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powerclown · 05-27-2006, 11:56 AM

I never thought I'd see the day that Schumacher would pull a stunt like he did today in Monaco. Unbelievable. He needs to be disqualified for purposely blocking the track during qualifying, as the rules clearly state. How could he possibly think anyone would believe that was an accident??? Has anyone in the entire 55 year history of the Monaco Grand Prix ever gone off like that at Rascasse? It's the slowest corner on the track! I like how Alonso didn't even try to hide his disgust for what Schumacher pulled. Booooooooo Schumacher! I hope Sato gets the Ferrari drive for 2007.

AquaFox · 05-27-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by powerclown

I never thought I'd see the day that Schumacher would pull a stunt like he did today in Monaco. Unbelievable. He needs to be disqualified for purposely blocking the track during qualifying, as the rules clearly state. How could he possibly think anyone would believe that was an accident??? Has anyone in the entire 55 year history of the Monaco Grand Prix ever gone off like that at Rascasse? It's the slowest corner on the track! I like how Alonso didn't even try to hide his disgust for what Schumacher pulled. Booooooooo Schumacher! I hope Sato gets the Ferrari drive for 2007.

hell that rocked! it shows Ferrari and Schmacher still got a bad boy side to them

i havn't seen them take advantage of rules and loopholes in a while

Craven Morehead · 05-27-2006, 02:24 PM

Sent to the back of the pack

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Schumacher sent to the back
Ferrari stripped of pole

Michael Schumacher has been stripped of pole position for tomorrows Monaco Grand Prix, and will start from the back of the grid after the Stewards of the meeting deleted all his times from qualifying following a lengthy consideration of evidence.

Schumacher stopped at the Rascasse corner in the dying seconds of the session, having seemingly locked up and subsequently stalled the engine, bringing out yellow flags which ruined the final laps of Fernando Alonso (Renault), Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren) and Mark Webber (Williams) all of whom looked likely to eclipse the Ferrari driver.

Immediately after the incident it was clear that most observers considered it a deliberate move, and the Stewards immediately launched a detailed enquiry.

Tony Scott-Andrews, the permanent steward, and his two fellow stewards heard evidence from the driver himself as well as Ferrari Technical Director Ross Brawn, Team Manager Stefano Domenicali, and Schumachers Race Engineer Chris Dyer. They also considered video evidence, data supplied to them by Ferrari and the FIA, and the views of Alan Prudom, software analyst for the FIA, and Race Director Charlie Whiting. The deliberations took over eight hours.

The conclusion of the stewards was that Schumacher had “lost time in sector two, arrived at Turn 18 at a speed little, if any, different from his previous fastest lap, and braked with such force that his front wheels locked up, requiring the driver to regain control of the car.”

The statement when on to add: \"The driver ultimately did so without hitting the barrier on the outside of Turn 18. The engine of the car subsequently stalled, with the result of the car partially blocked the track.\"

\"Having compared all relevant data, the stewards can find no justifiable reason for the driver to have braked with such undue, excessive and unusual pressure at this part of the circuit, and are therefore left with no alternatives but to conclude that the driver deliberately stopped his car on the circuit in the last few minutes of qualifying, at a time at which he had thus far set the fastest lap time.\"

The stewards have penalised Michael Schumacher under Article 112 of the Sporting regulations, which they explained “allows the stewards to delete any number of a driver\'s qualifying times for a driving infringement, which decision is not susceptible to appeal.\"

The decision means that Mark Webber will now start on the front row, alongside new pole position man Fernando Alonso, with the two Mclarens of Kimi Raikkonen and Juan Pablo Montoya lining up on row two. Rubens Barrichello, in the Honda, and Jarno Trulli’s Toyota now start on row three, and David Coulthard in the Red Bull will start alongside Nico Rosberg in the second Williams on the fourth row.

The final two top ten positions will be occupied by Giancarlo Fisichella, who has also been stripped of his three best times, and the second Toyota of Ralf Schumacher.

