Ustwo

For all of the jokes about women faking orgasms, from the ‘restaurant scene’ to even Sienfeld, and how the men couldn’t tell, I don’t think thats really possible. Every woman who I have given a ‘big O’ to followed a very similar pattern of muscle contraction and pulsation.

So last night, after some activity, something pretty obvious dawned on me. There is NO way a woman could really fake an orgasm that would fool a man unless the man had never made a woman orgasm.

Now is this entirely true? I guess I have to ask the ladies since the men may have been lied to

Do all women, when having one of those mind blowing orgasms, tighten up and then pulsate after?

Can you ‘fake it’ to the point of faking the muscle aspect as well?

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Squishor

I could probably fake a facsimile of the muscle contractions but I wouldn't be able to fake the nipple erection that follows an orgasm in women. As far as I know, this is invariable - correct me if I'm wrong.

ngdawg

I don't know how anyone can fake all that goes on-nipples get erect, muscles contract, skin gets ultra-sensitive, i don't even know what else could be going on..i'm kinda busy at that moment....

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Ustwo

I decided to ask my wife, and her response was the same, there is no way a man could be fooled unless he never gave a woman an orgasm before.

Apparently we have another holywood myth busted.

I wonder if I should call discovery for MythBusters

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greeneyes

Absolutely.

I can fake everything about an orgasm and he is none the wiser.

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tacobaal

the question i have is, why would a woman want to fake an orgasim? i dont get that at all, i mean as a guy if i couldent make you finish just tell me!, it would probably cause more problems for me if you faked it and i knew :S

Ustwo

Now lets dissect this a bit.

Normally the best way I find to give a woman a 'mind blower' type orgasm is oral.

So while you lick, suck, etc the clitoris you have a free hand to finger at the same time.

Now as the woman approaches orgasm, they will start to tense up, you can feel this from the belly to the legs. Then the vagina will contract, and where as I could get 3 fingers in before, one now feels very tight, this can go on for quite a while. As the orgasm approaches the pressure on my finger will get even harder and normally her hips start to buck a bit. There is a sort of general overall relaxation at the moment of orgasm, and normally the woman would push me away and try to avoid contact due to the extreme sensitivity.

Provided I'm inside for it, either with my finger or with my penis, you can feel the involuntary rhythmic contraction. This is very different than a kegel contraction in terms of feeling. Where as a woman will tense up and squeeze for a kegel contraction, there is no tension in the orgasm contraction except in the vagina.

If you can fake all that, I am extremely impressed. I’d also like to get to know you better

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Phant84

count my vote with all the "fake it only for the guys that have never given a woman an O before" replies

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greeneyes

Ok, what I am saying is that I've been having orgasms for years now and I know what it is that my body does and I know how to mimic that quite convincingly.

Sorry boys, but sometimes it just isn't going to happen and I would rather give a performance than disappoint or worse have a guy just keep going and going and going and going...

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SAM821

A woman can fake the vocal sounds, emotions, and even some "feelings" but like some have stated earlier, if you have given a woman an orgasm before, then you should be able to have an idea if something is not right....

the other day I pulled off a quickie, and I asked my girlfriend if she had "one" and she said yes, then I replied, no you didnt... then she quickly admitted that she didnt, but it was still good...

women.... :\

Hardknock

Ustwo and I agree on something for once.

There's no way a man could be fooled once he sees the eyes turning towards the back of the head, twitching, jolts and moans that come from woman during orgasm.

greeneyes

Not true, 'cause I've had orgasms with men and still been able to fool them.

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*Nikki*

I can fake every aspect of it.

I haven't been with a ton of guys, but the ones I did fake it with never and still don't know. It's pretty damn easy.

As far as the muscle contractions go, I got that down pat. I can contract *any* muscle down there, no problem. My nipples get hard the second I take or my shirt and my cheeks become flushed when I am excited. As far as twitching and eye rolling go, thats a piece of cake.

greeneyes

Ha! The numbers are growing. Just when you men think you have us all figured out...

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Ustwo

I'm sorry ladies but as a very experianced man I just can't see it being possible.

There is only one way to be sure, who's ready for some hand on experimentation?

And there are people out there that think science isn't fun!

I should bring up my innie/outie theory one of these days (and I'm not talking about belly buttons).

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tacobaal

now im curious please explain lol i like learning

greeneyes

Oh, and the whole fingering as you go down thing... not all that you think it's cracked up to be.

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Demeter

I don't know how it is for other women, but the orgasms I've faked have been for the pound-away-forever sex. When you know they are just gonna batter you til they think you'll climax. (Even though most women don't orgasm from penetration only).
No, they don't notice, 'cause these are the 'in it for themselves' type.
The faked orgasm completes the act, and I can get my money and go on my way...lol

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Marvelous Marv

I agree that it's pretty easy to tell if you're in an oral or digital situation. I think I could conceivably be fooled in a straight missionary-type situation, though.

This topic reminds me of the deathless phrase in an old National Lampoon essay:

"Is It a Real Orgasm?
The honest female orgasm is three to fifteen rhythmic contractions of the outer third of the vagina at .8-second intervals (the contractions follow the beat of the song "Surfin' USA"). Unless these contractions occur, you can regard her groaning, moaning, clawing, kicking, begging for mercy, and shouting filthy religious epithets as bargain-basement histrionics. "

For the rest of the (extremely funny) essay,

Click here

Ustwo

Yea that link was excellent.

