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Old 05-19-2008, 08:46 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Wow. I thought coke was passe.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:52 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:58 AM   #43 (permalink)
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dlish- although my post is kind of going in circles and i apologise for the misunderstanding, I am going on the basis that everything can be done in moderation, (well i cant speak for everyone, but ive done it before, and that was a year ago.) So i think im pretty safe with the addiction part, and luckily i have friends who im really tight with (like family) who know what i decided to do and are constantly looking out for me, you know keeping tabs on me if u will. Having said that, i repeat my question about the maximum dosage per night becuase like i said, its my way of beeing as safe as possible while i do use this stuff every now and again. Thanks for the comment. btw, this is my first registry to a forum, so you'll have to pardon my sometimes incoherent writing. Thanks again.
Going on the basis that everything is fine in moderation is your first mistake. Although some things are fine in moderation, (alcohol, cheeseburgers, etc) some things are never OK even in moderation. (I am saying this from a safety, not a moral perspective, just to be clear). Playing Russian roulette very occasionally is not cool, slamming your nuts in a car door, is not good, even if done bi-annually, driving 130 on the highway is not good, even if done only once or twice a month,and likewise, doing coke "in moderation" is not good either. For the record, if you continue to do coke, your risk of being a loser is far greater than dying from a heart attack. (OK, that last part was somewhat judgmental, sorry).
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:02 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:44 AM   #45 (permalink)
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the maximum is different for every person, based on their weight and chemistry. as someone who had a phase with coke though, i'd say keep it to less than a gram a night... beyond that point your not even getting high anymore anyway.

i've had my dabbling phases with every drug except crack, and i believe there are plenty of people who do drugs occasionally and live their lives just fine... you just don't hear about them because they never end up in rehab or in a study or anything.

to me, coke was a lot like ecstasy.... fun at first, but then the high gets more and more fleeting over time. also, there's a price you pay coming down that can last for up to about a week and a half if you pay attention. in the end, the one night of fun doesn't equate to the week of over-sleeping and slight depression you have to get through to recover.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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sorry i sounded so condescending BNW. my apologies.

ive seen too many stories like yours first hand. i lived and grew up around kids who did this thought of thing, and most are in jail, have been to jail or just about to go to jail. not because of the drug taking itself, but everything else that drugs entail...the whole drugs/crime relationship.

ive seen perfectly good people totally fuck their lives up in an instant with the shit.

i dont mean for this to be a lecture. im sure you have heard it all before and that you are old enough.

welcome to the TFP btw!
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:31 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Sigmund Freud had good things to say about....that first year, anyway:
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....Coca is a far more potent and far less harmful stimulant than alcohol, and its widespread utilization is hindered at present only by its high cost.

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Like Mantegazza and Frankl, I have experienced personally how the painful symptoms attendant upon large meals – viz, a feeling of pressure and fullness in the stomach, discomfort and a disinclination to work – disappear with eructation following small doses of cocaine (0.025–0.05). Time and again I have brought such relief to my colleagues; and twice I observed how the nausea resulting from gastronomic excesses responded in a short time to the effects of cocaine, and gave way to a normal desire to eat and a feeling of bodily well-being. I have also learned to spare myself stomach troubles by adding a small amount of cocaine to salicylate of soda.

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Accordingly, I should say that the use of coca is definitely indicated in cases of atomic digestive weakness and the so-called nervous stomach disorders; in such cases it is possible to achieve not merely a relief of the symptoms but a lasting improvement.

c) Coca in cachexia. Long-term use of coca is further strongly recommended and allegedly has been tried with success – in all diseases which involve degeneration of the tissues, such as severe anemia, phthisis, long-lasting febrile diseases, etc.; and also during recovery from such diseases.

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I once had occasion to observe the case of a man who was subjected to the type of cure involving the sudden withdrawal of morphine, assisted by the use of coca; the same patient had suffered severe symptoms as a result of abstinence in the course of a previous cure. This time his condition was tolerable; in particular, there was no sign of depression or nausea as long as the effects of coca lasted; chills and diarrhea were now the only permanent symptoms of his abstinence. The patient was not bedridden, and could function normally. During the first days of the cure he consumed 3dg of cocaïnum muriaticum daily, and after ten days he was able to dispense with the coca treatment altogether.

The treatment of morphine addiction with coca does not, therefore, result merely in the exchange of one kind of addiction for another – it does not turn the morphine addict into a coquero; the use of coca is only temporary. Moreover, I do not think that it is the general toughening effect of coca which enables the system weakened by morphine to withstand, at the cost of only insignificant symptoms, the withdrawal of morphine. I am rather inclined to assume that coca has a directly antagonistic effect on morphine...

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f) Coca as an aphrodisiac. The natives of South America, who represented their goddess of love with coca leaves in her hand, did not doubt the stimulative effect of coca on the genitalia. Mantegazza confirms that the coqueros sustain a high degree of potency right into old age; he even reports cases of the restoration of potency and the disappearance of functional weaknesses following the use of coca, although he does not believe that coca would produce such an effect in all individuals. Marvaud emphatically supports the view that coca has a stimulative effect; other writers strongly recommend coca as a remedy for occasional functional weaknesses and temporary exhaustion; and Bentley reports on a case of this type in which coca was responsible for the cure.

Among the persons to whom I have given coca, three reported violent sexual excitement which they unhesitatingly attributed to the coca. A young writer, who was enabled by treatment with coca to resume his work after a longish illness, gave up using the drug because of the undesirable secondary effects which it had on him.
After trying it a few times, I found it's effects underwhelming, considering the costs and the problem of the influence on the supply chain that it's illegality caused. You can only buy it from dealers of hard illegal drugs or from friends who buy it from them....

I ended up doing it as New Years eve "treat", for a few years, and then, not all.

I think, illegality aside, alcohol and cigarets are more immediately dangerous. I come from a time when there was much more concern about objecting to waging avoidable war and objecting to government oppression, than there was objecting to drug use.

It's a matter of priorities....I understand, not so much, the way they are ordered today. I don't think we've suffered 254,000 casualties to our young people, these last 5 years, as a consequence of coke use.

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:40 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Cocaine is a helluva drug.

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Old 05-19-2008, 03:08 PM   #49 (permalink)
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what ive learned is this. coke can make some wimmins super horny and get them in a sexual mood that they usually don't get into. this is fine and dandy when you have your 9 hour sex session with dildos, rimjobs, anal, 45 minute blowjobs, and a whole lot of stuff that usually doesn't take place.
Well.....then you get that longing to have that crazy sex again.....so you get more coke and do it again. Then again.....then again...then again.....you get the idea.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:40 AM   #50 (permalink)
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you really don't want to be fucking with it. especially the low quality 60% sheet rock that gets to america.
It's really easy to wash and purify with household chemicals since it's insoluble in anhydrous acetone and most things it would be cut with are very soluble. To those who are going to use it regardless of how many people feel a need to tell everyone that drugs are bad, Google acetone cocaine wash with no quotes and I'm sure you'll find out how to do it without poisoning yourself after looking at the first few pages of links.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:50 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Thanks to all the replies. It turns out that at the end of the day, the come down is so not worth it. So another experience for the personal "filing cabinet." Back to the Mary Jane i guess. No complaints there.
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:07 AM   #52 (permalink)
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ive done it a few times (not really proud of it) but i've never had any limping effect with me. It just probably have different effect on people.

Although the same happens to me when i drink a lot of whiskey...anyhooo

try a cock ring ones your hard, that will usually keep you up .
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Old 05-21-2008, 11:02 AM   #53 (permalink)
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This is just one more reason not to try cocaine. That, and I'm afraid I might like it too much.
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Old 05-23-2008, 05:18 AM   #54 (permalink)
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what ive learned is this. coke can make some wimmins super horny and get them in a sexual mood that they usually don't get into. this is fine and dandy when you have your 9 hour sex session with dildos, rimjobs, anal, 45 minute blowjobs, and a whole lot of stuff that usually doesn't take place.
Well.....then you get that longing to have that crazy sex again.....so you get more coke and do it again. Then again.....then again...then again.....you get the idea.

Indeed. Years back when I did that stuff I dated a girl who would do ANYTHING when coked up. Anything in any hole. Nothing was off limits.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:14 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Cocaine and moderation just do not fit in the same sentence, from my experience.
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