Where do smart women like to hang out
 

I know this is supposedly unusual for a guy, but I'm really in to smart women. I would take a woman like Tina Fey over Jessica Simpson any day. In fact, I think Tina Fey is the most attractive woman on television. (For those who don't know, Tina Fey is the head writer on Saturday Night Live, hosts Weekend Update, and is witty as hell.)

I would like to meet a brilliant woman, but surprisingly enough, they don't seem to hang out at the local pub. I know there are plenty of smart women on the TFP, so I'm curious where you hang out. Guys, where have you met smart women? Do I need to start going to Starbucks, should I hang out at Barnes & Noble, or what?

By the way, I'm 30, so I'm not sure hanging out at the Student Union building at UNLV is going to work for me.

I would say try the library, foreign flicks, museums, bookstores, look in your local newspaper for happenings such as public forums where politics, religion and other issues are being discussed. But most importantly, look somewhere that you like going. At least that way, you'll have something to talk about and an interest that you share.

These are some good ideas. I actually went to meetup.com and joined a few discussion groups. One wound up not having any available women in it, but the second seems promising. Unfortunately Vegas is woefully short on museums, except for a few art museums on the Strip. I will pick up the local Alt newspaper and check out the discussion groups it lists. Good thinking! Keep 'em coming.

Seems to me a lot of fake smarties hang out at Barnes and Noble, ie; they think they're intelligent, but are just smartly dressed. :lol:
Wanting to be around intelligent women is great, but think what you have to offer, what your interests are and go from there. Volunteerism, maybe? The suggestion about checking out forum schedules is a good one(or,classes and seminars-there's plenty of those offered for a couple of weekends, etc.). But don't go just to see what kind of females are there. Expand your interests into thought-provoking arenas and take it from there.

Indeed, the two discussion groups I joined are on topics which I find wholly fascinating; and I'm even still going to attend the one that was a feminine dead end. That's also the reason I won't be looking for a mate in an art museum: it just doesn't interest me.

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Try volunteering, like ng said. Lots of intelligent, professional, single women volunteer in their spare time. It seems to me like the best way to meet these kinds of women in Vegas, particularly. You might try volunteering at a local school or two; Clark County is the fastest growing school district in the country and a place where a lot of young teachers look to get started.

Good luck.

Is it weird that I'm 20, and I think *exactly* the same way? Tina Fey is amazing, and so is Rachael Harris ... and Patricia Heaton >.>

What's a smart woman?

Ahahahahaha.... just kidding :p

I don't know dude. You can't identify how smart a woman is by what she looks like or where she's at, you just gotta meet em to really find out. You can find smart people anywhere. So yeah, I really have no idea. I do think that it's funny how people wonder what a "smart" person does with their time. I actually think it's kinda ridiculous. It's not like smart people are a species you can study and understand or something. I know smart people who do the same dumb things the rest of us do.

ngdawg and onesnowyowl are right on with the suggestion to volunteer.

Volunteer at a KNPR fundraiser. Having worked in public radio since I was 19, I can say there are always smart and personable women who volunteer at fundraisers.

Volunteer at the shelter where you took the kitty.

As far as the student union at UNLV, I met my wife in a college library, we were both 30.

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The only time I have ever succeeded in intentionally hunting down an intelligent woman involved a college campus so your screwed though the methodology may help you. It was simple I determined I needed new friends and so I found the angsty and vice loving group that hang around outside the library (my choice of groups was due to my realization that when I had encountered them as individuals, they were intelligent and quirky AKA perfect, even though a whole not my kind of people) I just sat my ass down one morning and put myself in conversation, something which is incredibly against my norm. I made like 4 friends and half a dozen enemies in the group, but one of the friends was the smartest person I have ever met. Who I learned later was into me (I wasn't into her, shes a great friend that I will try to keep for life but I was unable to come to grips with some of her faults). Moral of the story is be intelligent and put yourself in the middle of the most intelligent group you can find, if you pass their test (I didn't pass the half a dozens tests, mostly cause my chess game didn't match my mouth, I was half a dozen years without a partner so I was to say the least rusty) your more golden then Baal himself. Now I understand that it is finding the smart group that is hard for you, but I had it the other way around, so think out of the box, invite yourself to a group that does not fit you at all cause a group is defined by a minority of its member usually.

