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visotech 04-11-2005 01:03 PM

My girlfriend is a bit overweight...
 
My girlfriend is a bit overweight...The only reason I say that is because she tells me this.

My girlfriend is around 5'6 and 155-160...When we first got togather a year and a half ago she was more like 145 - but at the time she was comming out of a "depressed-like" stage. She attributes some of the wieght gain due to starting to take birth control. Now don't get me wrong, I love her, think shes hot, and have no problem with her reguardless of her size. Every time we go shopping she complains that she can't find anything in her size because all the cute stuff dosen't fit her, then she starts talking about wanting to start jogging and loose a few pounds. Here is where I come in, how do I encourage her? Every month this topic arises again - every month the last whole year, and she says shell make time for it and all, but she ends up flaking on herself...Is it my territory to help her reach her goals, or should I step back and let her handle it? If I am supposed to encourage her, how do I do it without commenting on her weight? In addition to this she has like the worst diet ever, no balanced meals, fast food, and lots of soda. How do I show her my support, and encourage her? :crazy:

Honestly speaking, I love her if she was 100 pounds or even if she was 200 pounds....but I would rather see her at a more healthy weight.

Lebell 04-11-2005 01:08 PM

First, be sure about that very last bit...that you would still love her at 200lbs, because it could happen and if you're gonna bail on her, do it now before you form more emotional attachments.

That being said, you can do/say a couple of things.

Mainly, that if she wants to lose weight, that you support her and will help her AS asked, that you will exercise/walk/whatever with her, but that in the end, your love for her won't change with the addition or subtraction of a few pounds.

visotech 04-11-2005 01:15 PM

I can only provide so much support because we are in a long distance realtionship and see eachother every 3-4weeks. But I plan on being fully committed for when I spend the summer with her - Im willing to exercise with her as well.

liquidlight 04-11-2005 01:16 PM

If it were me, and by that meaning that I need to lose a few pounds myself, I'd take another angle and start to diet/exercise for myself and just happen to invite her along. That way there's less likelyhood that she'd feel inadequate and then you both have more reason to keep with it.

visotech 04-11-2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidlight
If it were me, and by that meaning that I need to lose a few pounds myself, I'd take another angle and start to diet/exercise for myself and just happen to invite her along. That way there's less likelyhood that she'd feel inadequate and then you both have more reason to keep with it.

Pretty much my plan for this summer...I want to get us both to start exercising, and if not both then atleast just me. Ive sat around on my ass for the first 2 years of college now, hopefully I can make up for some of that during the summer. Im 5'8ish, 140-145, I wouldn't mind to start running and loose my mini-gut.

visotech 04-11-2005 01:23 PM

In addition to the initial post....

My gf says shes too busy to exercise or walk, that shes to tired when she gets home. I don't blame her, but her schedual is not going to get any easyer anytime soon, its pretty much on her to do it if she really wants to. Also she has this thing about "running/jogging is bad for you" she says its bad for your knees, so she says she'd rather walk - Ive read that walking = running in terms of calories, is this true?

Ace_O_Spades 04-11-2005 01:36 PM

Losing weight is about calories in/calories out... period.

Walking doesn't equal jogging over equal distances, but if you walk more it will make up for it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

visotech 04-11-2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace_O_Spades
Losing weight is about calories in/calories out... period.

Walking doesn't equal jogging over equal distances, but if you walk more it will make up for it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

I found this link:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=6381

Martel 04-11-2005 01:57 PM

If she doesn't want to run, look into a gym for elliptical machines. If you guys are in school there's probably some you could use for free, otherwise local gyms are always running super promotional cheap stuff.

Mr_Tickles 04-11-2005 02:23 PM

those elliptical machines are a god-send... the difficulty i always found (in being a chubby chappy) was that my knees would start hurting after running for a while. Those elliptical machines are a great non-impact form of excercise.

Now if I could only get back to that gym...

cowgirl02 04-11-2005 02:50 PM

Starting the birth control probably was a big factor in the weight gain i know when i statred birth control i did gain about 10-15 lbs. But as someone else has already said you start exercising and dieting FIRST then ask her if she would like to join you that way she does not think that you are just trying to say "hey you need to be on a diet and you need to exercise" :)

Apache 04-11-2005 05:31 PM

I have to say that this sounds so much like me and my husband. I was 120 pounds when my husband and i met. Loved the way i looked, then the birth control pills happened. I went from a size 6 to a now size 12. I get so down on myself, I hate to see pictures of myself, and im the same way as your girl when it comes to shopping. My husband loves the way i look regardless and he wants me to wear cute clothes (like i used to)instead of just jeans and a t-shirt. BUt when we go into a store it seems that everything cute ends at about size 6/7, then that just upsets me more. I too always get on a kick about losing weight, but can't stay motivated enough to do it.
I think your doing your best. I know that even though I don't feel it and don't understand where he sees it, it always makes me feel better when he tells me how beautiful i am. I think all you can do for her is just be there. Keep telling her you love her no matter what, and maybe you could start working out with her, support her in that way as well. Now that i just had a baby Im finally serious about working out, and it's something we're going to start doing together. I think having someone do it with me rather than setting back telling me how i need to do it will help me to stay comitted this time.

Sage 04-11-2005 08:19 PM

I think your girl has more issues with herself than with her weight-

Has her libido decreased any? Some of her negative self-image can come from the way the hormones fuck with your head.

That said, has she ever taken a health and wellness class? she can exercise all she wants but if her eating habits dont' change she's not going to lose weight. Look for a good getting started with exercising book and perhaps give it to her as a gift of encouragement, telling her that you support her and want to do all you can to help her stick to her committment.

Women are beautiful at any size- it's a shame that more women don't realize this!

