CoachAlan

I know this is supposedly unusual for a guy, but I'm really in to smart women. I would take a woman like Tina Fey over Jessica Simpson any day. In fact, I think Tina Fey is the most attractive woman on television. (For those who don't know, Tina Fey is the head writer on Saturday Night Live, hosts Weekend Update, and is witty as hell.)

I would like to meet a brilliant woman, but surprisingly enough, they don't seem to hang out at the local pub. I know there are plenty of smart women on the TFP, so I'm curious where you hang out. Guys, where have you met smart women? Do I need to start going to Starbucks, should I hang out at Barnes & Noble, or what?

By the way, I'm 30, so I'm not sure hanging out at the Student Union building at UNLV is going to work for me.

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Impetuous1

I would say try the library, foreign flicks, museums, bookstores, look in your local newspaper for happenings such as public forums where politics, religion and other issues are being discussed. But most importantly, look somewhere that you like going. At least that way, you'll have something to talk about and an interest that you share.

CoachAlan

These are some good ideas. I actually went to meetup.com and joined a few discussion groups. One wound up not having any available women in it, but the second seems promising. Unfortunately Vegas is woefully short on museums, except for a few art museums on the Strip. I will pick up the local Alt newspaper and check out the discussion groups it lists. Good thinking! Keep 'em coming.

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ngdawg

Seems to me a lot of fake smarties hang out at Barnes and Noble, ie; they think they're intelligent, but are just smartly dressed.
Wanting to be around intelligent women is great, but think what you have to offer, what your interests are and go from there. Volunteerism, maybe? The suggestion about checking out forum schedules is a good one(or,classes and seminars-there's plenty of those offered for a couple of weekends, etc.). But don't go just to see what kind of females are there. Expand your interests into thought-provoking arenas and take it from there.

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CoachAlan

Indeed, the two discussion groups I joined are on topics which I find wholly fascinating; and I'm even still going to attend the one that was a feminine dead end. That's also the reason I won't be looking for a mate in an art museum: it just doesn't interest me.

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snowy

Try volunteering, like ng said. Lots of intelligent, professional, single women volunteer in their spare time. It seems to me like the best way to meet these kinds of women in Vegas, particularly. You might try volunteering at a local school or two; Clark County is the fastest growing school district in the country and a place where a lot of young teachers look to get started.

Good luck.

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Stiltzkin

Is it weird that I'm 20, and I think *exactly* the same way? Tina Fey is amazing, and so is Rachael Harris ... and Patricia Heaton >.>

Carno

What's a smart woman?

Ahahahahaha.... just kidding

I don't know dude. You can't identify how smart a woman is by what she looks like or where she's at, you just gotta meet em to really find out. You can find smart people anywhere. So yeah, I really have no idea. I do think that it's funny how people wonder what a "smart" person does with their time. I actually think it's kinda ridiculous. It's not like smart people are a species you can study and understand or something. I know smart people who do the same dumb things the rest of us do.

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Poppinjay

ngdawg and onesnowyowl are right on with the suggestion to volunteer.

Volunteer at a KNPR fundraiser. Having worked in public radio since I was 19, I can say there are always smart and personable women who volunteer at fundraisers.

Volunteer at the shelter where you took the kitty.

As far as the student union at UNLV, I met my wife in a college library, we were both 30.

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fatmanforprez

The only time I have ever succeeded in intentionally hunting down an intelligent woman involved a college campus so your screwed though the methodology may help you. It was simple I determined I needed new friends and so I found the angsty and vice loving group that hang around outside the library (my choice of groups was due to my realization that when I had encountered them as individuals, they were intelligent and quirky AKA perfect, even though a whole not my kind of people) I just sat my ass down one morning and put myself in conversation, something which is incredibly against my norm. I made like 4 friends and half a dozen enemies in the group, but one of the friends was the smartest person I have ever met. Who I learned later was into me (I wasn't into her, shes a great friend that I will try to keep for life but I was unable to come to grips with some of her faults). Moral of the story is be intelligent and put yourself in the middle of the most intelligent group you can find, if you pass their test (I didn't pass the half a dozens tests, mostly cause my chess game didn't match my mouth, I was half a dozen years without a partner so I was to say the least rusty) your more golden then Baal himself. Now I understand that it is finding the smart group that is hard for you, but I had it the other way around, so think out of the box, invite yourself to a group that does not fit you at all cause a group is defined by a minority of its member usually.

Daoust

Try trivia night at the bars...

Find out where your local Oprahs Book Club meets

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Of course, all the suggestions given in this thread are jokes, because as we all know, intelligent women do not exist.

(Daoust waits for the hammer to fall)

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Charlatan

The most intelligent woman I've ever met, I met at University.