This article was written on Saturday, May 27, 21:07

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powerclown · 05-27-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaFox

hell that rocked! it shows Ferrari and Schmacher still got a bad boy side to them

i havn't seen them take advantage of rules and loopholes in a while

Spoken like a diehard tifosi!
Send him to the back, AT LEAST...
Anthony Davidson said on TV that he definitely did it on purpose. Said if you really crash at that corner, you hit the wall.

So Blatant!!

AquaFox · 05-27-2006, 02:42 PM

i have yet to see the video of this, since it's controled by CBS this week, i dont think they aired anything on speed, and CBS only airs sunday... or atleast to my knowing...

did you see it yet or are you just going on what he said?

powerclown · 05-27-2006, 02:43 PM

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"Having compared all relevant data, the stewards can find no justifiable reason for the driver to have braked with such undue, excessive and unusual pressure at this part of the circuit, and are therefore left with no alternatives but to conclude that the driver deliberately stopped his car on the circuit in the last few minutes of qualifying, at a time at which he had thus far set the fastest lap time.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. The crazy thing is, Schumacher probably would have still been on the first row. I would never have expected it from 7x WC Schumacher. Shameful to Ferrari, shameful to his reputation, shameful to F1.

Thanks for the report, Craven.

powerclown · 05-27-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaFox

i have yet to see the video of this, since it's controled by CBS this week, i dont think they aired anything on speed, and CBS only airs sunday... or atleast to my knowing...

did you see it yet or are you just going on what he said?

I saw it live.

Have a look:
Schumacher In Car Shot
Schumacher Overhead Shot

cyrnel · 05-27-2006, 04:12 PM

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Have a look:

I didn't think he'd be up for such nonsense this late in his career. Memories of Mansell or Prost. Either he hit oil, spazzed, or did it on purpose. Sure looks like the stewards are right. Too bad. I'm a fan. I always enjoyed watching him nail that course, especially in the rain.

AquaFox · 05-27-2006, 07:11 PM

i just watched the replay of it on TV plus those videos.. you gotta admit ferrari isn't on top of the game anymore and losing one of the most powerful reigns in sports gotta be tough, soo it for sure could be done intentionally, but it might not have been... it's is just as likely that he goofed up, hell it happens all the time.. he goofs up once and a while, remember monaco two years ago when he wrecked? he did lock his wheels up an at the angle he was going into that turn, i don't think he could have made it, atleast he keep it from the wall...

superiorrain · 05-28-2006, 01:05 PM

Who cares, lets put behind us. Because it turned out to be an awesome race. especially with Michaels amazing 5th place. Overall, I'm glad he started at the back made for some interesting racing especially with the front end staying pretty much the same all throughout.

AquaFox · 05-28-2006, 02:29 PM

darn cable box fudged up my recording, i got two hours of a message dialog box recorded

the race did sound pretty cool, i allways loved watching monaco

powerclown · 05-28-2006, 06:01 PM

I never much cared for Schumacher, having watched him race since his first drive in the Jordan at Spa. Mika Hakkinen had more charisma than Schumacher, and that's saying a lot. He's one of those ultra-successful sporting figures that commands respect, but never admiration. He's the Barry Bonds of F1. What he did this weekend at Monaco further solidifies my opinion of him as a ruthless, graceless, dirty driver. It's what has drove him to such a ridiculous amount of championships and why he's still racing at age 37. I have a lot of respect for how Alonso handled this nonsense, and then eventually winning the race.

madp · 06-05-2006, 12:36 PM

Wow. ..I didn't know this thread existed!

I've got my tickets for the Canadian GP later this month, but I need to brush up on my French to work on the local hotties! Anyone on this thread from Montreal?

bobby · 06-05-2006, 03:49 PM

NOT THAT THIS HAS MUCH TO DO WITH ANYTHING....BUT

HERE IS ralph's WIFE BEFORE ralph..(nsfw)

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105284

xoxoxoo

powerclown · 06-05-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by madp

Wow. ..I didn't know this thread existed!