Try trivia night at the bars...

Find out where your local Oprahs Book Club meets

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Of course, all the suggestions given in this thread are jokes, because as we all know, intelligent women do not exist.

(Daoust waits for the hammer to fall)

The most intelligent woman I've ever met, I met at University.

I ended up marrying her.

Even smart women have their stupid moments.

I like to hang out around smart men

Good suggestions. I especially like the idea of volunteering at the local public radio station, since I listen to that station a lot and don't bother to donate.

Find the sober girls at bars. They're either obnoxious when they're drunk, extremely kind (for ushering their drunk friends around) or too smart to drink.

And an amen to Charlatan.

I must add that Jessica Simpson, although portrayed as stupid, is quite the business woman herself. She has her own product line, sells her show by acting stupid (yes, it's an act), and has in turn, made millions.

I am a smart woman. Frankly, I don't go out. I stay home, go to school, go to work, and that's it. But maybe that's just because I'm engaged. :shrug:

How do you know it's an act? And what does that have to do with this thread?

She's admitted to it being an act- it makes for good TV. Also, it has to do with the first statement he makes, about Tina Fey being the smart one and Jessica Simpson being the pretty (but stupid) one. It was just something I wanted to point out.

Anyway, /jack

But of course she would "admit" to it being an act... who wants to be known as "stupid".

Hi all. I'm from the UK and I'm a full time student. I work part time on the doors, as what's commonly known as a "bouncer". I'm in the same position as some of you...

Being a student and running my own part time business, I would say I've got half a brain! When I work on the doors I seem to attract the wrong type of girls. The job I do has a steriotypical image (big, thuggish looking, hard and dumb!) that many people just automatically tag onto you, hence its very hard to meet a "smart woman". I go week by week seeing the same silly little girls on the dancefloor and its beginning to bug me. I even work student nights...and there is no hope there (I think its because I prefer slightly older women who tend not to drink pints, smoke and go with anyone!).

Many people often question me about being a steward as I'm not big (weight wise), I have a nice smile rather than a thuggish look and I speak properly!

I don't want to change my job as I love the adrenaline kicks and the hours fit in well with my timetable. I checked out online dating (as I knew a few students who have met people online), but most of the profiles are made up by the dating company!

Help!

The most intelligent women that I've met have been those involved with local colleges, libraries, schools, etc. Most are volunteering to help with book sales and in other charitable organizations. Don't just volunteer without finding out something about the are you are helping with. Volunteer for the special olympics in your area, do a run for charity, work with the DNR, volunteering to help rescue animals or plant new forests. You'll be surprised how many bright women are out there. Otherwise, just go to the library and do a lot of reading. Worst case you'll learn something, best case you'll meet a single cutie and hit it off.

OR - Go to the local college and take a summer course in a subject you enjoy. You'll learn something, get to know a few new people, broaden your horizens and just might get luck and meet a nice girl.

Ugh, you can never win with people. :rolleyes:

Petite Moi... it doesn't take "intelligence" to make money when you're popular. With the millions she makes with her music career, one can EASILY afford the best publicists/agents. Those agents are the smart ones, they tell her what to do.

A retarded monkey can look intelligent when they listen to their agents. It takes a farse-intellectual to not listen and THEN they look like an idiot (Sean Penn).

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Back to the intention of the thread....

Dont underestimate going to local bars. My last 3 girlfriends I've met in bars, 2 were attending Med School, and my current one is a Financial Lawyer for Dell.

You just have to go to the nice bars, get drunk at the cheap ones so you can go the rest of the night on one expensive drink.

If you like smart women, have smart friends. Smart people often hang out with smart people. Friends are a really good resource for finding people you might like, and you already have two things in common then - you are both smart and you both know the person you share in common. It gives you something to talk about and make a connection with.

I think there's a lot of good advice and many good ideas in this thread. It's definately true that people of similar intelligence tend to be friends. Just pick an interest of yours that you'd like to expand upon and go to an event relating to that interest. Meet somebody. If you don't want to be more than friends, that's fine, because you should meet other people by hangning around that person.

