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QuasiMondo · 11-04-2007, 01:12 PM

This thread is to discuss The Greatest Football Game Of All Time that's minutes away from kickoff.

Anybody who disagrees, is a football hating commie who's probably upset that their team lost today.

So come on in, and let the peanut gallery commentary begin!

Strange Famous · 11-04-2007, 01:21 PM

England 4 - West Germany 2 (1966)

QuasiMondo · 11-04-2007, 01:37 PM

Twists and turns afoot!

Vinateri misses a FG!

Brady sacked on the first play!

filtherton · 11-04-2007, 01:55 PM

Are you talking about the one between the chargers and the vikes, where at the very least three nfl records were set?

QuasiMondo · 11-04-2007, 02:03 PM

No, I'm talking about the one that's been overly hyped since Week 1.

What was he thinking with that pass?

djtestudo · 11-04-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by filtherton

Are you talking about the one between the chargers and the vikes, where at the very least three nfl records were set?

Hah! I was going to say that

DeathProof · 11-04-2007, 03:59 PM

Colts in the lead 20-17.

My team, the Packers, won today =D

QuasiMondo · 11-04-2007, 04:23 PM

Colts 20, Pats 24

Now I get to gloat to my coworker who went against my suggestion for this week's picks.

DeathProof · 11-04-2007, 07:15 PM

Another good game will be Packers vs. Cowboys.

Redlemon · 11-05-2007, 08:00 AM

"Super Bowl XLI+1/2". Whew, that was a brutal game to watch. I look forward to reading the Indy papers.

I'd also like to complain that the Patriots were required to beat the referees in addition to beating the Colts. The second defensive pass interference call was totally bogus, along with the offensive pass interference call on Moss.

Ilow · 11-05-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

"Super Bowl XLI+1/2". Whew, that was a brutal game to watch. I look forward to reading the Indy papers.

I'd also like to complain that the Patriots were required to beat the referees in addition to beating the Colts. The second defensive pass interference call was totally bogus, along with the offensive pass interference call on Moss.

Yeah, I don't like to complain about officials, because often it is a matter of bias, but the 1st half penalties were 120 yards to 5, and several of the calls and non calls were ridiculous. I hope the league was looking into it. apparently that crew has a habit of calling offensive pass interference penalties. Those teams were very even, but the officiating made it a real uphill battle for the Patriots. It will be nice for the Pats to have the tiebreaker for once, screw the RCA dome, have fun in Foxboro in January, Peyton.

Frosstbyte · 11-05-2007, 11:21 AM

I was really disappointed with that game. Neither team looked great, the officiating was poor. The plus sides were that I got to see a LOT of pouting from both Brady and Manning, which is really what I value most. By the end, I think I was going for the Pats and loved their last minute win, but I think I would've been happiest to see both teams lose. I lament the impossibility of that result.

I was expecting a clean, high powered game from both teams and saw a lot of sloppy mistakes and botched plays. Not really what you hope to see when a game is touted as a half superbowl.

Redlemon · 11-05-2007, 11:47 AM

I was reading on another board, and found a great post regarding the officiating problems. Rather than try to claim it for my own, I'll just quote it:

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I'm definitely not above whining about some bad calls, but I'm usually pretty quick to point to mistakes the players themselves made that were more influential on the game. And I'm ALWAYS quick to poo-poo any conspiracy talk. In this particular game, Tom Brady made two mistakes (1 horrendous - under thrown ball that should have been 6, ended up leading to Addai's great catch and run for 6 the other way) and another just a fantastic play by the Colts LB on an unwise throw.

That being said, something was not adding up about the officiating in this game. There was heavy action on the Patriots this week from what I've heard (I'm not a gambler). There were a bevy of bad calls and each one went against New England. Here's a list of woeful or at least questionable calls that all come from the top of my head (so I may have the times/names a little messed up).

1. Colts first drive of the game. WR makes a catch on the sideline, with two officials in PERFECT position to make the right call. This play wasn't even close, yet it's called a catch. Both guys totally boned the call, the Patriots burn a challenge early.

2. First drive (I think) Manning throws deep to Wayne in the end zone. Harrison has it played well and may have a beat on a pick. Wayne tackles him from behind. No flag. I might buy that the ball was uncatchable, but I didn't see that signaled.

3. The first deep ball PI against the Patriots. This was not PI, but at the time I could honestly see why an official could make the wrong call and chalked it up as a bad call.

4. The second deep ball PI against the Patriots (Hobbs?). This was the worst call of the game. Hobbs was never once out of position. I was completely dumfounded by this one.

