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Old 07-02-2005, 07:28 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Man, why didn't things like that happen to me when I was 20? Oh thats right... I was too idealistic about relationships, always looking for the right partner and perhaps too insecure to hook up with people whom I regarded as easy. I have grown up a lot since and definitely wish I had done things differently then.

I envy your position really... having animal sex with a hot girl and now she wants to introduce you to another hot friend (supposedly). With any luck, you might even get to sample some 3some after some smokes. Of coz, it might be totally different in your shoes..

Anyway, don't get hung up over Hong Kong attractions of hot chick who bathes you and treats you like a king... your friend will perhaps have to find out the hard way that its a paid service and it doesnt happen in real life. In other words, its the same as the call-in service you get in the US but done chinese style.
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Old 07-02-2005, 10:18 PM   #42 (permalink)
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UPDATE FOR KRAMUS:: the only one still reading this!!!

Well as with this relationship, it always seems to have a plot twist. So last night my parents are gone on a weekend getaway, im chilling at home smoking weed, and guess who calls me. This girl. She wanted to come chill. I didn't expect it or anything--I had mentioned my sky diving idea to her and she was like yeah yeah i want to but it's expensive bla bla bla...so my prior plan wasn't quite happening yet. Can't force it if it's not there. So anyways last night she comes over and we hang out chill smoke talk a lot. Talked a lot about our relationship actually...and she tells me she is fucking the abercrombie poster boy from the gym! Regularly! Supposedly they're , 'in the same place', because they both JUST got out of long term relationships and say they don't want something long term serious...yet I get her naked last night and then she wouldn't have sex because she'd feel guilty..like she was cheating on him. So I was like well you can't do that to me, I'm not going to be your cock in a bottle. Not happening. I've been prepared this whole time to walk my separate way and not talk to you, because yeah it would suck, but whatever we have is so fragile I can't put any kind of investment into it, because it could just poof, and I have to walk away from that.

So what does she tell me then? That I should hang out with her best friend Leah. She's like the minute I saw you I thought you would be good for her before myself...

So I was kind of like..hmm...but that makes me look less to you, because I'm just flip flopping to your friend. But on the other hand, you're going to lose me from your life completely otherwise, because I'm not sticking around. I told her you're lying to yourself if you think you're single but you feel guilty being with other guys. You're already back in a relationship. "well he's going back to college in the fall so then it'll end" -- okay, sure. We'll see.

--On a side rant--, I was annoyed at first that this other guy would get chosen over me. Because I think I'm better. So i asked her why him, and she was basically like a) we just got over long term relationships and b) I can't figure him out. He's mysterious. Not to mention he probably is a little better looking than me. Not by much but in all honesty he could be on an abercrombie poster. So basically this girl likes that complex...he plays subtle games basically, can't talk about anything like we can. So that demystifies me, I'm all figured out. Boring =P To her anyways, some people want that and some don't, I don't, so maybe when I find someone who doesn't want that kind of bullshit, i'll be satisfied. Maybe it'll be her friend, I dunno whatever, but I'll have to go back into thinking of what angles to play and what to say right all the time, and not be myself, because I won't know her.

But according to this girl I'm with her friend is gorgeous, but then she's hyping her up so I don't know. I guess I'll go out with her once and see how things go. Can't hurt.

So random, but whatever, gotta roll with it.

Bro, I hate to be the one to tell you "I told you so" but I gotta go there. That chick ain't worth your time. Fuck her. Literally. And her friend too. If she wants to introduce you to your friend, go for it. Fuck her brains out too. I sure as hell would. If some woman that I'm trying to get with started confiding in me about how she's fucking the "hot" guy at the gym, she's outta there. That alone signifies no respect for you whatsoever. She's not worth your time. No matter how hot she is. She and her friends will be nothing more than fuck buddies. Consider any relationship with them to be as such.

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Old 07-02-2005, 11:24 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Amen Hardknock. I really could've cared less who else she was fucking though, I told her that. I was like yeah whatever you can do what you want with him I could care less, has nothing to do with me. But then she felt guilty so I was like well guess what babe you're in a relationship, you're not 'single' anymore, so we're done. I'm not going to be your friend and watch you get involved with some other guy, I wouldn't be satisfied. So then her solution to still keep me in her life without me cutting her out, and supposedly a notion she had had when she first met me, before i slept with her, was that I would be good for her best friend...who she has hyped up and vice versa already, supposedly...

(For those curious minds, yes, she has alluded to them tag teaming, although she hasn't come out and said it...)