SparklingDot 04-11-2005 10:29 PM

Does she have a friend at home that would be willing to walk with her? If you turn exercise into a social activity, it goes by faster and is more enjoyable. Going for an after dinner stoll is great. What if you two took a cooking class when you're together this summer? If you learn to cook / eat well, not only is it valuable couple time, but it is a great skill to have. Or even just buy a cookbook and take turns making dinners. And as far as soda goes, less is more. Why not try turning her on to tea or something without so many empty calories. The more educated she is about what she puts into her body, the better.

I know that weight is a touchy subject, so tell her that you are interested in getting healthy too. Not so much to lose weight, but to have a better quality of life. Its for both of you.

Sweetpea 04-11-2005 10:47 PM

She's either going to lose the extra weight or not . . . that's up to her and it's a personal choice . . . no one can motivate a person to get fit and stay fit except themselves . . .

You can help encourage her by taking walks with her and being more active, that would be a good supportive thing to do.

But honestly, just enjoy her as she is :)

Sweetpea

visotech 04-11-2005 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage
I think your girl has more issues with herself than with her weight-

Has her libido decreased any? Some of her negative self-image can come from the way the hormones fuck with your head.

That said, has she ever taken a health and wellness class? she can exercise all she wants but if her eating habits dont' change she's not going to lose weight. Look for a good getting started with exercising book and perhaps give it to her as a gift of encouragement, telling her that you support her and want to do all you can to help her stick to her committment.

Women are beautiful at any size- it's a shame that more women don't realize this!

Yeah decreased libido - I'd attribute that to bc.

And yes she did take a nutrition class, but I think she was so self concious of her bad diet that for class exercises when you calculate your calories and things, she just made them up instead of using her real statistics.....I was like :confused:

thalakos315 04-12-2005 01:42 AM

if she really wants to lose weight, help her anyway you can.

personally, i'd suggest going to the gym yourself (excercise is never bad regardless of what shape your in) ask her if she wants to get a membership and go with you. if your doing it for you, she'll most likely be more motivated as it would be supportive to you. also, cook for her ;) not only does this earn you points, but it makes it a lot easier to monitor what exactly your putting in your body.

exercise is good for the mind as well as the body. it can keep a person from becoming depressed, and will help ensure self confidence. its one of those things that once you've started, its easy to keep it up.

little_tippler 04-12-2005 07:13 AM

I think your girlfriend is feeling sorry for herself and making excuses. She wants to loose weight, but is talking herself out of it. If she doesn't have the energy, it's probably because she isn't more active. Active people have more energy generally than people who are not. She has to put in the effort...it's not ever going to be a piece of cake. I know, I'm trying to do exercise regularly and sometimes I just want to stay in bed and not go to the gym. But when I do I really feel better about myself. At the end of the day it's up to her...suggest she tries an activity she enjoys, not jogging. If she doesn't like it she'll just give up. Swimming is my choice, great all round exercise and it doesn't cost so much to go to your local pool.

As for you broaching the subject with her...try to bring it up in a camouflaged manner, like when she mentions exercise or food, whatever. Just never be blunt about it. Maybe if you go with her it'll give her the incentive she needs, company is great for distracting you from how self-conscious you might feel to start with.

One more thing...what's with the totally unhealthy diet? I know you want to be nice, but if she only eats junk, refuses to exercise, and then brings up dieting and that she wants to loose weight...uuuh she can't really talk before she's even trying at all. One healthy meal a day to start, come on. How hard can it be? Baby steps. Good luck to you.

StarCrossed 04-12-2005 09:32 AM

Take it slow; start with healthier eating. I'd have to say thats easier than "feeling the burn". Then after that, get into the physical aspects of getting fit. And if you ever bring up the excercising thing to her, and she snaps off, talking about, "why, you think i'm fat"? Tell her it was her idea, and your not the one that cares about that issue.

actinic 04-12-2005 11:50 AM

Since the birth of our son, she's about 30lbs heavier than before she was pregnant. I absolutely still find her damn sexy as ever. She can't get out to the gym or do the typical excersize routine as my work has gotten busy and she's basically at home.

Anyhoo, to the point. After breakfast, lunch and dinner, we go for a 15-30 min walk around the neighborhood. As spring is here, were getting some ideas of for her/our gardening projects. Kinda difficult in your case Vis as you are no close to your beloved. When you do go to see her, go for that walk after a meal or snack. We have found that our energy levels have increased and overall less stressed over our day to day stuff.

Just another idea to add to the others.

visotech 04-12-2005 12:19 PM

Thanks for the advice guys/gals, I think your right, it is a lack of motivation, and It would probably help motivate her if I start doing these things myself and try to bring her into it.

cellophanedeity 04-14-2005 09:44 AM

I'm pretty much the same as your girlfriend in this situation.

We started dating, and then I put on weight. For me it had little to do with birthcontrol, as I've been on it for acne since I was fourteen.

There's a line in a Barenaked Ladies song that goes "She's like a baby, I'm like a cat. When we are happy we both get fat" I've noticed that a lot (not all of course) of the very comfortable people in relationships put on a bit of weight. Not nearly as much as either your ex or I did, but still some.

It's difficult to get motivated. I don't know about your girlfriend, but going to the gym makes me feel even worse about myself, and then I eat more. Walking tends to be my only exercize, and now after a year or so of being overweight, I've decided to do something about it.

It's hard for us. Be patient.

n0b0dy 04-20-2005 10:57 PM

I am in the very same boat with my GF, and she knows i would love her if she did weigh 200 lbs. But what I do is I try and help her decide what to eat, and I ask her alot if she wants to go jogging or swimming. Keeping active and eating right is key. Plus if you both do it you will be spending more time together and starting a common intrest.

Plus this also means she builds up a bit more stamina in bed =]

Cimarron29414 04-21-2005 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by visotech
Thanks for the advice guys/gals, I think your right, it is a lack of motivation, and It would probably help motivate her if I start doing these things myself and try to bring her into it.

Three words: Swing Dance Lessons

alec 04-21-2005 09:16 AM

I think someone said 'Women are beautiful at every size'. But unfortunately, women are not healthy at every size. A 15 pound fluctuation over a year isn't bad though, but there are two main reasons this could be occuring.