5. Second quarter, 3rd and six. Faulk has a step on the Linebacker cutting over the middle but is forced to attempt to make the catch one handed as the linebacker hooks his left arm. Incomplete. Tom Bray loses his cool, searches out each individual official to complain.

6. On the play before the two minute warning, the Patriots tackle addai a solid 3-4 yards behind the first down marker. Granting forward progress, even a generous spot would have left him 1-2 yards short. This sets up a crucial third down (run out the clock? Pass?). CBS goes to commercial. They come back and the Colts have a first down due to "forward progress." No replay is shown, but Simms seems shocked. The colts go on to score on Addai's fabulous catch and run. We were inside two minutes, so the only challenge can come from the booth. The spot is not challenged.

7. Randy moss is called for offensive pass interference in the end zone. The call is made by the official that is screened by the colt defender. Replay clearly shows there was no push off and if anything a flag could have gone against the Colts. I would have kept the flag in my pocket as it looked like a pretty clean play all around.

That's all I've got off the top of my head. Given that list, I'm frankly STUNNED the officials got the crucial force out call correct (Stallworth's catch on the winning drive) and called a critical holding on the Colts (against Seymour) on the drive prior to that. Is it just my blatant homerism that makes me think this was one of the worst officiated games since AT LEAST the Steelers/Seahawks Superbowl?

No, I don't think the order came from on high (Goodell) to fix the game. But yes, a part of me does think the NFL should look closely at these officials. If they aren't somehow corrupt, then they were just awful.

Outside of the Brady blowup in the first half, I'm proud of the Patriots for keeping their cool.

Also, this is hitting the news now:

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Patriots Saying Colts Cheated?
5th November, 2007 - 1:23 pm
Yahoo! - The NFL is looking into allegations that the Indianapolis Colts piped in noise during the game Sunday between the Colts and the Patriots. The charge comes after Patriots President Jonathan Kraft became the latest NFL team executive to accuse the Colts of the distracting tactic that is against the rules.

"We're aware of it and we're looking into it," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday. "It may just be the TV feed from CBS, but we're checking it out."

Observers at the game said there seemed to be a "skip" in the sound during the game Sunday, which the Patriots won 24-20. That might confirm the long-held suspicion among many people in the NFL that the Colts play loud crowd noise to help distract opponents when the other team is on offense.

"We're aware of the accusations, but there has never been anything to substantiate it," Aiello said.

Kraft approached NFL Vice President of Security Milt Ahlerich after Kraft and his parents, Patriots owners Bob and Myra Kraft, left the Patriots locker room after the game.

So much for that squeeky-clean image, Coach...

Link to the skipping audio sound-clip

Frosstbyte · 11-05-2007, 01:23 PM

That is a BIZARRE little clip. Definitely hard to know if it was really recorded that way or if it was a CBS screw up. Would be hilarious to find out they'd sunk to that low.

Plan9 · 11-05-2007, 01:27 PM

The Pats / Colts (24/20) game last night made me enjoy football for the first time in forever.

troit · 11-05-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

Also, this is hitting the news now:

So much for that squeeky-clean image, Coach...

Link to the skipping audio sound-clip

The league better nip this kind of crap in the bud or they will lose million, perhaps billions, in revenue. Who wants to watch a sporting event where each team is trying to out-cheat the other....

djtestudo · 11-05-2007, 02:57 PM

Supposedly CBS is admitting the sound problems were their fault.

The officiating was atrocious though, and as a fan of sports teams in the ACC, I KNOW bad officiating.

I was rooting for the Colts (I still feel dirty), and I'll even admit there were bad calls, and even at least one bad non-call (the grab of Kevin Faulk where Brady looked like he was about to kill the referee).

dlish · 11-06-2007, 04:34 AM

footy for me is rugby league.. footy to the english is soccer.. and footy to u guys is nfl..

the greatest football game was when the balmain tigers were playing the canberra raiders in 1988 where benny elias misses a field goal in the dying minutes. hits the cross bar. and the tigers end up losing in extra time.

other than that i have no interest in other forms of football

paddyjoe · 11-06-2007, 05:21 AM

Browns....3rd in a row

life is good!

cameroncrazy822 · 11-06-2007, 09:13 AM

NOT the 11/05/07 Ravens/ Steelers game!!!

Gotta say, being born and raised in Baltimore, it's the 1958 NFL Championship game between the "Baltimore" (the real Colts) and the New York Giants. Didn't see it by many many many years but the whole lead up and circumstance between the leagues coming together for the first time was pretty neat to watch (retrospectively of course).