I've got my tickets for the Canadian GP later this month, but I need to brush up on my French to work on the local hotties! Anyone on this thread from Montreal?

Not from Montreal, but have been to the Canadian GP multiple times. Where are you sitting? Female eye candy galore downtown...hope you have a strong heart.

Montreal is an awesome city with a million things to do. They have a modern subway system as well, that can take you right to the racetrack from the downtown area. Nothing beats the sights and sounds of F1 in person. Almost nothing...

madp · 06-06-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by powerclown

Not from Montreal, but have been to the Canadian GP multiple times. Where are you sitting? Female eye candy galore downtown...hope you have a strong heart.

Montreal is an awesome city with a million things to do. They have a modern subway system as well, that can take you right to the racetrack from the downtown area. Nothing beats the sights and sounds of F1 in person. Almost nothing...

I don't know exactly where the seats are, but I have been invited to be part of a group that goes every year, and the seats are supposed to be in the best viewing area (Champion's Corner, perhaps? I don't know for sure). Some members of the party live in Montreal, so I'm sure I'll be well taken care of! Do I need to brush up on my French to get lucky?

powerclown · 06-06-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by madp

I don't know exactly where the seats are, but I have been invited to be part of a group that goes every year, and the seats are supposed to be in the best viewing area (Champion's Corner, perhaps? I don't know for sure). Some members of the party live in Montreal, so I'm sure I'll be well taken care of! Do I need to brush up on my French to get lucky?

While the francophone population outnumbers the anglophone population about 4:1, Montreal is officially bilingual. Most - if not all - public establishments downtown (and nearby surrounding environs) speak both english and french. It probably wouldn't hurt to speak a bit of French with the ladies, but a charming bastard is a charming bastard in any language, no?

Good luck and have fun. Don't forget earplugs, and check the weather for rain...umbrellas come in handy!

madp · 06-06-2006, 05:44 PM

Thx. . . .maybe I'll pretend that I speak Portuguese, and thus we must communicate with our "broken" English.

powerclown · 06-07-2006, 09:13 AM

Sounds like a plan...a few adult beverages to bridge the language barrier, and you are IN. "Oooooh, I jeeest looove your sexxeee ahc-cent, madp!"

***
Back on track:

Williams-Lexus?

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Sources are indicating that the much-vaunted deal for Williams to run with Toyota power from 2007 on is now reality.

A report on ‘Autosport.com’ confirms what the paddock has believed for so long, and ventures that the deal is for two years, with an option to continue.

It is known that negotiations have been ongoing for some time now, and understood that the final agreement was made on the weekend of the Monaco Grand Prix.

Williams’ lengthy deliberation on whether to swap from Cosworth to Toyota has most likely been decided on the basis that at manufacturer supported engine programme is the way ahead, although team sources did express their satisfaction with the ‘private’ V8 so far this season.

"Cosworth's performance on the budget they have is remarkable," remarked a source close to Williams.

Frank Williams explained earlier in the season his criteria for an engine supply in 2007:

"The engine choice is both technical and commercial. Who has got the best chance of winning, versus what else comes with the engine?"

It is not yet confirmed whether to engine will be badged a ‘Toyota’ or, as strong rumours have it, the marques luxury ‘Lexus’ brand.

Williams’s decision almost certainly means the Midland team, currently using the Japanese power plant, will need to source a new engine supply for 2007.

An official announcement is expected around the time of the Candian Grand Prix.

This is pretty exciting. Williams have been running very well this year on garden-variety Cosworth engines...Toyota works engines could put them back on top. Time for a world champion to be back driving again for Williams F1.

Craven Morehead · 06-27-2006, 10:15 AM

USGP on Sunday. If you've ever considered going, do it this year. Two reasons why:
1. Michelin gave away two sets of tickets to each ticketholder that renewed at least two tickets. This year is a buyers market. Tickets galore, maybe at less than track price.
2. This may very well be the last year at Indy. Last year of the contract and Bernie's not sounding too optimistic about returning. Although I suspect its a negotiating ploy.