1) Diet
2) Lack of exercise

Regarding the first, do you go grocery shopping with her? Do you eat healthy as well? What kind of foods does she typically consume? Does she typically eat out? It only takes a couple of questions and realizations to figure out what could be sufficating her diet and causing her to gain weight.

On the second, it is understandable that people may not have time during the week. But there are always little things. Like walking up stairs instead of taking elevators, if you're in a city, walking places instead of driving. On the weekends, finding somewhere nice to jog or walk for an hour instead of watching TV.

I had a similar situation to yours where my girlfriend was not very healthy. She was typically southern and loved fried food and disliked exercising. It's just a matter of being there and putting the right ideas into a positive light.

alec 04-21-2005 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by little_tippler
I think your girlfriend is feeling sorry for herself and making excuses. She wants to loose weight, but is talking herself out of it. If she doesn't have the energy, it's probably because she isn't more active.

I completely agree. People much rather eat their excuses than swallow the facts about how they came to be a certain way.

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Originally Posted by little_tippler
As for you broaching the subject with her...try to bring it up in a camouflaged manner, like when she mentions exercise or food, whatever. Just never be blunt about it. Maybe if you go with her it'll give her the incentive she needs, company is great for distracting you from how self-conscious you might feel to start with.

I have been with a few girls who constantly complain about their weight and size, but this person doesn't seem to be one. But if does get to that point, you really don't have a choice. One of my rather more honest ex's said to me 'if I ever start to add weight, just tell me. I may get angry at you for a while, but in the end I'll appreciate it and I'll look better.' So that's pretty much my philosophy, but that may not work with everyone.

irseg 04-21-2005 09:34 AM

You should do things like riding bikes or taking long walks. Basically things that are reasonably fun, involve spending time together, and will get her some exercise too.

And next time she brings up how she's overweight, you should mention her diet and help her change that. Look at healthy eating forums online with her, go grocery shopping together and help her pick out healthy foods that are easy to make, and so on. Personally I used to live off fast food and TV dinners. I of course realized that they weren't the healthiest things to eat, but when I noticed I was starting to get kind of hefty I began comparing their nutrition info with that of healthier foods. That was a hell of an eye-opener! I lost about 15 pounds when I cut that crap out of my diet.

visotech 04-21-2005 03:17 PM

As an update, we talked about it a few weeks ago, and she said "when i get settled into this quarter i will start walking everyday"....Its the end of the fourth week of this quarter, no progress. If I bring it up she is going to complain about how busy she is at work - but when she gets home shes not on work time...bah. Its hard for me to even encourage her and say "hey lets go take a walk" because im 400 miles away.

Disk_Pusher 04-27-2005 01:16 PM

If it's a long distance relationship, that can be difficult. I know when I was around 170 I whinned to a friend, and they asked me to join the beginner lacrosse team. Lost about 20 pounds just getting in good enough shape to run the field.

Working out, imho, sucks. It's borring and long. Doing an activity really helped, because it wasn't work, it was play. That and I found myself thinking more about the game and less about how hot, sweaty, and miserable I was.

My other sugestion would be power yoga. When I moved back to California, I couldn't find many people in my area (Victorville) to play with. Ok, couldn't find any. :-P I started doing power yoga and an hour and a half of that when you wake up or when you come home from work is simply divine. Combined with some basic stuff (pushups, squats, calf raises) it worked some minor miracles. Still, nothing beats running.

Siege 04-27-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by visotech
As an update, we talked about it a few weeks ago, and she said "when i get settled into this quarter i will start walking everyday"....Its the end of the fourth week of this quarter, no progress. If I bring it up she is going to complain about how busy she is at work - but when she gets home shes not on work time...bah. Its hard for me to even encourage her and say "hey lets go take a walk" because im 400 miles away.

if you know any of her friends, you can encourage them to work out together!

working out is so much better (at least for me) when i'm working out with someone i know because: a) it allows us to alternate sets b) we can talk about random stuff and it helps distract you (only on treadmills! not for weights!) c) they can help push you to go that extra 5 min on the tread or lift that extra rep

jRuntlets 04-27-2005 02:39 PM

I'm 5'9" (was 150), and I found the quickest way to hurt myself from losing in weight was to say I'm going to diet and exersize to lose weight.... NO NO NO! Instead of doing it that way you (and your g/f) should think of something you really want to do but aren't in shape for... a big rock climb, a big hike... something like that.

Once I thought of the whole activity of losing weight in another light, called getting in shape I felt better. I'm actually only down to 145-148, but guess what? I've dropped some pants sizes and my body LOOKS fantastic! Why did I do it? Because I have a young horse who really has more stamina than I do, so I decided I needed to hit the gym and build up my stamina and strengthen my muscles for those long wild rides. Once it wasn't about the weight it was easy to kick it in high gear, now I can ride my horse longer and better.

Muscle weighs more than fat you know!

I second everyone who has said that you should talk about starting a program for yourself, invite her to join. Look it as an aspect of removing junk food from your diet and adding fruits, veggies and lean meats and then hitting the gym to increase stamina and strength.

The more people tend to fixate on not being fat, the more then tend to get anxious and give up too easily!

phathom 11-29-2005 08:31 PM

ok, first off I would absofuckinglutely love it if my gf was 5'6 and 150-160 pounds, shit my gf is more like 5'9 and closer to 300. SHIT! I would love it if I were in your shoes just physically. If your gf is complaining about that, she has it wrong, there are thousands of girls who would die to be what she is, mine included. Don't get me wrong she has everything else going for her, but that frame is nothing to be ashamed about. Good for her to want change for the better, but for a lot of people that is the better.

Carno 11-29-2005 09:20 PM

Ugh... women and their weight. They love to bitch about it, but not many actually do anything about it. You're probably not going to push someone into losing weight, they have to want to do it for themselves. If your girlfriend continually makes excuses or keeps putting off working out, she's not serious about losing weight. At all. And you're probably not going to be able to motivate her.

