy what he has achieved.

I think he would have been better off retiring as a Packer.


The back and forth with his team, the allegations of him negotiating with other teams while still negotiating with the packers, I feel tarnished to a degree his reputation. He could have gone out as one of the few players who was true to a team, and that he can not regain now.

guyy 02-15-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shakran (Post 2595287)
Bah. Farve wasn't shoved out. He /retired./ Tell ya what [...]

Living in Wisconsin, i've heard that line umpteen times. I think its repetition illustrates my point about people getting upset about Favre defying workplace & class authority. I don't know why that bugs people so much. Jealously, i suppose, but a little organising, and they wouldn't have to prostrate themselves before the Boss, either.

Anyway, Thompson gave Favre an artificial deadline and told him he was sending his locker to him in Mississippi /before/ the retirement. Favre did what he could to keep playing ball. The Packers could have simply released him -- after all, he wasn't good enough for McCarthy or Thompson -- but since they refused, he had to force a move on their part.

Jimellow 02-15-2009 10:03 PM

It's my understanding that if he comes out of retirement, he's still under contract to play on the Jets, which I think is good in the sense that he can't just retire and come back as a means to change teams.

I like Favre and think he should have retired on the Packers. He was a legacy there, and playing on the Jets seems like a silly decision, especially now that it's turning out to be such a short stay.

I don't think either party in Green Bay handled the situation as well as they could, but at least it won't be on the news as much this time around.

shakran 02-15-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by guyy (Post 2595976)
Living in Wisconsin, i've heard that line umpteen times. I think its repetition illustrates my point about people getting upset about Favre defying workplace & class authority. I don't know why that bugs people so much. Jealously, i suppose, but a little organising, and they wouldn't have to prostrate themselves before the Boss, either.

Did I misinterpret you, or are you saying that people are mad at Favre because they aren't in a union?


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Anyway, Thompson gave Favre an artificial deadline and told him he was sending his locker to him in Mississippi /before/ the retirement. Favre did what he could to keep playing ball. The Packers could have simply released him -- after all, he wasn't good enough for McCarthy or Thompson -- but since they refused, he had to force a move on their part.
The "artificial deadline" was "you've pulled this whining wishy washy crap for years. We have a season to plan for. Make your damned decision."

guyy 02-16-2009 06:36 AM

Favre had more power than a lot of folks would in a similar situation. Why did it piss them off so much that he used it?

cameroncrazy822 02-16-2009 07:45 AM

I've had enough of this guy already. He's gone and I'm glad.


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