Really, if you've ever wanted to see the F1 circus, this weekend presents your best chance ever. And camping's cheap at the Coke lot, just a short walk away.

If you have questions, post them here or pm me.

Craven Morehead · 07-02-2006, 06:27 PM

Two of the hottest days of my life. But I enjoyed it just the same. The big cluster fuck at the beginning happened right in front of me. Did I mention that it was hot?

bobby · 07-03-2006, 06:28 AM

wow....wish I could have gone...the big wreck was to bad,1/3 of field out at first corner....glad Shuey won,hope he can do it some more(?) to make it interesting!!..xoxoxoo

powerclown · 07-03-2006, 02:18 PM

Good that you had a "real" race to watch this year. Michelin "de-tuned" their tires to ensure what happened last year didn't reoccur. Feel sorry for Raikkonen...out on the the first lap. Not the greatest race to watch on TV, wish I was there instead. Did you get to walk out onto the track?

Craven Morehead · 07-03-2006, 06:00 PM

^ No, I'm not sure you can get on the track. Was there Sat. as well. Been to every USGP at IMS. I really wish it were moved back to Sept. Better weather, the heat was brutal. I'm old.

This was the last race under the current contract at Indy. I'd hate to see it leave since I'm only 2+ hours away. But the track does suck. The 'Mickey Mouse' turns before the track re-enters the oval are ridiculous. They add nothing to the track, needs to be redesigned for better racing.

BTW - stood at pit out at the beginning of qualifications - about 15-20 feet from the cars as the blast out of the speed restricted portion of the pits. Damn! Ear protection is a must. Even with that, the sound is amazing, although not quite as loud as it was with the V-10s.

powerclown · 07-03-2006, 09:17 PM

I hear you about the hot weather. I've been to the Canadian GP (held this time of year) and its been in the mid 80s every time. I think it rained for about 15 minutes one year which was a relief. The track surface reflects the sun and of course the cars put out tons of heat. Something tells me the "bowl" enclosure shape of Indy would hold the heat in even more. Hey, you only live once though.

F1 is one of the greatest sporting events in the world to see live. Watching on TV doesn't even come close, eh?

Cool that you got to watch so close to the cars. I've stood in front of the garages before watching the mechanics work on the cars, and it's loud enough when they rev them while they're motionless on blocks. I can't imagine standing that close to a car racing by without ear protection.

AquaFox · 08-01-2006, 06:36 PM

anyone watch the german grand prix? it was nice to see a mclaren towards the top again with the ferraris... and poor redbull!

bobby · 08-01-2006, 07:59 PM

Shuey and the red cars are making it interesting...thought the frog cars were going to run away with the season,but now we have a real fight....hope it gets tighter and tighter as the season wears on...off to eastern europe now and a no pass track....watch qualifing and the pit work !!! xoxoxoo

powerclown · 08-02-2006, 10:33 PM

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the frog cars

LOL

As much as I dislike Shuey, he really is having a phenomenal 2nd half of the season. 3 in a row, 5 overall for the year, and in the hunt for title #8 is more than I ever expected him capable of at this point in his career. Determination - thy name is Michael Schumacher.

Craven Morehead · 08-03-2006, 07:57 PM

Former Toyota driver Christiano daMatta was severely injured today at Road America at Elkhart Lake, WI. Champ Car was holding a two day test session there and a CdM hit a deer going into turn 6. He was airlifted to a trauma center and had surgery for a subdural hematoma. He is being observed in ICU.

Here's a video of him in 2002 during the then CART race at RA. Ironically it shows him climbing the hill to T6. Its heavily wooded, I assume the deer entered the track on the outside of T6. Its a slow corner, but the hit may have occured before the corner itself, even before the bridge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9VJqJqi7K8

Updates will be provided here as they become available.

