Craven Morehead

Got 4 tickets to game 4. Baseball in October. WOOT!

Its CUBtober,baby.


The ump blew it in Denver. Really bad. Too much was at stake for him to be so nonchalant on that call. Bad deal, but neither team executed exceptionally well.

kutulu

Tickets actually get as low as $15 (at least they were that cheap for season ticket holders). I was offered some great seats for $75 but I'm so freaking broke it isn't funny right now. With the prices you guys are paying it would almost be cheaper to fly here and watch the game. lol.

I'm hoping AZ's baserunners will run like hell against Kendall. He's 5-57 at throwing out base stealers. Ouch. Look for Eric Byrnes to steal 2nd and maybe 3rd each time against him.

guy44

Yeah, no kidding with the prices. I know some people who might make the drive...

Also, hopefully Soto will start more often. He's better defensively, has a better arm, and oh yeah, hits about twice as well. Man I hope he starts...

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pan6467

I must say the idea of an Indians vs. Cubs World Series actually intrigues me. Hell, it excites me.

And without being biased.... all the other teams are ho hum.... boring I don't see any other match up even 1/2 as exciting.

Hey Cubbies.... we WILL be there what about you?

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Ha.. an Indians Vs Cubbies matchup better than a Bo'Sox v Cubbies matchup? No way...

About the call at the end of the Pad's game.. it was a makeup call for the missed home run.. that's a no brainer.

I'm trying to find some decent Sox tickets.. but I'm so damn picky.. I did find some pavillion seats for $1000, but since I'd like to keep my balls intact.. I won't be buying those.

For the Indians to make the ALCS, they have to get out of game 1 and forget they got swept the last 6 games by the skanks..

For the Bo'Sox they just have to do what they have been doing against the Angels and they'll be fine.. especially considering the health of Vlad and Matthews Jr.

The Cubbies..well.. I'm not so sure they can win.. Sure on paper they look better but it's the fucking Cubs.. let's not forget that.

Rockies over Phillies because of coaching and power arms.

The_Jazz

I agree about the Bo'Sox vs. Cubs being the more intriguing, although vs. Indians is definitely second place.

Yankees over Indians in 5. Sorry, Pan. Nothing personal, it's just that the Indians can't seem to get over that particular hump.

Sox over Angels in 4. I'm tempted to say 3 given their health.

Rockies over Phillies because they're on fire right now. There's an outside chance they could run the tables for the whole damn thing.

Look for there to be a significant number of Cubs fans in AZ, especially if the home team's not snapping up the tickets. It's possible it might feel like a neutral site. Because of that Cubs in 4.

Unfortunately, I can't slur in type, but imagine I'm doing so when I say "Cubs win! Cubs win! Cubs win!".

I still miss Harry 10 years later...

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kutulu

I hadn't heard of Soto, impressive. However, he might not be eligible for the postseason roster. Typically a player has to be on the team by August 31, 2007. There is an exception, a player can replace someone on the disabled list but I think the guy he replaces has to play the same position. This is the loophole that allowed Francisco Rodriguez to play for the Angels in 2002. Have you heard that he is eligible?

sscott

damn that rockies padres game last night was amazing, thats probably the longest baseball game I've ever watched without falling asleep. I thought it was over when Julio gave up the 2 walks and homerun in the 13th, I remember him from the orioles, he was always a disaster

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goddfather40

Predictions for the DS:

Angels over Red Sox in 4 - God I wish we had home field but I got to keep the faith. Lackey vs. Beckett tomorrow will be a dandy. Angels must exorcise demons!!!!! I think the pitching is a wash and fielding is pretty even (slight edge to BOS). I think the Angels actually have a better hitting team than Boston. Higher BA, only 40 or so fewer runs than BOS without the benefit of Fenway.

Indians over Yankees in 5 - CC and Carmona are just too damn tough in a 5 game series, even against the vaunted Yankees lineup

Rockies over Phillies in 5 - The two hottest teams go at it. Colorado has homefield, so I'll use that to decide the series.

Cubs over D'Backs in 4 - Another tough call. Arizona has a very balanced, though somewhat unimpressive lineup. I think that the Cubs starting pitching is a little better with CZam, Lilly, Marshall, etc. compared to the D'Backs Webb, Davis, Owings, etc.