I ended up marrying her.

Even smart women have their stupid moments.

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Guinevere

I like to hang out around smart men

CoachAlan

Good suggestions. I especially like the idea of volunteering at the local public radio station, since I listen to that station a lot and don't bother to donate.

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Jinn

Find the sober girls at bars. They're either obnoxious when they're drunk, extremely kind (for ushering their drunk friends around) or too smart to drink.

And an amen to Charlatan.

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la petite moi

I must add that Jessica Simpson, although portrayed as stupid, is quite the business woman herself. She has her own product line, sells her show by acting stupid (yes, it's an act), and has in turn, made millions.

I am a smart woman. Frankly, I don't go out. I stay home, go to school, go to work, and that's it. But maybe that's just because I'm engaged. :shrug:

Carno

How do you know it's an act? And what does that have to do with this thread?

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la petite moi

She's admitted to it being an act- it makes for good TV. Also, it has to do with the first statement he makes, about Tina Fey being the smart one and Jessica Simpson being the pretty (but stupid) one. It was just something I wanted to point out.

Anyway, /jack

Charlatan

But of course she would "admit" to it being an act... who wants to be known as "stupid".

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khalid.w.a

Hi all. I'm from the UK and I'm a full time student. I work part time on the doors, as what's commonly known as a "bouncer". I'm in the same position as some of you...

Being a student and running my own part time business, I would say I've got half a brain! When I work on the doors I seem to attract the wrong type of girls. The job I do has a steriotypical image (big, thuggish looking, hard and dumb!) that many people just automatically tag onto you, hence its very hard to meet a "smart woman". I go week by week seeing the same silly little girls on the dancefloor and its beginning to bug me. I even work student nights...and there is no hope there (I think its because I prefer slightly older women who tend not to drink pints, smoke and go with anyone!).

Many people often question me about being a steward as I'm not big (weight wise), I have a nice smile rather than a thuggish look and I speak properly!

I don't want to change my job as I love the adrenaline kicks and the hours fit in well with my timetable. I checked out online dating (as I knew a few students who have met people online), but most of the profiles are made up by the dating company!

Help!

raeanna74

The most intelligent women that I've met have been those involved with local colleges, libraries, schools, etc. Most are volunteering to help with book sales and in other charitable organizations. Don't just volunteer without finding out something about the are you are helping with. Volunteer for the special olympics in your area, do a run for charity, work with the DNR, volunteering to help rescue animals or plant new forests. You'll be surprised how many bright women are out there. Otherwise, just go to the library and do a lot of reading. Worst case you'll learn something, best case you'll meet a single cutie and hit it off.

OR - Go to the local college and take a summer course in a subject you enjoy. You'll learn something, get to know a few new people, broaden your horizens and just might get luck and meet a nice girl.

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la petite moi

Ugh, you can never win with people.

Seaver

Petite Moi... it doesn't take "intelligence" to make money when you're popular. With the millions she makes with her music career, one can EASILY afford the best publicists/agents. Those agents are the smart ones, they tell her what to do.

A retarded monkey can look intelligent when they listen to their agents. It takes a farse-intellectual to not listen and THEN they look like an idiot (Sean Penn).

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Back to the intention of the thread....

Dont underestimate going to local bars. My last 3 girlfriends I've met in bars, 2 were attending Med School, and my current one is a Financial Lawyer for Dell.

You just have to go to the nice bars, get drunk at the cheap ones so you can go the rest of the night on one expensive drink.

Toaster126

If you like smart women, have smart friends. Smart people often hang out with smart people. Friends are a really good resource for finding people you might like, and you already have two things in common then - you are both smart and you both know the person you share in common. It gives you something to talk about and make a connection with.

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passthru

I think there's a lot of good advice and many good ideas in this thread. It's definately true that people of similar intelligence tend to be friends. Just pick an interest of yours that you'd like to expand upon and go to an event relating to that interest. Meet somebody. If you don't want to be more than friends, that's fine, because you should meet other people by hangning around that person.

little_tippler

I think I'm intelligent (unmodest of me I guess but...) and I have not got a clue where smart women hang out. I don't hang out much because my spare time is limited. Most of it I spend in my home, doing things I enjoy, like reading, doing stuff on my computer, painting and drawing, watching TV, cooking good food, listening to music and playing with my cats, or with friends. In my spare time I like to go for walks on the beach or in a garden, to a nice coffee/tea house, I like to go to art shows and theatre, musicals and concerts, and visit friends in their homes or out somewhere (coffee place, restaurant, movie, exhibition, etc. etc.). I also like to go to the movies. I don't go to bookstores to hangout, I just buy books there! But someone said about the sober girl in bars, that would be a good choice because I am often that person, and also through friends I think is a good idea too. Apart from that, I think certain hobbies or groups you could join can lead you to meet smart women. Art classes, book clubs, music groups...there's plenty.