I think I'm intelligent (unmodest of me I guess but...) and I have not got a clue where smart women hang out. I don't hang out much because my spare time is limited. Most of it I spend in my home, doing things I enjoy, like reading, doing stuff on my computer, painting and drawing, watching TV, cooking good food, listening to music and playing with my cats, or with friends. In my spare time I like to go for walks on the beach or in a garden, to a nice coffee/tea house, I like to go to art shows and theatre, musicals and concerts, and visit friends in their homes or out somewhere (coffee place, restaurant, movie, exhibition, etc. etc.). I also like to go to the movies. I don't go to bookstores to hangout, I just buy books there! But someone said about the sober girl in bars, that would be a good choice because I am often that person, and also through friends I think is a good idea too. Apart from that, I think certain hobbies or groups you could join can lead you to meet smart women. Art classes, book clubs, music groups...there's plenty.

I thought I'd add, that sometimes through observation you can spot these women anywhere. I don't mean to stereotype, but look at it like this:

The intelligent women will be the ones who don't "go with the crowd". For example, I like to take my time choosing or doing things. I will often be alone calmly going about my business. I will take as long as I need to get something right for me. If there is a crowd, I will be the person walking a little faster and efficiently managing my way out of a crowd and placing myself apart from them. I won't be the person almost falling into the train line to see if the train is coming, I will be the person standing back behind others waiting patiently - I hate to have others standing behind me breathing down my neck. I will smile to myself in public because I have my own little world and don't care about what others think. I am not always talking, I often will be the person in a group listening attentively and when answering I will choose my words carefully. This may seem a strange way to say it but I think intelligent women are more pondered and calm. I guess this may come off as arrogant but that's how I feel about it. I hope I don't sound nuts and some other girls can identify with this! lol

Good luck in your search!

I'm not all that intelligent - but intelligence doesn't seem to necessarily be what you want - it's more the vapid ditz type that you don't want... Vapid ditz's and non vapids can congregate int he same places... you can tell pretty easily which is which...

Women are everywhere... I'd suggest getting out and volunteering as a way to get out and do some good somewhere - and a result of that is to meet some interesting people... Same for taking classes in something that interests yoou ... do it because it interests you.. .not because you want to meet a woman (though I'd probably stay away from an intro to auto shop class because the vapid ditz is taking it to meet men and it's quite a scene when she breaks a nail :D

smart or dorky?

Smart, sexy.

All guys want a lady on the outside and a whore in the bedroom.

Another vote here for volunteering. If I was single and not in school, I'd most definitely be volunteering in my spare time. And smart chicks dig guys who volunteer, too... as long as you aren't doing it JUST to meet women (they'll see through you). :lol: Unfortunately, I never saw many guys volunteering when I did it in college. Too bad for them!

But you really don't have to get all idealistic to find smart women. One of my best friends is an MD/PhD at Harvard Med School and a guy asked her out at a bar in Boston. Yes, a bar. And they've been together ever since.

You don't have to hang out at the Student Union Building, but if you take some night classes at a community college, the crowd there tends to be older and more mature. I'd recommend doing that just to pick up some new skillz.. ceramics, history refresher, etc, and maybe meet a smart woman along the way. :D

When I lived in NYC - there used to be a ton of guys that volunteered with the Big Brothers program... (I did big sisters but it was a combined program) While the real deal is to be a pal to a kid in need- BB/BS used to have regular mixers for the Bigs (and the littles too) where we could meet each other and share horror stories and funny stories - I am sooo not a mixer type of person but these events were fun.. and i met a lot of really good people.. .(and BB/BS does a background check on you -- so you know you're meeting fairly decent people )

...at the TFP.

The smart women hang out in all those luxury homes along the water front.

Ever thought of becoming a pool boy?

;)

Haha, Desperate Housewives style.

I think this is the gist of most of the advice I've been seeing. I have picked up a copy of CityLife, which is our local alt newspaper, and I'm going to be going to a few of the social events it lists.