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doodlebird

i'm not a regular contributer to the sports forum
(i'm a reds and bengals fan... so i usually keep that to myself)
but i thought some of you baseball fans might like my last contribution to titled art.

it was truly AMAZIN' to watch the NL east finish.
not in a million years would i have pegged glavine to give it up like he did IN THE FIRST!!

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...10#post2319110

...and if that was not the greatest one game playoff in history....

i like Sox v. Tribe and Rox v. Snakes.

with a Sox v. Rox WS.

do i think it'll happen?
no. i just like the sound of it.

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Glory's Sun

Well, let's look at the series stats

Boston LA

BA:
.290 .260

R
64 42

SB
7 10

HR
9 7

K
64 67

ERA:
3.99 6.04

Let's add that to the fact that Lackey sucks balls at Fenway.. and Matthew's Jr and Colon aren't even making the trip, it doesn't look good for the Halo's. Stranger things have happened.. but.. it may end up being a 3 game series.

kutulu

Two things, Philly has homefield, they won the NLE and the Rox won the Wild Card. Great matchup.

The Cubs are going to a three man rotation: Z, Lilly, Hill. I don't know if that is better or worse for them. Being as effective on three days rest is tough. I think the DBacks in 5.

goddfather40

Yeah, I forgot the whole thing about the team that wins the division still gets home field despite a worse record.

Well, the Angels game sucked

Beckett was absolutely lights out. You got to tip your cap to him. Game 2 is a must win now.

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Craven Morehead

wtf was the flashing red neon thing behind home plate in the 9th inning of the Cubs/Dbacks game? A death ray?

kutulu

Classless bullshit is what it was. Whatever, it didn't phase Papa Grande. Great pitching by Webb. Great hitting by Drew and Reynolds. Reynolds has been a great story this season. Called up from AA after Tracy went on the DL because the first and second options in AAA were injured at the time. He had made a name for himself as a guy who could hit but didn't have a position. He ended up playing good enough D at 3B for teh DBacks and hit really well at times.

Beckett. Wow. He has started 6 total postseason games. Three have been shutouts. Amazing.

Glory's Sun

I think we all know who should be the AL CY winner now...

Beckett was amazing..again. He started what.. 18 consecutive batters with 1 strike?? Dude is insane in the playoffs.. I'm just glad he's on my side this time. The Sox offense is still a little lethargic, but I think it's starting to turn the corner. If it does, watch out.. there will be another parade in Boston

I didn't watch the Dbacks Cubs game.. so when I saw Z leave the game and the homerun.. I had a good laugh this morning. I just knew the Cubbies would screw something up. Now, that's to take anything away from Webb or the Dbacks, it's just not surprising. I'm sorry, I can understand what Pinella was thinking, but damn, you have to actually get to game 4 first. If the Cubs had won I guess we'd be saying he was brilliant.. such is the life of a manager.

Ilow

I'm just glad this thread moved past the sixth page's shouting red annoyance at the top of the page. Beckett was lights out last night, and being able to bring him back on regular rest has got to be scary for Soscia. Knowing Beckett is looming to start later in the series makes these next couple games must win for the Angels, I think. Soscia is already aggressive, but i would expect him to take some extra chances, especially with a banged up lineup. I am huge Beckett fan, but if Sabathia won the Cy Young, I would not feel like he got robbed, that guy was dominant and his stats hold up or surpass Beckett's in several areas. Now it would be completely criminal if Coco Crisp and Youkillis do not win Gold Gloves at CF and 1B.

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kutulu

Tulo and Holliday go back to back in the first inning against the Phillies. Wow. It sucks that the voters are going to overlook Tulo, he deserves ROY over Braun. Earlier last month I had picked Braun first and Loney second, completely overlooking Tulo. After discussing it with some others online, I shifted to Tulo. Braun's defense is so bad that it almost negates any offensive benefit.

Rox now up 6-3 on a Kaz Matsui slam. Damn.

Craven Morehead

Agree. Heard an interview with this so called fan today on the radio. He's all pizzled because MLB confiscated his light thingy. I think it was a Cubs logo in neon. He said he turned it off when the pitcher was pitching. So what? No place for that behind the plate. Kind of spooky to see that, actually. The dude should have been ejected and not allowed to return tonight. More dollars than sense, I guess he goes to all major Chicago games (regardless of team). BFD.