So what do I say to that eh? Fuck off you're a waste of time? It's probably true and I could do it with a good conscience, but why not have fun and meet the chick once? I can never call them back again afterwards if it's one crappy night, and who knows maybe it'll be animal sex time again in the near future. It's summertime man you gotta go with the flow...gotta find out what can happen =)

That's MY thought process for it.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:03 PM   #44 (permalink)
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meet her friend yet?
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Old 07-20-2005, 09:03 AM   #45 (permalink)
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haha, man, nice situation

my thoughts on this (all girls, cover ears/eyes approrpriately).... are tag a few times and run. just coming out of a long term relationship, a few flags hinting to mental instability, a couple of odd tendencies, etc... it seems like she's a semi-cool chick but youd be nothing but a rebound to her in the long term, plus her characteristics dont lend themselves to something productive (to be slightly judgmental). but good luck with her friend, just dont get caught up in something you cant deal with.

PS. there are two girls at my golds gym that are extremely attractive and fun, but are both psychotic -- ie one of them only wears/buys things that are banana yellow, and the other hot pink. when someone messed around with one of them from the gym, and didnt reciprocate unheeded passion, their car ended up with a brick through it. dont be that guy
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Old 07-20-2005, 09:33 AM   #46 (permalink)
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hey.. I've been reading along and enjoy the updates but you won't like this.

You're a nice guy playing dating games out of a book. You're willing to be a second string player and take the booby prize. You can't go out and look for yourself so you take what's available within easy reach. This girl has got you on a string like a yo-yo and if you think the "friend" booby prize is gonna work out, I gotta tell you it's not. You're like a toy that the hot chick doesn't want anymore so she's handing it off to her second string friend to play with then toss.

Get out of the gym and find someone who's not forced to be around you and doesn't have this drama going on. At least you didn't have to watch her go back to her old boyfriend and all of that. No doubt this poster boy isn't having the smoothest ride either. Twisted hot girls are a rollercoaster no matter who they're with.

And what are you looking for with this girl? Get married and have kids? Be devoted for life and get old? You wanted some sex and you got it. Admit that you're playing out of your league with her and find someone new before your summer runs out.

btw - you got played. Guys think they're making a conquest by getting laid without ever seeing it's the girl who's getting the notch on her belt. No doubt she's fucking half the guys who meet her. She's a player. Just like you'd like to be if you were a little more attractive.

Ouch. I'm so mean.
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Old 07-20-2005, 10:24 AM   #47 (permalink)
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It does sound like a roller coaster to me. I am still on the sidelines so to speak, and not playing the games of tag and relationship jumping. Sounds chaotic and a little freaky. I don't know if I'd ever be up to speed in these situations, thats for sure
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:04 AM   #48 (permalink)
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just too add... the date with the friend is to check you out and for entertainment.

Anything you say or do will be relayed back to hot girl. Why do you think she wants to set you up with someone she knows? It's an interview besides being an easy way to let you down. Isn't that sweet.

If you want to take a shot (and kill all future sex) mention that you like the hot girl but she's like a human tissue for guys (along with other nasty "honest" comments). This is bombshell material and could really shake her up, so consider it in advance. I'm only mentioning this because revenge could cross your mind. DON'T do it.

Or you could just NOT talk about the hot girl at all and kill the topic when it comes up, and IT WILL come up several times on the date. Be a total gentleman. If you still want to attempt something with hot girl, don't get sexual or romatic on the friend date and mention how much you care for hot girl and could see a future there. They'll be going over the details before your date is even over and having a great laugh. This is classic highschool bullshit.

tip for you in life - don't make broad generalzations about a race or culture of people (even your own). It's a fasttrack to being narrowminded. Of course the chinese girls treated your friend like a king; that's what he PAID for. duh.

At the end of summer I hope you print out this thread and hand it to the hot girl to read. Seriously.. it might be an eye-opener for her.
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:34 AM   #49 (permalink)
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haha wow guys thanks for the comments.

tiltedbc -- lol you can be as mean as you want to be bro. I'm not one of those people who is opposed to things I don't want to hear, so I'll give you fair crack at this.

What REALLY ended up going down is after I told her I would meet her friend and see what happens--I didn't. I knew that was rotten bullshit to the core, I was just not admitting it openly. I knew it though and never had any intention of meeting her. When I looked at the facts, I saw the same things you guys did, and I don't need that bullshit, so see ya honey.

So this shit all happened a month ago. I still work out at the gym 3-4 times a week and see her there all the time, and at first she would come up and say hi and try to start conversations with me, and eventually I just got so tired of trying to play the "I still want to have a cursory conversation" with you game that I just started giving her one word, you can leave me alone now kind of answers.