I thought I'd add, that sometimes through observation you can spot these women anywhere. I don't mean to stereotype, but look at it like this:

The intelligent women will be the ones who don't "go with the crowd". For example, I like to take my time choosing or doing things. I will often be alone calmly going about my business. I will take as long as I need to get something right for me. If there is a crowd, I will be the person walking a little faster and efficiently managing my way out of a crowd and placing myself apart from them. I won't be the person almost falling into the train line to see if the train is coming, I will be the person standing back behind others waiting patiently - I hate to have others standing behind me breathing down my neck. I will smile to myself in public because I have my own little world and don't care about what others think. I am not always talking, I often will be the person in a group listening attentively and when answering I will choose my words carefully. This may seem a strange way to say it but I think intelligent women are more pondered and calm. I guess this may come off as arrogant but that's how I feel about it. I hope I don't sound nuts and some other girls can identify with this! lol

Good luck in your search!

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maleficent

I'm not all that intelligent - but intelligence doesn't seem to necessarily be what you want - it's more the vapid ditz type that you don't want... Vapid ditz's and non vapids can congregate int he same places... you can tell pretty easily which is which...

Women are everywhere... I'd suggest getting out and volunteering as a way to get out and do some good somewhere - and a result of that is to meet some interesting people... Same for taking classes in something that interests yoou ... do it because it interests you.. .not because you want to meet a woman (though I'd probably stay away from an intro to auto shop class because the vapid ditz is taking it to meet men and it's quite a scene when she breaks a nail

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khalid.w.a

Smart, sexy.

All guys want a lady on the outside and a whore in the bedroom.

abaya

Another vote here for volunteering. If I was single and not in school, I'd most definitely be volunteering in my spare time. And smart chicks dig guys who volunteer, too... as long as you aren't doing it JUST to meet women (they'll see through you). Unfortunately, I never saw many guys volunteering when I did it in college. Too bad for them!

But you really don't have to get all idealistic to find smart women. One of my best friends is an MD/PhD at Harvard Med School and a guy asked her out at a bar in Boston. Yes, a bar. And they've been together ever since.

You don't have to hang out at the Student Union Building, but if you take some night classes at a community college, the crowd there tends to be older and more mature. I'd recommend doing that just to pick up some new skillz.. ceramics, history refresher, etc, and maybe meet a smart woman along the way.

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maleficent

When I lived in NYC - there used to be a ton of guys that volunteered with the Big Brothers program... (I did big sisters but it was a combined program) While the real deal is to be a pal to a kid in need- BB/BS used to have regular mixers for the Bigs (and the littles too) where we could meet each other and share horror stories and funny stories - I am sooo not a mixer type of person but these events were fun.. and i met a lot of really good people.. .(and BB/BS does a background check on you -- so you know you're meeting fairly decent people )

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Tachion

The smart women hang out in all those luxury homes along the water front.

Ever thought of becoming a pool boy?

la petite moi

Haha, Desperate Housewives style.

CoachAlan

I think this is the gist of most of the advice I've been seeing. I have picked up a copy of CityLife, which is our local alt newspaper, and I'm going to be going to a few of the social events it lists.

Little_tippler, if you're single, I'm moving to Lisboa, wherever that is! You have pretty much hit the nail on the head, and I definitely identify with the type of woman you describe (which is, of course, you). Thank you for clarifying my mental picture, and for giving me something more tangible to look for when I'm at the cliche places like the local pub.

Halx, you're definitely right. Unfortunately I'm not seeing too many "Las Vegas" in the location slot. The next best thing is to ask women like little_tippler how to meet a woman of her ilk.

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at the local Mensa club chapter meeting

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Impetuous1

little_tippler I completely relate to you since that is exactly how I am. You're right though in that sometimes people think of me as arrogant because I don't always want to mix with the crowd and would rather spend my time doing something more thought provoking. As far as additional recommendations, I think taking a class or volunteering in a subject which you are interested in is a great idea. I think when you're at a place in your life where you are happy that you then attract more happiness.

dlish

ive only ever met a handful of 'smart' women..but then again ove only met a handful of 'smart' men.

it all depends on what 'smart' means to you. for some its being dressed in a business suit and glasses...for others its entertaining a convesation..for others its being street smart, for someone else it may be academically smart... so really what you need to do is find someone that'd be right for you...so find them wherever your interests lie. dont go to places where u arent really into, cos u'll stand out like dogs balls, and even if you dont, you'll get caught out as a fake anyways.

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