Go CUBS Go!

kutulu

Fucking Yankees.

Kadath

Agreed, though it seems like they're getting fucked...for now. Being a Tribe fan means never being comfortable.

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pan6467

New York WHO????????????

a hahahahahahahahahaha

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If I were an Indians fan I sure wouldn't be boasting too much.. at least not yet.

Cubs fans however, go ahead and start the tears. No way are the Cubbies coming back.

kutulu

Awesome win last night. Check out Lilly's reaction to Chris Young's 3 run bomb:

Glory's Sun

He must have taken some notes from Zambrano when he strikes out.

pan6467

INDIANS WIN INDIANS WIN


FUCK THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

INDIANS WIN INDIANS WIN
FUCK THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

1 Yankee with an RBI Abreau.... the rest overpaid LOSERS.


Where's ARod????
Where's Jeter????
Where's Damon and Posada???????

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I have to say that ARod really is earning his reputation for choking in the clutch. But I'm not too proud of the Indians hitting tonight. They left what, 15 on base? Horrifying. Got to get it together if you're going to win it all, boys.

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Ilow

dude, you have got to stop this, no one hates the Yankees more than me, but act like you've been there.

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robodog

I can't believe just how good our (Cleveland's) pitching is. The $200M Yankee lineup is batting just .120 so far in the series. I mean I knew we had good pitching when I attended the game where we briefly took sole possession of best record, and at the time we had TWO guys over .300 and one of those was like .302. You don't have the best record in baseball with basically one guy over .300 without PHENOMENAL pitching. I'm so much happier than I was in the 90's when we had decent bats but meh pitching, I knew we had little chance of winning it (but damn it we got close, freaking game 7) then but I think if we can get there this time we have a much better chance, experience or not.

kutulu

Bartman sighting at Chase Field:

pan6467

The pitching is that damned good, and look who we have given away and who is coming up.

On the other hand, we also are pretty low on hitting and we're probably going to say goodbye to Blake.

It could be the 90's all over in the reverse order (solid pitching instead of hitting).

If that's what it is I see the same 90's results... good season, close post seasons but no WS rings. The Braves are a great example of this, as are the Athletics.

AS for "acting like we've been there". WE HAVE. However, I am not one to be silent or cool in this aspect. I want to rub the naysayers and doubters faces in it. Too many on this board keep saying "the Indians will lose...." and I take great pleasure in watching them proven wrong and I love big red letters showing they are wrong.

When and if the Indians lose one of the series they can do it to me and I will take it for what it is.... sports.

And sports give us an escape, give us hope, entertainment and we need that in this part of Ohio where fine men and women who are working hard are losing good paying jobs faster than anywhere in the country. Where these men and women are trying hard to achieve the American dream on wages that 20 years ago were embarrassing.

So if my getting exuberant and carried away embarrasses and looks childish, fuck it take it for what it is worth.

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troit

Yanks still holding on....Do they get out of this series?

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pan6467

I don't think so, I think they had tremendous pitching from Hughes (the Tribe wasn't prepared for) and the "George" factor..... I think it ends tonight with the Tribe finishing it.

On a side note, I was truly saddened by what I saw in Roger Clemens, a man who should have stayed retired and left at the end of last year. What I saw on the mound tonight may have been a man putting all his heart out there, but it was a man who was a shadow and made a mockery of his past greatness. It was kind of like seeing the '86 version of Lefty Steve Carlton trying to eke out one more good game, while just embarrassing and putting to shame great memories of one of the game's greatest ever.

Give it a rest Roger stay buried and be remembered as the great you were not as someone trying to beat out father time and be a hero... all you are doing is destroying your pride, feeding your ego and hurting your team and fans.

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doodlebird

he's doing all of the above AND making a shit ton of money at the same time.

and, Mr. Indian-lover, let us not count our post season chickens before they hatch. i'm sure you've seen lesser teams come back from 2-0 holes. umm. wait. that's a 2-1 one hole. the tribe is one loss away from what's essentially a one game playoff.

and it's some what unimportant who wins this series. the red sox are too much for either the indians or the yankees.

this is the first year in my life i've been more interested in the AL than the NL. (always been an NL fan)

any bets on when the rockies will lose a game?
they don't seem to be able to lose right now.
i doubt the snakes can put out that fire.