If I were you, I'd start working out, and just hope she joins you. But if she's content to eat shit food and be lazy, there is not much you can do.

Craven Morehead 11-29-2005 10:09 PM

^ Its not just women, everyone bitches about their weight but few actually will do the right things to lose it.

She's going to have to want to do this or it will never work. And she doesn't sound like she wants to.

Toaster126 11-30-2005 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
^ Its not just women, everyone bitches about their weight but few actually will do the right things to lose it.

She's going to have to want to do this or it will never work. And she doesn't sound like she wants to.

Quoted for truth.

It's pretty simple. You lose weight by modifying diet and exercise. She doesn't seem willing to do that because it is too much work. Instead, she wants to complain that she isn't happy with her weight. I would expect her to continue to gain weight. The catch-22 of the situation is that as she gets bigger, it will be harder to get back into shape, resulting in even less motivation to drop pounds.

Jinn 11-30-2005 08:14 AM

You mean I can't just wear one of those 'electic belts' that shocks my abs into a six pack in just 30 minutes a day? Sonovabitch..

It's actually amazing how many people don't put together these three thoughts.

I want to lose weight.
To lose weight, I need to eat less and exercise more.
Since I want to lose weight, I will eat less and exercise more.

Ustwo 11-30-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by phathom
ok, first off I would absofuckinglutely love it if my gf was 5'6 and 150-160 pounds, shit my gf is more like 5'9 and closer to 300. SHIT! I would love it if I were in your shoes just physically. If your gf is complaining about that, she has it wrong, there are thousands of girls who would die to be what she is, mine included. Don't get me wrong she has everything else going for her, but that frame is nothing to be ashamed about. Good for her to want change for the better, but for a lot of people that is the better.

I was sad that I had no shoes, and then I met a man who had no feet.

Of course that doesn't make having no shoes any better.

Sho Nuff 11-30-2005 08:48 AM

Tread very carefully. You are more likely to offend her and make her self concious than have any positive motivational effect. Been there.

Redlemon 11-30-2005 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I was sad that I had no shoes, and then I met a man who had no feet.

...and I said "Friend, can I have your shoes?"

/the Foremen

Suave 11-30-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JinnKai
You mean I can't just wear one of those 'electic belts' that shocks my abs into a six pack in just 30 minutes a day? Sonovabitch..

It's actually amazing how many people don't put together these three thoughts.

I want to lose weight.
To lose weight, I need to eat less and exercise more.
Since I want to lose weight, I will eat less and exercise more.

You don't even need the east less. Just exercise more. Eating less can (unless you specifically have an overeating problem) lead to malnutrition. I'd venture to say that most slightly overweight people do not have an eating problem; they have a moving problem.

Willravel 11-30-2005 03:29 PM

Exercise and diet with her, you're inviting her to do something that you both will learn to enjoy.

genuinegirly 11-30-2005 03:30 PM

Horrible eating habits, eh?

In this day and age, people either care about their physical fitness or they don't.
Sounds like she fits into the second category and the only reason she wants to lose weight is because society tells her she should be 115lbs.

If she is truly interested in shedding pounds, eating right is a place to start. Does she know how? Does she know just what is in each soda, each hamburger? When you are with her, rather than eating out, try making her breakfasts, lunches, and/or dinners that are balanced. Offer to go walking/running/jogging/biking with her in the mornings or evenings. Keep an open dialogue about your workout regime and healthy eating habits, then encourage her to develop her own.

Something about that message caught my eye: Once a month every month for the last year. There is a time in my cycle that I just feel bloated and fat. It's like this for a lot of women. She may be complaining about this aspect of womanhood rather than her actual physical fitness.

noodle 11-30-2005 04:23 PM

I agree with what appears to be the general consensus... unless she feels motivated and wants to get healthier, she won't. To address the diet issues, shop together in the fresh food stores, take a cooking class. To make it fun, cook the healthy meals nekkid (or in sexy undergarments/pj's if she's uncomfortable). It eventually leads to wanting to make healthy meals. But don't cook anything that splatters :lol: As for exercise, I heartily agree setting a fun vacation or outing that you're not in shape for now and work towards it while dropping the spare change in a jar. Then you don't get the money before you meet your health goals. Sometimes you just have to do your own thing, though. My ex encouraged me all of the time and only ended up with me feeling miserable and persecuted. It took him dumping my fat behind and me getting angry enough with myself to join a gym and burn off my frustration productively. I've lost 5 sizes and 60 lbs since we broke up the first time. I love watching his jaw drop and we're good friends now. But it was something I had to do for myself, alone. That's just me.

But, no matter how great I feel that I look now, every time my cycle rolls around I feel disgusting and bloated. I switched my b/c to one where I can cycle 4x a year instead of 12x. Which greatly decreased my side effects and those awful times where all I can do is cry and feel self-conscious about everything. Many, many fewer hormonal issues and weight fluctuations.

Sultana 11-30-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cimarron29414
Three words: Swing Dance Lessons

This is the best advice EVAR!

Don't do "boring" exercise, do something active that you both will enjoy!

And yes, she will be tired after work or school because she's not moving. Just Do It Anyway. <--directed at her, not you.

Cimarron, will you go to swing dance classes with me? :icare:

abaya 11-30-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fredweena
I switched my b/c to one where I can cycle 4x a year instead of 12x. Which greatly decreased my side effects and those awful times where all I can do is cry and feel self-conscious about everything.

Gee, I do this once a WEEK. :lol: Sorry to interrupt the thread, but Fredweena what b/c are you on?