C'mon Shorty, win this one!

laconic1 · 08-04-2006, 07:29 AM

I was just reading about daMatta, goodness what are the odds of that happening!? At the local short track there are always rabbits running around the infield and some of us joke about if we'll ever see a rabbit getting runover, but a deer? Hopefully daMatta will pull through.

Craven Morehead · 08-06-2006, 09:47 AM

Congrats to Button! One hell of a race. Flood all the tracks for the rest of the season. This one rocked.

powerclown · 08-06-2006, 10:28 PM

Great win for Button...fun race to watch, I agree. Happy to see de la Rosa up there too. I can't believe that Liuzzi slowed down *that* much for Raikkonen to drive right over his car like that...the McLaren's tire looked like it almost hit Liuzzi in the head. Raikkonen's fault. Wet races are great.

healer · 08-07-2006, 07:06 AM

The safety car was the great equalizer once again. If that accident hadn't happened, I doubt the race would've been anywhere near as exciting as it ended up being.

Schumi really should've come in to change onto slicks when he had the chance though.

Hindsight = 20/20.

silent_jay · 08-07-2006, 09:24 AM

Looks like Jacques left BMW-Sauber, hope he finds himself another ride, the man has too much talent not to be behind the wheel of an F1 car, or maybe even the R8 at Lemans

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Jacques Villeneuve, who was absent from Sunday's Hungarian Formula 1 GP, has quit the BMW Sauber race team.

He was replaced in Hungary by Robert Kubica and it's highly probable that his decision will end his GP career after 163 races and 11 wins.

A media statement from Villeneuve, 35, said: "Last week the team informed us of its decision to review its options for 2007, including assessing Robert Kubica in a race environment at Hungary, without offering any assurance about my race seat beyond Hungary.

'The team and I agreed to part ways with immediate effect' - Villeneuve
.

"This is really disappointing as I was looking forward to working with BMW on longer terms - going into next season and capitalising on our common experiences.

"I will now have more time to concentrate on future projects."

Villeneuve crashed heavily during the German GP at Hockenheim on August 5. The team said last week that he had told them he had a headache and could not race in Hungary.

Reuters commented that few in F1, a sport awash with rumour and speculation, believed Villeneuve really was unwell and suspected that he would not be seen in a GP car again.

The Canadian has not won a race since his championship season with Williams and his last podium finish was third with BAR, a team he joined from the outset in 1999, at Hockenheim in 2001.

cyrnel · 08-07-2006, 10:40 AM

Someone mentioned JV signed with a NASCAR team. Can anyone confirm?

I can't decide if that's fascinating or sad. I mean, giving an F1 seat to an American makes some sense to draw Americans into F1. But is putting a Canadian with big family Euro racing history into NASCAR going to draw anyone to NASCAR? I can only picture a small, loyal Villeneuve fanbase paying attention.

silent_jay · 08-07-2006, 02:42 PM

All I can find is this article. It says Tag may be heading to NASCAR as well. I'm very saddened by this news, in my opinion it is a waste of talent as both JV and Tag are great drivers.

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Villeneuve off to NASCAR
Jacques Villeneuve, Canadian GP 2006© The Cahier Archive

Jacques Villeneuve could be heading for NASCAR next year, according to a report in the Journal de Montreal newspaper. The story suggested that Villeneuve has already signed a pre-contract with a NASCAR team conditional on him finding an F1 drive. He would spend one season racing in the Busch Series and then move into the Nextel Cup in 2008. The existence of a deal has been denied by Villeneuve but it is clear that there is contact with NASCAR teams. There is very little chance of Villeneuve returning to F1 again.

French Canadian driver Alex Tagliani is also reported to be heading for NASCAR in 2007.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17279.html

I highly doubt it will draw a lot of people to NASCAR, most that I know are disappointed that JV decided to take that route, I would have rather seen him in the American Lemans Series or something along those lines, hopefully he decides to do the 24 Hours of Lemans.

