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Strange Famous · 08-22-2009, 01:11 PM

his second 100 was slower than Johnson's old 200 record... theres definitely more to come

highthief · 08-22-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish

someone care to tell me why in the last few years we've seen an influx of carribean athletes? the sprints used to be dominated by the americans, but it seems that the carribeans have taken that mantle. the way i see it is that anytime a particular nation has dominated a particular sport, like athletics, there is always a reason. The soviets, the chinese, the americans, now the carribeans. it's all too peculiar if you ask me.

Coaching? Better nutrition in otherwise impoverished nations? Improved training facilities? Moving athletes away from other sports (in the West Indies cricket is a good example) and into track? The money that is now on offer for top track athletes? More Caribean athletes on scolarships to top US colleges? A growing belief within Caribean (and specifically Jamaican) society that they are the greatest of runners?

What is the reason the Kenyans and Ethiopians are dominant in middle and longer distance races? The Brits, Scandanavians, and Americans were once quite good at those distances ...

bazkitcase5 · 08-26-2009, 11:13 PM

it just makes it so easy to not believe when he didn't just set the record, but he destroyed the old one

as mentioned, that just sends red flags up everywhere

put me in the camp that wants to believe, but finds it incredibly difficult to do so...

Strange Famous · 08-28-2009, 11:45 AM

There has been a LOT of cheating and doping in track, especially in the sprints... and NO ONE has ever done what Bolt has done to records.

In my opinion the manner it which he is smashing records actually makes the cheating allegations fatuous. Why juice up to get an extra 1/100 of a second when youre already 3 metres faster than anyone in the world?

And look at him? He isnt bulked up, he isnt a huge guy? he runs in a vest that is about two sizes too big for him.... Usain Bolt is (imo) simply a once in a lifetime athlete, he is simply a beast.

When he ran 9.58 ... fuck me... I mean Dwayne Chambers juiced for years and was running, what 9.9? Ben Johnson ran 9.8 and was off his tits on the juice. I just cant see it. I dont see him as a cheat.

If he is, track is dead...

But like I sad somewhere else... Bakele has a record that is also ridiculous and no one is saying he is juicing. Tyranesh Debarber (badly sic I know) is in a class of her own... no thinks she is on steroids... Michael Phelps is palpably ahead of the whole field in swimming, there are none of these "too good to be true" allegations about him... whats the difference? That he's white and American?

08-22-2009, 01:11 PM	#41 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	his second 100 was slower than Johnson's old 200 record... theres definitely more to come __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

08-28-2009, 11:45 AM	#44 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	There has been a LOT of cheating and doping in track, especially in the sprints... and NO ONE has ever done what Bolt has done to records. In my opinion the manner it which he is smashing records actually makes the cheating allegations fatuous. Why juice up to get an extra 1/100 of a second when youre already 3 metres faster than anyone in the world? And look at him? He isnt bulked up, he isnt a huge guy? he runs in a vest that is about two sizes too big for him.... Usain Bolt is (imo) simply a once in a lifetime athlete, he is simply a beast. When he ran 9.58 ... fuck me... I mean Dwayne Chambers juiced for years and was running, what 9.9? Ben Johnson ran 9.8 and was off his tits on the juice. I just cant see it. I dont see him as a cheat. If he is, track is dead... But like I sad somewhere else... Bakele has a record that is also ridiculous and no one is saying he is juicing. Tyranesh Debarber (badly sic I know) is in a class of her own... no thinks she is on steroids... Michael Phelps is palpably ahead of the whole field in swimming, there are none of these "too good to be true" allegations about him... whats the difference? That he's white and American? __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

08-26-2009, 11:13 PM	#43 (permalink)
bazkitcase5 Crazy Location: Tupelo, MS	it just makes it so easy to not believe when he didn't just set the record, but he destroyed the old one as mentioned, that just sends red flags up everywhere put me in the camp that wants to believe, but finds it incredibly difficult to do so...