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Ustwo

I'm sure it depends on the women. I've had those that almost require it, and those who are just distracted by it.

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jorgelito

Ah, but it would sure be fun "testing" the theory no?

Hehehee..... me first!

snowy

I'm with *Nikki*...I can fake pretty convincingly. I learned how to after losing my virginity because 1) I was still pretty sore down there and tight, and 2) my partner and I were still figuring out what worked and what didn't...oh and 3) he was too damn insecure to accept the fact that I enjoyed it without an orgasm. I have major control over my vaginal muscles. That is a double-edged sword.

Fortunately, I am now a fountain of orgasms--however, some partners question my orgasm (I tend to have lots of small ones) because it doesn't add up to their expectation of what the female orgasm should be. However, I have assured many of them the small ones I get from sex are far better (and more numerous) than the big singular one I get from masturbation. That usually makes them feel better about the whole thing.

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william

They do it all the time - if they want to.

maleficent

Youdon't think that could be faked?


Even the toe curl can be faked... sometimes it's a lot of work to fake - but it's not hard... in fact it's pretty easy.....

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Ustwo

All of that could be faked, but to fake the contractions would be pretty damn impressive. Klegel contractions wouldn't cut it.

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twinkle

I require it!

Also, occasionally I will have very mild orgasms from vaginal stimulation... not the full on wohoo type but a climax situation just the same.

Sometimes, men just aren't paying enough attention to know the difference.

Charlatan

First off... some guys wouldn't know an orgasm if they tripped over it... so faking it is easy.


As for men who are actually attuned enough to know if a woman has orgasmed or not... they are probably skilled enough that faking isn't even an issue.

Personally I would hope that no woman would be so disrespectful as to fake it for me... I'd rather they said, "Don't worry, I don't think I'm going to get there this time... give your jaw a rest," or "Fuck your jaw aching... get back to work!"

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maleficent

Idon't think it's disrespectful to fake -- sometimes it's ego-preservation on the part of the person who's doing the faking... Until you've ever heard -- "what's the matter with you why can't you orgasm" Faking is just a lot easier.

Sex is not about the destination... it's about the journey-- you reacha certain age and an orgasm is not the be all and end all of the universe. Faking is for the person who doesn't quite see it that way -- for the person who doesnt think it was any good unless there was an orgasm as the payoff...

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*Nikki*

Sometimes faking is just easier then explaining!

Aladdin Sane

My wife doesn't have the pulsing contractions when she cums. Her whole vagina clamps down when she gets close and there it stays 'til the fireworks are over. Don't assume that all women will respond to orgasm the same way. They don't. So much for the theory that some guys are just too experienced to be fooled.

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Hardknock

I think that a lot of women suck at faking it and that an attentive man could spot any attempt. If the guy is just in it for himself and the woman is just trying to get rid of him becasue he's one of the "all night pounders" then yeah, he won't notice. But if a guy is actually paying attention to his woman and is looking for he signals, he can spot a fake.

Charlatan

While I can appreciate that position, I still maintain that in any meaningful relationship I am in I do not want or need the woman to fake... I'd rather I knew it hadn't happened.

To me it's disrespectful because it means you aren't being honest with me.

On the flips side, if I'm not satisfying you and you aren't telling me... then it ceases to be my problem that you aren't getting satisfaction (i.e. if you are faking me out then how am I supposed to know?).

That said, I agree with this:
There have been may times where I have had sex and not had an orgasm... but still enjoyed myself.

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MooseMan3000

I totally agree with all of those points.

Another perspective I would add to women who have faked it and had their partners believe it... are those partners actually any good? Sometimes when my partner has an orgasm, and it's only alright - those are usually quickies on the way to the real thing. When she has the real thing, however, her entire body locks up, she often can't help but scream, and she can barely talk afterwards. I imagine she could fake the "small" orgasms easily. But to fake the real thing is a whole different ballgame, and I don't think it's possible.

I would say that if you can fake and have a guy believe it, not only does he not actually care about your pleasure (so he's not paying too much attention), he's not very good at giving it, either. Get a new boy.

Just my two cents.

snowy

The guy I had to fake for basically made me feel like I was doing something wrong if I wasn't having one because he would pull all this "I must be a horrible lover because I can't make you come" crap. Needless to say I am older now and wiser. This is also a guy who didn't like giving me oral sex...yeah, he was definitely NOT a keeper.

I haven't faked an orgasm in years. Thankfully.

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*Rhapsody*

not if you are informed. an orgasm causes the muscles in your vagina to tense up (like clench or squeeze you) for like anywhere from 10 seconds to 1 minute (or more if she is really lucky) and after that, the muscles not only there but in the entire body become very relaxed, like after you feel when you have had an all over body massage. forget listening to what is coming out of her mouth...pay attention to what her body is doing. it will tell you.

Suave

Couldn't kegels give them the ability to fake it mayhap?

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Jakes

women my be able to fake an orgasm, but men can fake an entire relationship(including the orgasm but not the ropes)

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Redlemon

With Keri as the test subject? I'm totally ready to watch that episode. antpantpant:

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greeneyes

That's totally stolen from Sex and the City.

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