I totally agree crynel, it will just be a small but loyal JV fanbase that follows his progress. I won't be watching the races but I reckon I'll read his results, just to see how he is doing.

powerclown · 08-07-2006, 03:18 PM

I think its pretty cool to see roadcourse guys heading to nascar. Better to see them racing somewhere, than not racing at all. I would be much more willing to watch a nascar race with JV, Montoya, Tagliani and any of the top roadracers.

Same thing happened when Nigel Mansell was one of the very first F1 guys to race in IndyCars. People when nuts when Mansell won the championship in his first year. Imagine the chaos in the nascar stands if JV started winning races on a regular basis!!

Show em who the real racers are.

AquaFox · 08-07-2006, 05:43 PM

WOW that was an intense race, i didn't think micheal could get it, he was moving up, then BAM!!!! alonso gone! wow just when you think ferrari got it... the friggin breaks!!

Craven Morehead · 08-07-2006, 07:09 PM

Don't have the link but the JV to NASCAR story was denied.

JV's too old to completely change his style to compete in NASCAR. Would take a couple of years to get acclimated and accepted. What JPM, it won't be pretty. Restrictor races and F1 are worlds apart. JPM has to learn how to pace himself and not strike everytime he sees an opening. He's ran ovals in CART and the Indy 500 but that's more in his element since it was open wheel. It won't be easy. And it has nothing to do with talent.

bobby · 09-30-2006, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby

I ,for one,am pumped about the comming season.....Ferrari will have to work hard,but I see them as the dark horse that will emerge at the end of the season ahead of the rest.....Shuey is the best,smartest driver around and will make the most of that!....

............let's keep in touch over the comming months! love ya all, bobby xoxoxoo

.China......what a race,the wet really separates the good from the best...ferrari did a job on the frogs.......now the race is on....!!!!

xoxoxoo

05-27-2006, 02:42 PM	#85 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	i have yet to see the video of this, since it's controled by CBS this week, i dont think they aired anything on speed, and CBS only airs sunday... or atleast to my knowing... did you see it yet or are you just going on what he said? __________________ ...AquaFox...

05-27-2006, 07:11 PM	#89 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	i just watched the replay of it on TV plus those videos.. you gotta admit ferrari isn't on top of the game anymore and losing one of the most powerful reigns in sports gotta be tough, soo it for sure could be done intentionally, but it might not have been... it's is just as likely that he goofed up, hell it happens all the time.. he goofs up once and a while, remember monaco two years ago when he wrecked? he did lock his wheels up an at the angle he was going into that turn, i don't think he could have made it, atleast he keep it from the wall... __________________ ...AquaFox... Last edited by AquaFox; 05-27-2006 at 07:19 PM..

05-28-2006, 01:05 PM	#90 (permalink)
superiorrain Psycho Location: London	Who cares, lets put behind us. Because it turned out to be an awesome race. especially with Michaels amazing 5th place. Overall, I'm glad he started at the back made for some interesting racing especially with the front end staying pretty much the same all throughout. __________________ "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." - Arthur C. Clarke

05-28-2006, 02:29 PM	#91 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	darn cable box fudged up my recording, i got two hours of a message dialog box recorded the race did sound pretty cool, i allways loved watching monaco __________________ ...AquaFox...

06-05-2006, 12:36 PM	#93 (permalink)
madp Insane Location: New Orleans/Chicago	Wow. ..I didn't know this thread existed! I've got my tickets for the Canadian GP later this month, but I need to brush up on my French to work on the local hotties! Anyone on this thread from Montreal? __________________ why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

05-27-2006, 11:56 AM	#81 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	I never thought I'd see the day that Schumacher would pull a stunt like he did today in Monaco. Unbelievable. He needs to be disqualified for purposely blocking the track during qualifying, as the rules clearly state. How could he possibly think anyone would believe that was an accident??? Has anyone in the entire 55 year history of the Monaco Grand Prix ever gone off like that at Rascasse? It's the slowest corner on the track! I like how Alonso didn't even try to hide his disgust for what Schumacher pulled. Booooooooo Schumacher! I hope Sato gets the Ferrari drive for 2007.