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pan6467

Fair is fair and like I stated we're farther than anyone expected us to be, it's a young team and with a couple of improvements the Tribe will be a force in the coming years.

I'm not as worried about the Yankees or the Sox as I am the Rox.... they scare me. They are the type of team that comes out of nowhere and wins it all then next season they'll return to mediocrity.

The Yankees, I really don't see them doing much tonight.... AND if it does end in Cleveland.... I hope the Tribe wins...if not feel free to hit me with the BIG RED letters and a few FUCK YOUs .... The Tribe had a great run and have one of the brightest futures in baseball.

PS: I, too, am more of an NL fan.... my favorite team is still and will always be my beloved Cincinnati Reds... but alas they will always suck and I do love my Indians, but in a REDS/Indians WS it's REDS baby, otherwise I pull for both and root for both.

Just like the Bungals.... I root for them, never been much of a Browns fan (I'll root for them, but again, Cincy is my team), in fact never was much of a Pro football fan until about 5-6 years ago. Live and die for the OSU Buckeye footballers though.

The Cavs.... I'm a front runner there, I really don't like basketball much, but hey we have King James soooooo a front runner/ band wagon jumper, I shall be. Because, in the long run, it's good for the local economy and as stated above gives hope and escape to a depressed area.

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Kadath

I don't get this phenomenon. I had a coworker who's a Yankees fan try to talk to smack to me this morning. The Yankees avoided getting swept, and people are now talking like it's a foregone conclusion that they're going to win?

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Mister Coaster

To call the team that was on the field for my Angels "banged up" would have been an understatement. Injuries happen, thats a fact of life, but when nearly half of the regular starting lineup has some sort of health issue, vs. a 100% team, the inevedible happens. The team that got us there simply wasn't on the field... sigh.

Living in Denver, I'll have to jump on the Rockies bandwagon. They are both healthy and hotter than sin. Go Rockies!?!

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kutulu

Sweeping the Cubs was so great. The first pitch HR by Young was insane. What a way to rip their hearts out right away. Drew capped it off by hitting one to the street. A good point that someone informed me of was that although the Cubs and DBacks both had pretty good pitching, AZ faced good pitching all year. All the other NLWest teams had ERAs quite a bit better than league average. The rest of the NL Central teams had ERAs quite below the league average.

NLCS time now. Who would have thought that the Rockies and Dbacks would be matching up at the end of the year? Amazing. I wonder what kind of odds you would have gotten at Vegas for picking the teams. TBS must have shit a thousand bricks when they realized this would be the matchup.

Colorado has lost one time in the last few weeks. To Brandon Webb. AZ can start him 3 times in the series. The only problem with that is that the Rockies have hit him well this year. Perhaps it changes now. Livan started 5 games against the Rockies and had a 1.50 ERA.

Glory's Sun

Ahh the Red Sox.. they have made me proud so far. Sure, the Angels weren't 100%, but the Angels can't beat the Bo'Sox in the postseason anyway. Vlad sucks in the postseason and the owners of that organization better be looking for power if they ever want to make it back to the WS.

The scenario I see playing out in the yankees indians series is 5 games. Byrd can't pitch against the yankees to save his life. If it does go 5 games, and Sabathia has to pitch in game 5 with the possibilty of brining Carmona in for relief.. Boston will be in the WS.

Also.. good by Roger.. you should have stayed retired.

The D'backs, Rockies matchup is pretty interesting. You have a good young squad in the D'Backs, against the hottest team in baseball. Both have good arms and decent power. I think it will be an exciting series.

Mister Coaster

Well the Rocks took 2 of 3 from AZ in their last series of the regular season. So that's a plus for them. On the other hand, the one loss that the Rockies have had was at the hands of the D'Backs. Should be a really good series, but I think the Rockies are just too hot to handle.

As for the Angles, Stoneman will make some noise about bringing a power hitter into the lineup. Whatever team they are trying to trade with will ask for the frikkin' moon and the stars to let go of the bat, and Stoneman won't go for it. It happens every off season, and every season right before the trade deadline, and it goes down. Sweeny's name always comes up, but the deal is never sealed.

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