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raeanna74 · 07-26-2005, 07:35 AM

I did a search and found one other thread regarding tubal ligation. It said a lot about vasectomy though as well and didn't address one big question that's in my mind.

I am seriously considering going off the pill once and for all. I'd personally like to have the procedure done instead of hubby because I do not - absolutely do not want an accident. Especially with our lifestyle.

Now my Mom is quite anxious that I want to have this done. She has not voiced any concerns about me not having more grandkids. She's already expecting twins on my brother's side so she'll have plenty to do. She's not an active grandparent either. She does say that she's known several women who had ligations or had their tubes tied. She said that there were lots of side effects including weight gain, monthly cramps were worse and there was supposedly one where the tubes had been cut and somehow she managed to get an ectopic pregnancy. She's got quite a few horror stories.

Mom says that the Dr's get kickbacks from the birthcontrol pill companies. Dunno if it's true or not. But she believes the Dr's won't tell me the truth or all of it anyway. So I'm going to you guys. I'd like to hear from you if you are aware of side effects. I haven't found reliable sources on the internet that list many side effects. If you can find any I would appreciate it greatly.

So are the side effects and what are they? The procedure doesn't scare me at all. I would also like to know which you consider better, Tying the tubes or cutting them?? and which is more effective, equal??

lurkette · 07-26-2005, 08:14 AM

http://www.plannedparenthood.com/pp2...rilization.xml

I haven't seen much info on side effects, either, probably because there aren't many. Hormones should be the same, since you're leaving the ovaries intact. I've seen some pretty strident rhetoric out there about something called "post tubal ligation syndrome" but it appears to be anecdotal at best - there might be a small group of women who have hormonal difficulties after a ligation, but they're rare, and chances are they were probably pre-existing hormone problems that were masked by birth control pill use before ligation.

maleficent · 07-26-2005, 08:25 AM

My sister had it done after their 4th child... and she's a huge hypochondriac... if there were side effects, honestly, she would have had them... Anything she reads about or hears about, she will have or thought she had at some point in her life. She had it done after the ceserean on their 4th - the doc already had her open so thats why they decided to do it then, I'm not so sure she would have had it done if not for the ceserean.

It's invasive surgery and any invasive surgery has it's risks... so I'd really think about having it done...

I could have them reversed, but I believe cutting is more effective, but tying them makes it easier to reverse - and at your age, you might want this reversable.

raeanna74 · 07-27-2005, 04:54 AM

Anyone know about the non-incision method?? It seems that's what the majority of them are now in our nearby hospital. It seems that there could be cramping from the springs in the tubes but I'm looking for anecdotal evidence one way or the other.

maleficent · 07-27-2005, 07:33 AM

Hey R - have you had a conversation with your doctor about this? I understand the objective of not getting pregnant... but do you also want to get off the birth control pills. Would you still take birth control pills.. I seem to recall that you were on a specific pill because it lessened the migraines that you got...

Birth control pills do have some positive effects, not only lessening the severity of cramps and such, but also lessens the chances of contracting ovarian cancer.

Charlatan · 07-27-2005, 07:43 AM

From what I know, a vasectomy is much safer and WAY less invasive. Why not convince your husband to have a procedure rather than you?

Redlemon · 07-27-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan

From what I know, a vasectomy is much safer and WAY less invasive. Why not convince your husband to have a procedure rather than you?

She answered that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by raeanna74

I'd personally like to have the procedure done instead of hubby because I do not - absolutely do not want an accident. Especially with our lifestyle.

For 'lifestyle', read 'swinging'.

Charlatan · 07-27-2005, 08:07 AM

Ah... missed that.

Sounds like you should both have it done to prevent accidents.

raeanna74 · 07-27-2005, 10:37 AM

I talked to the Dr yesterday about it. She recommended the non-incision method and told me who she'd refer me to if I wanted to go ahead with it.

My reservation is that I had been taking the pill to help with my migranes. On the 4th I went to my placebos for the first time in 9 weeks - I'm on a 10 week cycle. I did not have a migrane when I went off. I normally did. The thing that is different is that I have been taking Iodine. My thyroid is weak and the Dr agrees that the Iodine is important for me. The reason I'm wanting to get off the hormones is that excess estrogen in the system can be detrimental for the thyroid. In my case I want to do all that I can to preserve my thyroid. Every woman in my family, back three generations, on both sides (4 on the maternal side) have had thyroid problems and most had to take thyroid hormones.

These are the reasons I'm wanting to get off the pill. I talked to my Dr yesterday and she pretty much left it up to me. She suggested that I go off for a few months before I made the final decision because if my migranes get worse or I get severe cramping then I would perhaps want to go back on my pill. She would give me the go ahead if I chose to get it done anyway.

As for us both doing it. I would much prefer that. My need is greater than hubbies as MOST of the women he ends up playing with are menopausal, or have been fixed themselves. The rest of the women are either on the pill or use condoms. In my position, I'm allergic to latex, and the other kinds of condoms can get expensive.

fightnight · 07-27-2005, 07:50 PM

If I'm not mistaken, aren't migranes often a periodic thing in life. They'll happen to someone for a period of time, then never again? I know that's how cluster headaches are, my father used to have them. Hopefully it's similar with migranes and you're just past your stage!!!! As for the Dr.'s getting kickbacks.... sounds creepy, hope it ain't true, certainly not ethical (what a surprise!!).

raeanna74 · 07-28-2005, 05:22 AM

My mother has had migranes since she was a teenager and she is 57 now. I have had them for the past 15 years (almost half my life). I have found that my thyroid and my Iron levels directly affect the migranes. I forgot to take my Iodine and Iron 2 mornings in a row and promptly had a migrane. I believe there is a direct relationship between the two and am hoping that I've found my key. I've had cluster headaches as well. We discovered that at that point I was anemic and since I've been taking Iron regularly I haven't had cluster headaches at all.

fightnight · 07-28-2005, 05:53 AM

I know cluster headaches are very easily triggered by certain things in your body. My dad's were triggered by eating any MSG or having any alcohol. They were both recipes for disaster. So strange, but he's been totally free of them for about 5 years now. Still avoids the triggers to not tempt fate, but they're pretty much gone. Maybe the same isn't true with migranes. Sorry to get a bit off topic!!!

Blonddie · 07-28-2005, 09:23 PM

Hey-
I can respond to this- I get migraines and have had my tubes tied. You are probally onto something with the Iodine, etc. I know that you are intelligent enough to figure out how your body reacts to things. And if you want you can still get hormones --or the pill' -- even after you have your tubes tied. I had mine done after my third daughter was born, and don't notice any changes. You may at first, depending on which procedure you have, but it will not effect you like a hysterectomy or anything. You'll still get periods, and all that comes with that, but the chances of pregnancy are very small. ( Trust me-- I have tested the limits! ask my hubby! lol) So,I think it was one of the best things to do. Good Luck with whatever you decide!

raeanna74 · 08-01-2005, 06:44 PM

I'm taking the plunge. Going for a consult on Wed with a Dr who uses the Essure Device for incisionless sterilization. Wish me luck. Looks like my insurance may make me wait 30 days before proceeding.

raeanna74 · 08-04-2005, 09:16 AM

It will be laproscopic instead of the Essure device for various reasons that I'm ok with. Looking like I'll get it done Sept 8th. I'm supposed to wait 35 days - insurance policy. I waited a year to finally decide I doubt I'll get cold feet now. Oh well.

07-26-2005, 07:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Tubal - side effects I did a search and found one other thread regarding tubal ligation. It said a lot about vasectomy though as well and didn't address one big question that's in my mind. I am seriously considering going off the pill once and for all. I'd personally like to have the procedure done instead of hubby because I do not - absolutely do not want an accident. Especially with our lifestyle. Now my Mom is quite anxious that I want to have this done. She has not voiced any concerns about me not having more grandkids. She's already expecting twins on my brother's side so she'll have plenty to do. She's not an active grandparent either. She does say that she's known several women who had ligations or had their tubes tied. She said that there were lots of side effects including weight gain, monthly cramps were worse and there was supposedly one where the tubes had been cut and somehow she managed to get an ectopic pregnancy. She's got quite a few horror stories. Mom says that the Dr's get kickbacks from the birthcontrol pill companies. Dunno if it's true or not. But she believes the Dr's won't tell me the truth or all of it anyway. So I'm going to you guys. I'd like to hear from you if you are aware of side effects. I haven't found reliable sources on the internet that list many side effects. If you can find any I would appreciate it greatly. So are the side effects and what are they? The procedure doesn't scare me at all. I would also like to know which you consider better, Tying the tubes or cutting them?? and which is more effective, equal?? __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

07-26-2005, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
lurkette My future is coming on Moderator Emeritus Location: east of the sun and west of the moon	http://www.plannedparenthood.com/pp2...rilization.xml I haven't seen much info on side effects, either, probably because there aren't many. Hormones should be the same, since you're leaving the ovaries intact. I've seen some pretty strident rhetoric out there about something called "post tubal ligation syndrome" but it appears to be anecdotal at best - there might be a small group of women who have hormonal difficulties after a ligation, but they're rare, and chances are they were probably pre-existing hormone problems that were masked by birth control pill use before ligation. __________________ "If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France

07-26-2005, 08:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	My sister had it done after their 4th child... and she's a huge hypochondriac... if there were side effects, honestly, she would have had them... Anything she reads about or hears about, she will have or thought she had at some point in her life. She had it done after the ceserean on their 4th - the doc already had her open so thats why they decided to do it then, I'm not so sure she would have had it done if not for the ceserean. It's invasive surgery and any invasive surgery has it's risks... so I'd really think about having it done... I could have them reversed, but I believe cutting is more effective, but tying them makes it easier to reverse - and at your age, you might want this reversable. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

07-27-2005, 04:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Anyone know about the non-incision method?? It seems that's what the majority of them are now in our nearby hospital. It seems that there could be cramping from the springs in the tubes but I'm looking for anecdotal evidence one way or the other. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

07-27-2005, 07:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	Hey R - have you had a conversation with your doctor about this? I understand the objective of not getting pregnant... but do you also want to get off the birth control pills. Would you still take birth control pills.. I seem to recall that you were on a specific pill because it lessened the migraines that you got... Birth control pills do have some positive effects, not only lessening the severity of cramps and such, but also lessens the chances of contracting ovarian cancer. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

07-27-2005, 07:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	From what I know, a vasectomy is much safer and WAY less invasive. Why not convince your husband to have a procedure rather than you? __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

07-27-2005, 08:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Ah... missed that. Sounds like you should both have it done to prevent accidents. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

07-27-2005, 10:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	I talked to the Dr yesterday about it. She recommended the non-incision method and told me who she'd refer me to if I wanted to go ahead with it. My reservation is that I had been taking the pill to help with my migranes. On the 4th I went to my placebos for the first time in 9 weeks - I'm on a 10 week cycle. I did not have a migrane when I went off. I normally did. The thing that is different is that I have been taking Iodine. My thyroid is weak and the Dr agrees that the Iodine is important for me. The reason I'm wanting to get off the hormones is that excess estrogen in the system can be detrimental for the thyroid. In my case I want to do all that I can to preserve my thyroid. Every woman in my family, back three generations, on both sides (4 on the maternal side) have had thyroid problems and most had to take thyroid hormones. These are the reasons I'm wanting to get off the pill. I talked to my Dr yesterday and she pretty much left it up to me. She suggested that I go off for a few months before I made the final decision because if my migranes get worse or I get severe cramping then I would perhaps want to go back on my pill. She would give me the go ahead if I chose to get it done anyway. As for us both doing it. I would much prefer that. My need is greater than hubbies as MOST of the women he ends up playing with are menopausal, or have been fixed themselves. The rest of the women are either on the pill or use condoms. In my position, I'm allergic to latex, and the other kinds of condoms can get expensive. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

07-27-2005, 07:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
fightnight Insane Location: The lovely Northeast	If I'm not mistaken, aren't migranes often a periodic thing in life. They'll happen to someone for a period of time, then never again? I know that's how cluster headaches are, my father used to have them. Hopefully it's similar with migranes and you're just past your stage!!!! As for the Dr.'s getting kickbacks.... sounds creepy, hope it ain't true, certainly not ethical (what a surprise!!).

07-28-2005, 05:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	My mother has had migranes since she was a teenager and she is 57 now. I have had them for the past 15 years (almost half my life). I have found that my thyroid and my Iron levels directly affect the migranes. I forgot to take my Iodine and Iron 2 mornings in a row and promptly had a migrane. I believe there is a direct relationship between the two and am hoping that I've found my key. I've had cluster headaches as well. We discovered that at that point I was anemic and since I've been taking Iron regularly I haven't had cluster headaches at all. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

07-28-2005, 05:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
fightnight Insane Location: The lovely Northeast	I know cluster headaches are very easily triggered by certain things in your body. My dad's were triggered by eating any MSG or having any alcohol. They were both recipes for disaster. So strange, but he's been totally free of them for about 5 years now. Still avoids the triggers to not tempt fate, but they're pretty much gone. Maybe the same isn't true with migranes. Sorry to get a bit off topic!!!

07-28-2005, 09:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
Blonddie Crazy Location: Southern California	Hey- I can respond to this- I get migraines and have had my tubes tied. You are probally onto something with the Iodine, etc. I know that you are intelligent enough to figure out how your body reacts to things. And if you want you can still get hormones --or the pill' -- even after you have your tubes tied. I had mine done after my third daughter was born, and don't notice any changes. You may at first, depending on which procedure you have, but it will not effect you like a hysterectomy or anything. You'll still get periods, and all that comes with that, but the chances of pregnancy are very small. ( Trust me-- I have tested the limits! ask my hubby! lol) So,I think it was one of the best things to do. Good Luck with whatever you decide! __________________ "There's one in every family...two in mine actually.."--- Zazu

08-01-2005, 06:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	I'm taking the plunge. Going for a consult on Wed with a Dr who uses the Essure Device for incisionless sterilization. Wish me luck. Looks like my insurance may make me wait 30 days before proceeding. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

08-04-2005, 09:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	It will be laproscopic instead of the Essure device for various reasons that I'm ok with. Looking like I'll get it done Sept 8th. I'm supposed to wait 35 days - insurance policy. I waited a year to finally decide I doubt I'll get cold feet now. Oh well. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.