05-28-2006, 06:01 PM	#92 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	I never much cared for Schumacher, having watched him race since his first drive in the Jordan at Spa. Mika Hakkinen had more charisma than Schumacher, and that's saying a lot. He's one of those ultra-successful sporting figures that commands respect, but never admiration. He's the Barry Bonds of F1. What he did this weekend at Monaco further solidifies my opinion of him as a ruthless, graceless, dirty driver. It's what has drove him to such a ridiculous amount of championships and why he's still racing at age 37. I have a lot of respect for how Alonso handled this nonsense, and then eventually winning the race.

06-05-2006, 03:49 PM	#94 (permalink)
bobby Super Moderator Location: 18,000+ posts on TFP #1,2,3,4 and 5,but I'm not counting!	NOT THAT THIS HAS MUCH TO DO WITH ANYTHING....BUT HERE IS ralph's WIFE BEFORE ralph..(nsfw) http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105284 xoxoxoo __________________ "Life goes on,within you,and...with out you !" xoxoxoo

06-06-2006, 05:44 PM	#98 (permalink)
madp Insane Location: New Orleans/Chicago	Thx. . . .maybe I'll pretend that I speak Portuguese, and thus we must communicate with our "broken" English. __________________ why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

06-27-2006, 10:15 AM	#100 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	USGP on Sunday. If you've ever considered going, do it this year. Two reasons why: 1. Michelin gave away two sets of tickets to each ticketholder that renewed at least two tickets. This year is a buyers market. Tickets galore, maybe at less than track price. 2. This may very well be the last year at Indy. Last year of the contract and Bernie's not sounding too optimistic about returning. Although I suspect its a negotiating ploy. Really, if you've ever wanted to see the F1 circus, this weekend presents your best chance ever. And camping's cheap at the Coke lot, just a short walk away. If you have questions, post them here or pm me.

07-02-2006, 06:27 PM	#101 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	Two of the hottest days of my life. But I enjoyed it just the same. The big cluster fuck at the beginning happened right in front of me. Did I mention that it was hot?

07-03-2006, 06:28 AM	#102 (permalink)
bobby Super Moderator Location: 18,000+ posts on TFP #1,2,3,4 and 5,but I'm not counting!	wow....wish I could have gone...the big wreck was to bad,1/3 of field out at first corner....glad Shuey won,hope he can do it some more(?) to make it interesting!!..xoxoxoo __________________ "Life goes on,within you,and...with out you !" xoxoxoo

07-03-2006, 02:18 PM	#103 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	Good that you had a "real" race to watch this year. Michelin "de-tuned" their tires to ensure what happened last year didn't reoccur. Feel sorry for Raikkonen...out on the the first lap. Not the greatest race to watch on TV, wish I was there instead. Did you get to walk out onto the track?

07-03-2006, 06:00 PM	#104 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	^ No, I'm not sure you can get on the track. Was there Sat. as well. Been to every USGP at IMS. I really wish it were moved back to Sept. Better weather, the heat was brutal. I'm old. This was the last race under the current contract at Indy. I'd hate to see it leave since I'm only 2+ hours away. But the track does suck. The 'Mickey Mouse' turns before the track re-enters the oval are ridiculous. They add nothing to the track, needs to be redesigned for better racing. BTW - stood at pit out at the beginning of qualifications - about 15-20 feet from the cars as the blast out of the speed restricted portion of the pits. Damn! Ear protection is a must. Even with that, the sound is amazing, although not quite as loud as it was with the V-10s.

07-03-2006, 09:17 PM	#105 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	I hear you about the hot weather. I've been to the Canadian GP (held this time of year) and its been in the mid 80s every time. I think it rained for about 15 minutes one year which was a relief. The track surface reflects the sun and of course the cars put out tons of heat. Something tells me the "bowl" enclosure shape of Indy would hold the heat in even more. Hey, you only live once though. F1 is one of the greatest sporting events in the world to see live. Watching on TV doesn't even come close, eh? Cool that you got to watch so close to the cars. I've stood in front of the garages before watching the mechanics work on the cars, and it's loud enough when they rev them while they're motionless on blocks. I can't imagine standing that close to a car racing by without ear protection.