By the way, whoever said that "all women complain about their weight and never get off their ass"... yeah, I'd have to say I've seen my share of out of shape, lazy men, too. I do think it really helps when both people in a relationship are working out regularly... one can encourage the other, in a form of accountability. Ktspktsp and I have been working out at the same time every MWF since the summer (we are 3 hours apart) and somehow I feel closer to him when I know we are doing those things "together."

noodle 11-30-2005 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by abaya
Gee, I do this once a WEEK. :lol: Sorry to interrupt the thread, but Fredweena what b/c are you on?

Yasmin. It rocks. I actually lost weight and had a rather um... large increase in libido. Heh.

end threadjack... sorry guys!

Shadefire 12-01-2005 05:52 AM

My problem is, I have to get up at 6:15 am to go to work in the first place. If I want to exersize I need to get up at around 5:30. I know I have to do it, I just can't make myself set the alarm for that early :(

Derwood 12-01-2005 06:11 AM

actual weight is very misleading. My wife is about 5' 7" and weighs around 180. But to look at her, you'd guess 15-20 lbs less. She can wear size 10 or 12 clothes. So is she just muscular? Dense bones? We watched this season of The Biggest Loser, and some of those women were only 20 or 30 lbs heavier than her, but were eaily twice as big around

thespian86 12-03-2005 08:31 PM

I have the same problem with my girlfriend only the reverse. We grew up together and were always in theatre together; she is a competitive dancer so she is not only naturally beautiful but unbelievably toned and in amazing shape, she's also a musical theatre student with me, but I'm no toned, ballet, light on his feet theatre boy. I'm 6'3, 224 (thats after losing a lot of weight post football) and I'm more of a strong vocalist, not so much the dancing. I always have a hard time with my body when she tells me that I'm handsome or that she is attracted to me. My advice is be persistant about loving herself but I don't see anything wrong with encouraging a healthy lifestyle, over weight or not. Skinny doesn't mean healthy; if she is flaking then I suggest you start with her, begin and encourage her to come along if it's becoming such a large problem... there are lots of solutions... none of them are her just deciding she's pretty because I was always an overwieght kid growing up and we all know it doesn't work that way.

Rubyee 12-03-2005 09:20 PM

I don't think she needs your help as much as you think she does. If she really wants to do this, she will do it with or without you.

You can help her mentally, though. I am going through what she is, and I know that I need the mental help. Here is what I mean.

If you go shopping with her and she complains about nothing fitting her, try helping her pick something out. She can find clothes that hide her weight. This is where you come in- be honest with her. Telling her that something looks better on her, and meaning it, will help. It will boost her self esteem and get her in a better mood.

Call her bluff- when she says I am going to diet and excersize, goad her on. Go to the grocery store and buy some health food. Tell her to get outside and walk around the block. If she knows that you are going to call her bluff, she will either stop saying it or start doing it.

Ask her about her progress. Ask her what she ate that day, how much activity she got in, and so on.

Have things ready for her. When she gets off work, have some work out clothes set aside and be ready to go for a bike ride with her or for a walk with her.

Reward her when she does accomplish something. Tell her that when she loses ten pounds, the two of you will go out and get matching tats, or bracelets, or something else that she might like.

If she sees that you aren't just going to sit back and wait for her to lose the weight, but really push her mentally to do so, she will be more apt to do this.

But remember to do all of these things without making it seem like YOU want her to lose the weight. Let her know that you are only trying to make her happy and make things easier on her.

xrayvision2 12-15-2005 09:39 AM

i would buy her a treadmill, and keep her away from fast food.

Derwood 12-15-2005 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubyee
But remember to do all of these things without making it seem like YOU want her to lose the weight. Let her know that you are only trying to make her happy and make things easier on her.

That's the real trick though, right? Because OF COURSE a guy would be happier if his SO was in great shape. Of course, if she whips out this argument, it's a surefirer sign that she isn't serious about losing the weight.

On another note, the "target weights" given by the medical field seem awfully thin to me. My wife has lamented more than a few times that the "ideal" weight for someone 5'7" is 135 lbs. That's a lot of pressure coming from a source that's not Cosmo

trache 12-15-2005 01:42 PM

My girlfriend was in a situation similar to this one about 2 years ago. She knew she had a problem, and wanted to fix it. Nothing she did seemed to work and then one day she ordered Dr. Phil's Ultimate Weight Solution book.

It was like a light went off in her head. I honestly don't know what is in that book, but she started to notice changes in her behaviour, eating and excercise habits right away.

Since then she has lost approximately 18 kilograms and has managed to keep it all off in two years. She is eating better than I am (that's the topic of another thread!) and she is a lot happier with herself and in her relationship with everyone else (I can't thank Dr. Phil enough!).

I would wholeheartedly recommend this book to anyone looking to lose weight or get fit. The first step is realizing you may have an issue and also a desire to actively combat it. If your girlfriend doesn't keep up with it, it will be a losing battle. It was hard for my girlfriend. Although she told me every day how she was doing (and I actively asked her and tried to push her gently), I can only imagine what was going on inside her mind. The problem is much more psychological than it is anything else, remember that.

Whatever her plan, tell her to always have people, things, and activities that play a positive role.

Plaid13 12-16-2005 02:03 PM

If its long distance and you cant spend alot of time with her theres not much you can do except just encourage her to eat a more balanced diet. if she does she will start feeling better and getting more energy to be able to work out more. Once you two are together you can work out together and maybe you should cook for her and get her eating better. Just changing from fast food and lots of soda to something more healthy would get her weight down to something she would be happy with and she would feel better if she ate better. At least i know i started feeling alot better when i stopped drinking sodas and eating fast food. and the huge weight loss was a nice bonus.

Most people that drink alot of sodas dont keep track of how much they drink or just how unhealthy it is. i found myself drinking like 8 cans of iced tea or coke a day 150 or so calories each adds up fast. just changing from that to water or some health drink is one hell of a nice cutback in calorie intake.

Mostly just cook for her when you two are together instead of going out to eat some greasy burger or something.