Little_tippler, if you're single, I'm moving to Lisboa, wherever that is! You have pretty much hit the nail on the head, and I definitely identify with the type of woman you describe (which is, of course, you). Thank you for clarifying my mental picture, and for giving me something more tangible to look for when I'm at the cliche places like the local pub.

Halx, you're definitely right. Unfortunately I'm not seeing too many "Las Vegas" in the location slot. The next best thing is to ask women like little_tippler how to meet a woman of her ilk.

at the local Mensa club chapter meeting

little_tippler I completely relate to you since that is exactly how I am. You're right though in that sometimes people think of me as arrogant because I don't always want to mix with the crowd and would rather spend my time doing something more thought provoking. As far as additional recommendations, I think taking a class or volunteering in a subject which you are interested in is a great idea. I think when you're at a place in your life where you are happy that you then attract more happiness.

ive only ever met a handful of 'smart' women..but then again ove only met a handful of 'smart' men.

it all depends on what 'smart' means to you. for some its being dressed in a business suit and glasses...for others its entertaining a convesation..for others its being street smart, for someone else it may be academically smart... so really what you need to do is find someone that'd be right for you...so find them wherever your interests lie. dont go to places where u arent really into, cos u'll stand out like dogs balls, and even if you dont, you'll get caught out as a fake anyways.

be true to ureself

OMG, you just described ME! I avoid crowds, too, even when I'm driving.

CoachAlan, there's lots of good ideas here. Also keep in mind what Impetuous1 said: "I think when you're at a place in your life where you are happy that you then attract more happiness." When you feel good about yourself, you will attract more good in life, people, and good in general. It's that whole you-get-back-what-you-give-out thing; it's really true.

Incidentally, I'm going for a Jeopardy tryout/screen test today, and I'm pretty excited about it. This will be the second time I've tried out. I came pretty close last time, but wound up missing two too many questions on the written test. I feel much more prepared this time, but we'll see. Now that I think about it, this tryout will probably be a pretty solid place to meet smart women. Wish me luck in both endeavors!

Alas, I am a failure.

Of the 60 people in my tryout, only 8 passed the test and moved on to the screen test. I was not one of them. I was, however, one of two people to win a Jeopardy DVD, so I guess that's something.

Where do smart women hang out?

Here, at my house. ;)

• comic book shops
• upscale universities
• trendy clubs near said upscale universities
• drag clubs
• used book shops
• specialty organic produce markets
• my living room

Gilda

Book clubs. Very few men join them but women who like to read are there by the dozens. I've found a few book clubs through Meetup.com and through some local non-chain bookstores. And don't worry; most of them don't bother with the romance novels. They're more interested in the best-sellers on the Fiction lists.

Be sure to read the assigned book all the way through. If you can offer one or two bits of insight regarding a character or a plot line, you will be identified as a "thinking man" and can find one or two women to join you for more discussion after the book club meeting ends.

I've met a number of interesting women this way and it's so much easier when the odds are in your favor. Quite often you will be the only man in a group of a dozen women. The only way you can screw up is by not reading the book.

That is a money suggestion. The only question is whether it's worth it to read fiction (I almost exclusively read non-fiction) to meet smart women... Yeah, it proabably is. Thanks for the advice.

It's been my experience that smart women like to hang out at the same places everyone else does. This may not be universally true.

Soho syndrom anyone? we see tons of those in NYC in lower east side, they're annoying...but fun to watch nonetheless.

classes are always good, especially dance classes. "smart" women seem like to learn to do things the right way, and have more fun doing it proper. people who don't go and just wing it (not just dancing, any hobby) are generally more interested in just doing the activity and less in learning about how to do it. salsa dancing's a great way to meet women, the "smart" ones will go alone if they have to- if their friends don't want to go they'll go by themselves because they're independent, and if they want to learn they'll go by themselves if they have to and not care what anybody thinks- they operate on their own perrogrative apart from the crowd as indicated by the responses in this thread. to enroll in a class you have to have 2 things: the want to learn, and the ability to follow through on it regardless of stigma of going alone, two traits "smart" women i've noticed have.

also, those with "smart" jobs in places like the tech industry, accounting offices, law and mortgage firms, seem to like to either relax at home (nothing you can do) or cut loose (dance) or grab a drink in their spare time rather than try and find more (volunteer) work. so you can actually find smart women in bars- just make sure they're the type of bar a person would want to stop by for a drink after work or something. a nice jazz bar in the middle of several high tech offices would probably be a good choice to hang out at for example.