08-01-2006, 06:36 PM	#106 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	anyone watch the german grand prix? it was nice to see a mclaren towards the top again with the ferraris... and poor redbull! __________________ ...AquaFox...

08-01-2006, 07:59 PM	#107 (permalink)
bobby Super Moderator Location: 18,000+ posts on TFP #1,2,3,4 and 5,but I'm not counting!	Shuey and the red cars are making it interesting...thought the frog cars were going to run away with the season,but now we have a real fight....hope it gets tighter and tighter as the season wears on...off to eastern europe now and a no pass track....watch qualifing and the pit work !!! xoxoxoo __________________ "Life goes on,within you,and...with out you !" xoxoxoo

08-03-2006, 07:57 PM	#109 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	Former Toyota driver Christiano daMatta was severely injured today at Road America at Elkhart Lake, WI. Champ Car was holding a two day test session there and a CdM hit a deer going into turn 6. He was airlifted to a trauma center and had surgery for a subdural hematoma. He is being observed in ICU. Here's a video of him in 2002 during the then CART race at RA. Ironically it shows him climbing the hill to T6. Its heavily wooded, I assume the deer entered the track on the outside of T6. Its a slow corner, but the hit may have occured before the corner itself, even before the bridge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9VJqJqi7K8 Updates will be provided here as they become available. C'mon Shorty, win this one!

08-04-2006, 07:29 AM	#110 (permalink)
laconic1 Junkie	I was just reading about daMatta, goodness what are the odds of that happening!? At the local short track there are always rabbits running around the infield and some of us joke about if we'll ever see a rabbit getting runover, but a deer? Hopefully daMatta will pull through.

08-06-2006, 09:47 AM	#111 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	Congrats to Button! One hell of a race. Flood all the tracks for the rest of the season. This one rocked.

08-06-2006, 10:28 PM	#112 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	Great win for Button...fun race to watch, I agree. Happy to see de la Rosa up there too. I can't believe that Liuzzi slowed down that much for Raikkonen to drive right over his car like that...the McLaren's tire looked like it almost hit Liuzzi in the head. Raikkonen's fault. Wet races are great.

08-07-2006, 10:40 AM	#115 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Someone mentioned JV signed with a NASCAR team. Can anyone confirm? I can't decide if that's fascinating or sad. I mean, giving an F1 seat to an American makes some sense to draw Americans into F1. But is putting a Canadian with big family Euro racing history into NASCAR going to draw anyone to NASCAR? I can only picture a small, loyal Villeneuve fanbase paying attention. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

08-07-2006, 03:18 PM	#117 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	I think its pretty cool to see roadcourse guys heading to nascar. Better to see them racing somewhere, than not racing at all. I would be much more willing to watch a nascar race with JV, Montoya, Tagliani and any of the top roadracers. Same thing happened when Nigel Mansell was one of the very first F1 guys to race in IndyCars. People when nuts when Mansell won the championship in his first year. Imagine the chaos in the nascar stands if JV started winning races on a regular basis!! Show em who the real racers are.

08-07-2006, 05:43 PM	#118 (permalink)
AquaFox WaterDog	WOW that was an intense race, i didn't think micheal could get it, he was moving up, then BAM!!!! alonso gone! wow just when you think ferrari got it... the friggin breaks!! __________________ ...AquaFox...

08-07-2006, 07:09 PM	#119 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	Don't have the link but the JV to NASCAR story was denied. JV's too old to completely change his style to compete in NASCAR. Would take a couple of years to get acclimated and accepted. What JPM, it won't be pretty. Restrictor races and F1 are worlds apart. JPM has to learn how to pace himself and not strike everytime he sees an opening. He's ran ovals in CART and the Indy 500 but that's more in his element since it was open wheel. It won't be easy. And it has nothing to do with talent.