Couple loose ends I'd like to tie up. One thing I talked to this chick about when I was stoned one night was the little tiny spandex shorts and sports bra she would wear when she worked out, which left nothing to the imagination. I was like, you must love doing that because every guy in that gym can't stop stealing looks at you. She said no...she never thought of it that way. Her father has told her that she and her sister being born sucked the life out of him and that he has been unhappy all his life because of them. She was an 'ugly duckling' who was teased and made fun of until she was 14 years old and hit high school and suddenly puberty hit and suddenly worked it's magic. So she said her reasons for not thinking about herself like that is because she still feels negative about herself so she doesn't think she has anything worth 'flaunting'. Of course, that is to be taken with a grain of salt, but I think if you met her you'd understand she's a bit crazy, but pretty genuine. So, I don't really think I was a notch in the belt, but if I was, she was just as much one in mine. Keep in mind I've been dumping my personal thoughts on here--to this girl's knowledge I never had anything more than a passing interest in her.

Further more, I'm not a nice guy playing a game out of a book. I have to admit I definitely got way too mushy when I first met this girl, because she was so candid and open about everything, but I never resorted to calling her all the time or text messaging her, or doing anything that would imply that I was her bitch. I hung out with her 4 timesover 2 weeks and had sex with her once, almost twice. That makes me a toy?

And not to be arrogant, but I'm good looking enough for anybody. There's people who are better looking than me, and there always will be--but that's like saying that all the other girls who didn't win a miss america pageant are ugly. Being good looking is only half the battle if your personality sucks. And I'm spontaneous, crazy, and confident, and a little sensitive, which is pretty much everything they want. I'm a realistic person and I know my limits, but that's why I work out 4 times a week and dress well and stayed groomed. It's a package deal. Either you know you're sexy or you don't, and no offense but someone who I've never chilled with on an internet forum doesn't really know that much about me. But that's the nature of this shit so you have to act on what you have available, can't fault you that.

So to FURTHER update you guys on this shit, I had not had an update for a month. Like I said I had not been talking to her much and it was below even the cursory chit chat, I didn't even really feel like speaking to her. And so then I go to the gym yesterday, during a dead time at like 1pm (before i go in for work at 3pm) and I end up seeing her and she comes over and chats with me for like 15 minutes. There was no one else around, it was pretty dead, I don't know why I didn't just cut her off and send her out, but I didn't. Well, okay, I know why I didn't do that. It's because I want to see if *I* can string her along at all. Get her re-interested maybe after not talking to her for a month. So she invited me to go to Brooklyn this weekend, barhopping with her and some of her girlfriends, including the friend she wants me to meet. I'm going to Boston this weekend to party with some of my boys and it's going to be a sick time, so I told HER, if you want, give me a call and we can party in Boston.

Now, just so you know, this is not my only pussy possibility here. I was over at a buddy's house smoking a blunt when some chicks came by, two of whom I knew from high school and hadn't seen in a while. I had seen them earlier in the summer but not recently--but it's not like I haven't seen them since i graduated, know what I mean? We were talking about how crappy hartford CT is for bars and one of them invited me to go out with them to a bar in new haven CT sometime. She gave me her number and her screen name. Girl is cute, not hot, but her personality is fuckin fiery and that definitely makes her sex appeal shoot up. She told me when she and her friends get drunk I better watch out, and I said I wasn't worried about being able to handle them =p

And on top of this, like I said, I'm going to boston this weekend, and I just picked up a gram (10 doses) of MDMA (ecstasy in pure uncut kick ass form) for this weekend. My buddy who I am going up to see is a roommate in my off campus house for next year, he's rich with Iranian oil money from daddy, so we are going to hit up some sick parties and then bring some ladies back for the VIP at his house afterwards.

So really, what happens with this chick is inconsequential. I'm not her toy because I have no problem just walking away from her, and I've never, ever, tried to chase her or act like I wanted to pursue a relationship with her.

Good updates to follow this weekend, if I survive it

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I am not a player in the R. Kelly / P.Diddy sense of the word where I walk into a club iced out with bling bling and can just throw my dick at whoever I feel like. I am a player in this little dating game thing though. If you played too, you would understand the necessity to be able to walk away from a given situation at any time without any hard feelings, knowing that, people are people, and you can't base your outcome with one girl on how your outcome will be with the next one. People are very different and usually weird once you get to know them, so as any guy will tell you, rejection happens (sometimes a lot), but it's all a matter of shaking it off, getting back up, and getting back on the horse and occassionally scoring a win. That's why it's a fun game, after all =) You can't win all the time but when you do it's a treat. The fact that I can go out to party with a carefree, see what happens attitude, knowing it could be anything, and that no matter what it is I'll roll with the circumstances and do what I can...that's what it's about man. That's why I love the weekends...I never know what possibility might present itself.
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