Hey, I just went out with a gal who's got her masters. And of all places, I met her while I was working at the mall.

Now there's a strong correlation with intelligence, and humor. Most professional comedians did well in school. So I'll fire a few jokes at the gals to test them.

Now here's what I recomend. Yes, go to Starbucks and Barnes & Noble, and chat up the staff. These type of businesses have a tendancy to employ students, as well as a lot of other social gatherings near colleges.

If your looking for someone closer to your age (late twenties), fine an area with a lot of office buildings, and take your lunch breaks out there. On the 11-o'clock news, a dating expert recommended talking to people as they're waiting to be seated. If your hitting it off, join them, or get their number and leave. If things aren't going well at that restaurant, then move on to the next one.

And a lot of people have recommended to me to take a dance class to meet single women.

I'm 22 and I'm in the same boat as you guys are

but one question after all this discussion still sits in my mind....what type of smart woman are you looking for? There are so many diversities out there that you may need to narrow your search...I do recommend taking a class at the local university. It should be something you're interested in and something that is offered either late at night or on a weekend, because the age of woman you're looking for probably already has a career and is either brushing up on new skills or just taking something for kicks. This will also pose a perfect entrance for you to volunteer, as college's have great volunteer opportunities.
You see, I am 25 and just getting back into school after marriage, 2 kids and a divorce, so most women who attend these later classes are "world smart", and usually VERY dedicated to their education.
By the way...do you have a degree....a graduate degree? This might be the time to go to grad school!
PS, there are also a TON of HOT young grad students and fresh instructors...

by the way....where do you go to find smart men....and not the self-centered, "I'm smarter than you are" type?

On TFP, duh. :p

All of the areas listed I enjoy except I have no time to volunteer with work and I'm not one for dance or drink. I prefer quiet places to be left alone and enjoy the atmosphere. My problem is I'm relatively anti-social, I'd rather be left alone than have a chat with a stranger.

I like the idea of taking a dance class, with subjects like salsa and swing. Even if I don't meet a woman in that class, it's VERY useful to know how to dance, which I don't. I just started a new job, and I'm finally working days. Once I settle in to my schedule, I will definitely start taking classes again.

I was on my way to becoming a teacher, and I had enough credits that the counselor essentially said, "Hey, give us $15 and we'll give you a couple of associates degrees." Which I did. Then I found a job which, of course, paid much better than being a teacher, so I stopped going to school.

Regarding what "type" of smart woman I'd like to meet, I'd say it's one who thinks deeply. Someone who is introspective enough to know why she does the things she does, why she feels the way she feels, and someone who has the ability to express herself to me. There are few things I find more stimulating than deep conversation. I'd like it if she had a passion for learning and experiencing new things, which is why I think taking night classes is such a great idea.

Stripclubs. :D

I'm dead serious.

And the Internet.

And CoachAlan, I read almost exclusively non-fiction too...I'd pass on the book club thing unless you can find one that assigns the kind of books you like to read. The next NPR pledge drive, though...that might be worth a try.

Why only "smart" women?

It's been my experience that a signigficant amount of these smart women you speak of are only that, smart.

No insight. No curiousity of life. No interest in outside experiences. You get the idea.

I'm not saying a "dumb" woman is the answer, but dont just sell yourself short on only smart women. Smart or dumb, it's all relative.

You'll run into them at bars too. Just because they're smart, doesn't mean they don't like to drink and party. Edit: I've gone out clubbing and bar hopping with many med students and of course regular college students. The med students I met at a random bar in the city.

I'm really not sure as to what you mean by smart woman. *refrains to suggest that it's an oxymoron*
No seriously, though, what do you mean? I know there are unintelligent females out there, but I believe most are able to handle a conversation...right? Or maybe I'm just lucky. I think the thing is you have to catch them in a conversation, seious mood, and find a common point of interest.