HalcyonDaze 12-21-2005 03:12 PM

I think diet is the first big step. Even if she doesn't have time to work out, if she changes what she eats (tons of fast food and stuff) she'll see a big improvement. And it doesn't take any more time to eat something healthy than it does a burger.

Maybe you should show her Supersize Me. That really shocked me.

As for exercise, you have to make it an activity. I can not motivate myself to go running or lift weights, but I have no problem getting out to play volleyball three times per week, tennis once and basketball a few times per month. Whatever she's into. The key is to make it fun, or competitive, or whatever does it for her. If she's not sporty, something like swing dancing lessons is a fantastic idea.

Finally, I just had to comment on this:

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I'm 5'8" and 140-145 pounds, and I wouldn't mind getting rid of my mini-gut.
Dude, I'm 5'9" and 148, and everybody says I'm the skinniest person they know. Unless you're missing one of your arms, there's no way you have a mini-gut.

Sultana 12-21-2005 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HalcyonDaze
And it doesn't take any more time to eat something healthy than it does a burger.

It doesn't take any more time to eat it, but it takes *a lot* more time to plan and prepare fresh, healthy meals.

Ustwo 12-21-2005 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HalcyonDaze
I think diet is the first big step. Even if she doesn't have time to work out, if she changes what she eats (tons of fast food and stuff) she'll see a big improvement. And it doesn't take any more time to eat something healthy than it does a burger.

Maybe you should show her Supersize Me. That really shocked me.

Well first off Supersize me is BS.

Secondly, I eat at McD's quite often with work and have lost weight. Just count the handy calories they put on their website and BINGO, you get thin.

Or is there something unhealthy about grilled chicken?

Willravel 12-21-2005 04:38 PM

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Well first off Supersize me is BS.

Oh no you didn't.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Secondly, I eat at McD's quite often with work and have lost weight. Just count the handy calories they put on their website and BINGO, you get thin.

Or is there something unhealthy about grilled chicken?

No, grilled chicken breast is quite healthy, and I'd reccomend anyone who isn't vegetarian or vegan to eat it. Of course, the mayo and katsup all over it, the 38 gallon drum of coka-cola, the massve amounts of fries (dripping in trans and saturated fats, sodium, and maybe theres an ounce of potato in there somewhere), and apple pie will hurt.

spindles 12-21-2005 06:58 PM

I just want to add a simple point. I hear the word "diet" (in terms of weight loss) and the connotation is that you will eat something different while you lose the weight, then go back to being "normal". All this tends to do is create a situation where the person's weight fluctuates dramamtically.

Deciding to eat healthier is a life decision, not a 3 month quick fix.

Is it time consuming to cook your own food? yes. Is it really an unmanageable large effort? no way.

Also, people seem to think dieting is a strict regime. Maybe it is, but you should not spend your life eating something tasteless for a healthier lifestyle - you do have to eat, so you may as well cook things you enjoy eating. And as far as I'm concerned, you can still have treats as long as you have control, or you don't overdo it.

CityOfAngels 12-21-2005 08:11 PM

Only bring it up if she brings it up. As much as you love her, "encouragement" is often construed as nagging, and can negatively affect her self-esteem. Because of this, make it seem like you're only interested in her losing weight because SHE's interested in losing weight. Recommend she see a nutritionist. I'll tell you right now the nutritionist will tell her to completely stop drinking soda, and if she HAS to drink soda, drink diet soda. The reason being is liquids don't get you full like solids, so you can drink to your heart's content and still be hungry. But one can of soda has slightly less calories than a donut. If she's drinking lots of sodas (out of the 2-liter; lots of refills in restaurants, etc.), she's pretty much eating lots of donuts as far as calories go.

I, personally, switched to diet soda this year after seeing a nutritionist. I don't know how much weight I've lost, but it is a considerable amount; and that's on my temporary hiatus from playing basketball. I can only imagine how much weight I'd be losing if I was still playing basketball every day.

One other thing the nutritionist told me that comes to mind is to make sure that half of all of your meals are vegetables.

Just make sure you give her advice in a loving, caring, and understanding way; and make sure she knows that it's not something you're dwelling on, but rather something you've noticed is bothering HER, and that you love her so much you want to help her be happy with herself, any way you can.

Edit: Oh yeah one more thing that is kinda obvious but the nutritionist told me anyways: Drink lots of water. Lay off ANY liquids with calories; not just soda. That means juice must be had in moderation, too.

HalcyonDaze 12-22-2005 11:38 AM

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Well first off Supersize me is BS.
Granted, they played it off a lot more dramatically than it probably really was. But I think the basic point of it is pretty true.

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Secondly, I eat at McD's quite often with work and have lost weight. Just count the handy calories they put on their website and BINGO, you get thin.

Or is there something unhealthy about grilled chicken?
The original poster said this about his girl's diet: "She has like the worst diet ever, no balanced meals, fast food, and lots of soda."

Somehow I don't think she's going into McDonald's and ordering the grilled chicken, a fruit cup, and water. I didn't tell him that she has to stop eating at McDonald's, I said she had to eat better.

Poppinjay 12-22-2005 12:30 PM

If you think Supersize Me is BS, and you still want to eat at McD's, read "Fast Food Nation".

Thumbs. Insect bits. Cartilage.

Now I know why they kept sauce secret.

Ustwo 12-22-2005 12:51 PM

The amusing thing about dieting is that its idiot simple.

EAT LESS CALOIRES THAN YOU BURN AND YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT.

Its that simple. It doesn't matter if you eat steamed broccoli or a bucket of lard, your body can't violate the laws of physics.

Now eating healthy is a whole different issue, and takes more work, but again....

EAT LESS CALORIES THAN YOU BURN AND YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT.

I am not sure why this concept is so difficult for people to grasp.

Lets take for example a McD's number 6 grilled ranch blt, with a coke.

Thats

Sandwhich: 490
Fries: 350
Coke: 210

Total = 1050

Now for my size and exercise level my 'break even' calories was calculated at 2600 a day.

I now have 1550 to play with if I want to maintain my weight.

Eat less than that I should lose weight, more I should gain.

When I was in weight loss mode I would just have the sandwhich, which despite the bacon and mayo, is 490 caloires, and it worked just fine.

Poppinjay 12-22-2005 01:03 PM

Yes. That is true. However, you also have to take into account that a healthy diet makes your body much more complaisant about excercise.

Eat 500 calories worth of McD's, burn 600, a net loss.

Eat 500 calories worth of greens and grains, burn 600, a net loss, and your arteries are happy, and you feel better as you walk/run/swing dance.

Ustwo 12-22-2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay
Yes. That is true. However, you also have to take into account that a healthy diet makes your body much more complaisant about excercise.

Eat 500 calories worth of McD's, burn 600, a net loss.

Eat 500 calories worth of greens and grains, burn 600, a net loss, and your arteries are happy, and you feel better as you walk/run/swing dance.

True, but both I would argue are better than being over weight.

I much prefer salads (though I like protein in there as well) but I've yet to find a fast food place that makes a good salad and it becomes a matter of convenience. If your diet is too much work, I'd argue it has a better chance to fail, so while eating 100% healthy would be great, eating less is a very good start.

I also don't think there is anything inherently unhealthy about McD's. I don't think a little mayo is going to kill you can you can order it without. Its quite possible to get a chicken sandwich with just tomato and lettuce, which I would call healthy. Bland but healthy.

Willravel 12-22-2005 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
True, but both I would argue are better than being over weight.

I much prefer salads (though I like protein in there as well) but I've yet to find a fast food place that makes a good salad and it becomes a matter of convenience. If your diet is too much work, I'd argue it has a better chance to fail, so while eating 100% healthy would be great, eating less is a very good start.

I also don't think there is anything inherently unhealthy about McD's. I don't think a little mayo is going to kill you can you can order it without. Its quite possible to get a chicken sandwich with just tomato and lettuce, which I would call healthy. Bland but healthy.

Yes, the bottom line is that one should regularly burn off an equal or greater amount of calories than one ingests. But McDonalds? (According to information gathered from the McDonald's Australia website) The Roast Chicken Salad derives 27.58% of its kJ from fat. 28% of your calories from fat in a salad seems a bit ridiculous. The Caesar salad with Chicken Premiere has 18.4 grams of fat.

My point is...how hard is it to go to a supermarket and buy an apple? How hard is it to grab one of those bags of spinach and mixed greens? The supermarket is just as fast as most fast food places around here. I can get a damn healthy salad at Trader Joe's for lunch, and not have to worry about cardiovascular problems or liver damage. McDonalds and other fast food places are not your only option when you're on the run. I've avoided fast food for years now, and I've not lost any time.

Poppinjay 12-22-2005 01:54 PM

I went to Trader Joe's for lunch today and was accosted by charity ne'er do wells. they put on the most aggressive pitch I've ever heard. Buy a crappy mug for $10, or a VHS copy of "Arthur" for $5, and money helps fingerprint children so we can recognize their remains.

The problem, by buying the mug or the VHS copy of "Arthur" (perhaps the most worthless piece of carbon in the DC area) I lose the donation tax credit.

If I had known, I would have gone to McDonalds and had a McKidlet sandwish with extra DNA samples.

Willravel 12-22-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay
I went to Trader Joe's for lunch today and was accosted by charity ne'er do wells. they put on the most aggressive pitch I've ever heard. Buy a crappy mug for $10, or a VHS copy of "Arthur" for $5, and money helps fingerprint children so we can recognize their remains.

The problem, by buying the mug or the VHS copy of "Arthur" (perhaps the most worthless piece of carbon in the DC area) I lose the donation tax credit.

If I had known, I would have gone to McDonalds and had a McKidlet sandwish with extra DNA samples.

:lol: ouch

Safeway sounds safe, if by name only. I usually go to Trader Joe's because they tend to have less processed foods. Their juice is second to none, their selection is great for a store so centered on health. They are a rally point for the crazies of my political party, though. Watch out, or they'll get ya!

Ustwo 12-22-2005 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Yes, the bottom line is that one should regularly burn off an equal or greater amount of calories than one ingests. But McDonalds? (According to information gathered from the McDonald's Australia website) The Roast Chicken Salad derives 27.58% of its kJ from fat. 28% of your calories from fat in a salad seems a bit ridiculous. The Caesar salad with Chicken Premiere has 18.4 grams of fat.

My point is...how hard is it to go to a supermarket and buy an apple? How hard is it to grab one of those bags of spinach and mixed greens? The supermarket is just as fast as most fast food places around here. I can get a damn healthy salad at Trader Joe's for lunch, and not have to worry about cardiovascular problems or liver damage. McDonalds and other fast food places are not your only option when you're on the run. I've avoided fast food for years now, and I've not lost any time.

I don't see fat in the diet as a problem in itself, and where I can, I lower carbohydrates rather than fat. We evolved for a high fat diet, not a high carbohydrate diet.

That being said I'd rather have fish and a veggie, but it IS quite difficult at times, and it is just easier to drive through. When doing so I just lower my intake. Lost 30 lbs since last year, feel great, look great, kept it off, and the wife has returned to being a hottie after having a baby (guess now that makes her a true MILF). More than once in this time we found it easier to drive through and get a sandwich.

I think the key here is not making every meal at McD's, but you don't have to feel bad about it either.

Willravel 12-22-2005 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I don't see fat in the diet as a problem in itself, and where I can, I lower carbohydrates rather than fat. We evolved for a high fat diet, not a high carbohydrate diet.

Humans have been eating fruit and vegetables for just as long as we've been eating meat. Those are quite high in carbohydrates, as well as vitamins and minerals that are wonderful for any humans diet. I still say that a diet should be 1/3 protien, 1/3 fat, and 1/3 carbohydrates, most, if not all, from natural sources.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
That being said I'd rather have fish and a veggie, but it IS quite difficult at times, and it is just easier to drive through. When doing so I just lower my intake. Lost 30 lbs since last year, feel great, look great, kept it off, and the wife has returned to being a hottie after having a baby (guess now that makes her a true MILF). More than once in this time we found it easier to drive through and get a sandwich.

I think the key here is not making every meal at McD's, but you don't have to feel bad about it either.

Congrats on the healthy lifestyle. Fish is kinda difficlut to do on the run. I'm not suggesting that one should completly abstain from McDonalds, just eat it sparingly. I'd say don't do anything fast food more than maybe once or twice a week, and make sure you actually get up and exercise. Even with a completly healthy diet, you can still manage to be unhealthy if you don't get off the couch every once in a while and go for a walk or play some basketball or something.

bloodychill 12-27-2005 02:28 AM

More cushion for the pushin, I say.

motdakasha 12-27-2005 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by visotech
...Is it my territory to help her reach her goals, or should I step back and let her handle it?

I wouldn't say it's your sole responsibility, but if she's willing to accept your aid, then it doesn't hurt to nudge her in the right direction. I think the least offensive and most supportive way to go about this would be to do it together. Or rather, choose to be healthy and invite her along.

I'm not reading everyone's suggestions, but I'm sure they are probably in the same vein...

1) Don't make it about losing weight. We know that's what she wants, but to get there she need to be healthy. Make it about choosing a healthier lifestyle.

2) You say she eats junk food. Make a date with her and cook a meal. If she asks what type of fast food tonight, offer to shop together at the grocery store. Experimenting with recipes could be a bonding experience. (The thing about recipes is that they tell you what to do, so you don't really need to know how to cook to cook because it's all there. If you are unfamiliar with a cooking technique like how to make a roux... that's what Google is for. Everyone can cook, no excuses.)

If she is hestitant, discuss with her the financial benefits of homecooking. Chronic fast food eating is a lot like smoking: an unhealthy and expensive habit. Not to mention saving your tastebuds.

Dieting makes up 15%, at most, of weight loss, everything else is exercise. Please note, a diet is a permanent lifestyle choice, not a temporary weight loss binge. Calorie counting is the best form of dieting for the purpose of losing weight, but it's very tedious and requires commitment. It's much easier to just aim for small to medium sized well-rounded meals, three times a day or more. Small healthy snacks in between to stifle hunger. You could get together to decide on recipes or meals for the week ahead so there is less fumbling about when it's lunch or dinner time. And don't forget the vegetables!

3) Walking. Buy two cheap odometers (you can buy them for less than 5$) and compete with each other who can get the most steps in a day, week, or month. A healthy person squeezes in about 8,000-10,000 steps in a day (5+ miles). It doesn't have to be all at once and having the meter there makes you conscious of when you could sneak in a few more steps. Taking the stairs instead of the elevator, parking at the far end of a lot, getting up from the computer every 30 minutes to stretch as recommended to save your back, and taking a casual walk around the block after dinner to digest are all ways to sneak in a few steps. You could even gift her a journal so she can keep track. Or if she's geeky, set up an Excel sheet that calculates averages and totals for the week, month, or whathaveyou.

4) Offer to sign up with her for some beginner yoga classes. Or rent some instructional videos if you both don't have any known injuries and are generally speaking healthy individuals. Just 20 minutes a day, every day, of yoga or stretching can get you into shape. Try making it a morning or evening routine. Not only is this healthy but could add a little spice in bed. (Kama Sutra anyone?)

dangel 01-14-2006 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodychill
More cushion for the pushin, I say.

Your girlfriend sounds like mine: started dating, went on the pill, having a good time and eating and drinking too much. After a year of this, she had gained 40 pounds. She too was bummed about it and started diets that would last a week or two, but by year 3 she was 70 pounds heavier. I didn't care and since we've gotten married she totally quit trying to lose weight and has gained a lot more.
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In my case I don't mind, I like her the way she is now, but if you don't want your girlfriend to keep gaining I would say something now because it's a slippery slope. Fat Girlfriends

doncalypso 01-15-2006 02:12 PM

My ex had started to let herself go... Good thing my current girlfriend definitely does a good job at keeping herself fit and looking sexy.

Hell.... now I feel like I need to do a better job at keeping myself fit.

Delivery Girl 01-21-2006 02:10 PM

You know... being fit is definately something to shoot for but when "encouraging" someone along you have to be gentle and cautious. My "soon-to-be" ex-husband was very frustrated with me after I had our two children. I am 5'10" and around 190.. I've never been slight framed...I mean in high school I was 155-145(at my VERY lightest) and could bench near my weight...almost 145. I am very athletic and from what people tell me, I'm still hot...even 35-40lbs over weight. My youngest daughter is 22 months and my husband started in on my for not dropping the weight when she was 4 months old! He'd say things like "we're you going to work ou?" "you know if you don't use the gym its a waste of money...if you don't want to loose the weight and just look like THAT, I guess that's your choice...BUT...I don't know if I can handle it." "why are you eating that...have some self control" These may not sound too bad but believe me, everything he said had a severe negative spin on it.
And, I believe you need to give a woman support in a POSITIVE WAY! Reward her...buy her flowers when she reaches a goal she set by herself...DON'T PUSH HER! Let her cry when she's frustrated...and most importantly be involved. When you set a diet together, don't bring things into the house you know is not on your diet. After all, you can only benefit by eating better. Packing her lunch before work is also a great way to support your partner. It's convenient for them because they don't have to think of what might be good later and it gives you an opportunity to write her an encouraging little note an surprise her at lunch. This will also eliminate her need to hit the fast food!
At any rate, nothing will change until she's ready in her own mind to make the shift. I am finally stable in my heart/mind and am fed up with feeling unhealthy and have decided to join 2 exercise classes and better myself...and this time it's NOT to make my husband happy, it's to feel good in my own skin!


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