11-04-2007, 01:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
QuasiMondo Wise-ass Latino Location: Pretoria (Tshwane), RSA	The Greatest Football Game Of All Time This thread is to discuss The Greatest Football Game Of All Time that's minutes away from kickoff. Anybody who disagrees, is a football hating commie who's probably upset that their team lost today. So come on in, and let the peanut gallery commentary begin! __________________ Cameron originally envisioned the Terminator as a small, unremarkable man, giving it the ability to blend in more easily. As a result, his first choice for the part was Lance Henriksen. O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist but Cameron did not think that such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer. -From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator

11-04-2007, 01:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	England 4 - West Germany 2 (1966) __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

11-04-2007, 01:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
QuasiMondo Wise-ass Latino Location: Pretoria (Tshwane), RSA	Twists and turns afoot! Vinateri misses a FG! Brady sacked on the first play! __________________ Cameron originally envisioned the Terminator as a small, unremarkable man, giving it the ability to blend in more easily. As a result, his first choice for the part was Lance Henriksen. O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist but Cameron did not think that such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer. -From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator

11-04-2007, 02:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
QuasiMondo Wise-ass Latino Location: Pretoria (Tshwane), RSA	No, I'm talking about the one that's been overly hyped since Week 1. What was he thinking with that pass? __________________ Cameron originally envisioned the Terminator as a small, unremarkable man, giving it the ability to blend in more easily. As a result, his first choice for the part was Lance Henriksen. O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist but Cameron did not think that such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer. -From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator Last edited by QuasiMondo; 11-04-2007 at 02:32 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-04-2007, 04:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
QuasiMondo Wise-ass Latino Location: Pretoria (Tshwane), RSA	Colts 20, Pats 24 Now I get to gloat to my coworker who went against my suggestion for this week's picks. __________________ Cameron originally envisioned the Terminator as a small, unremarkable man, giving it the ability to blend in more easily. As a result, his first choice for the part was Lance Henriksen. O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist but Cameron did not think that such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer. -From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator

11-04-2007, 01:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Are you talking about the one between the chargers and the vikes, where at the very least three nfl records were set?

11-04-2007, 03:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
DeathProof Upright	Colts in the lead 20-17. My team, the Packers, won today =D

11-04-2007, 07:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
DeathProof Upright	Another good game will be Packers vs. Cowboys.

11-05-2007, 08:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	"Super Bowl XLI+1/2". Whew, that was a brutal game to watch. I look forward to reading the Indy papers. I'd also like to complain that the Patriots were required to beat the referees in addition to beating the Colts. The second defensive pass interference call was totally bogus, along with the offensive pass interference call on Moss. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

11-05-2007, 11:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	I was really disappointed with that game. Neither team looked great, the officiating was poor. The plus sides were that I got to see a LOT of pouting from both Brady and Manning, which is really what I value most. By the end, I think I was going for the Pats and loved their last minute win, but I think I would've been happiest to see both teams lose. I lament the impossibility of that result. I was expecting a clean, high powered game from both teams and saw a lot of sloppy mistakes and botched plays. Not really what you hope to see when a game is touted as a half superbowl.

11-05-2007, 01:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	That is a BIZARRE little clip. Definitely hard to know if it was really recorded that way or if it was a CBS screw up. Would be hilarious to find out they'd sunk to that low.

11-05-2007, 01:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	The Pats / Colts (24/20) game last night made me enjoy football for the first time in forever. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

11-05-2007, 02:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Supposedly CBS is admitting the sound problems were their fault. The officiating was atrocious though, and as a fan of sports teams in the ACC, I KNOW bad officiating. I was rooting for the Colts (I still feel dirty), and I'll even admit there were bad calls, and even at least one bad non-call (the grab of Kevin Faulk where Brady looked like he was about to kill the referee). __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

11-06-2007, 04:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	footy for me is rugby league.. footy to the english is soccer.. and footy to u guys is nfl.. the greatest football game was when the balmain tigers were playing the canberra raiders in 1988 where benny elias misses a field goal in the dying minutes. hits the cross bar. and the tigers end up losing in extra time. other than that i have no interest in other forms of football __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

11-06-2007, 05:21 AM	#19 (permalink)
paddyjoe through charlatans phone Location: Northcoast	Browns....3rd in a row life is good!

11-06-2007, 09:13 AM	#20 (permalink)
cameroncrazy822 Junkie Location: MD	NOT the 11/05/07 Ravens/ Steelers game!!! Gotta say, being born and raised in Baltimore, it's the 1958 NFL Championship game between the *"Baltimore"* (the real Colts) and the New York Giants. Didn't see it by many many many years but the whole lead up and circumstance between the leagues coming together for the first time was pretty neat to watch (retrospectively of course). Last edited by cameroncrazy822; 11-06-2007 at 09:19 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost