EventHorizon

hard to say for sure... post them and let TFP decide

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don't actually do it...

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Does Marcellus Wallace have the appearance of a female canine? Then for what reason did you attempt to copulate with him as if he were a female canine?

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Originally Posted by canuckguy Pretty simple really, do your own thing as long as it does not fuck with anyone's enjoyment of life.

The_Jazz

Absolutely, positively NOT. Do NOT post them here unless you have special dispensation from the staff.

Duck, you'll notice that all the naked pictures that you can see are public domain. We have no idea about the copyrights on your pictures, and it's possible/likely that there are conflicts there. So if you're here to trash you ex, please stick to doing it in writing.

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EventHorizon

that was meant as a joke btw. i apologize if i caused any heart attacks

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Does Marcellus Wallace have the appearance of a female canine? Then for what reason did you attempt to copulate with him as if he were a female canine?

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Originally Posted by canuckguy Pretty simple really, do your own thing as long as it does not fuck with anyone's enjoyment of life.

The Duck

Not Daft enough to post them on here. Thats not my intention at all..Sorry for making people think i was gonna post them here .. No.. my point is if she was consenting at the time and now she has pretty much forgotten about them/or does not care do I have a legal right to put them where ever they hell I want bearing in mind I am in most of them also ??

The_Jazz

The short answer is "yes, if you blur her face". If she's recognizeable, you don't.

The longer answer is much more complex.

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The Duck

Cheers Jazz but to expand a little. What would be the point in that ? She could deny all knowledge and say it was not her ?? unless someone stumbled across them and regconised her spotty hairy ass (chances are they already have pics of her so they will be already screwed by her) I want to know if the pics she consented to going on swinger sites that i have access to I can post under her name so if you googled her you could see them ??

The_Jazz

Well, let's start with ethically, that's wrong. Period. That makes you a bad guy. I don't care what she did to you or what other justification you want to use, it's just wrong to post her pictures in a googlable way as pure revenge.

If you're copacetic with the ethical reason why not, there's a question over who owns the pictures and whether or not you're free to post them with her name associated. Unless you have a model release signed by her, you're most likely not free to do that. She has an expectation that her real name would not be associated with them, and you'd be the one explaining to the judge why you thought it was ok to violate that expectation.

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The Duck

ok lets start by "can you drop the wikkipedia words like "Copacetic" I aint got the time to go google that shit.. Secondly the "ETHICAL" reason??? do me a favour I speak for all guys that have been fucked over by slags/sluts/etc.. I think it's about time that us poor unfortunates who have "legitimately" been screwed over by money grabbing bitches had our say!!! and not be chastised for giving our own opinions. Sadly in the UK there is a growing culture of getting pregnant at 18 then finding a "decent" bloke to bring up their children, till they get their house,car etc ..then kicking his ass into touch and go back to living on BENEFITS!!!

LordEden

Anything done out spite or bitterness, should not be done at all.

She fucked you over? Join the crowd and move on, the rest of the world has. In what way will your life be better because you publicly shamed her to her friends and family? She may look trashy for a second, but you are going to look like a douchebag for a while.

*****

Even if you didn't understand what the exact definition of the word was, the context is easy to pick up.

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The_Jazz

Sorry you don't like the way I write. That's too bad for you since I'm not going to change. It's my professional opinion, though, that you take the chip off your shoulder before it gets you in trouble.

I've been fucked over by women, and you don't speak for me; I can give you a list of other guys here at TFP that I think will agree with me if you'd like. What you want to do is WRONG. If you're so hurt that you can't see that, I'm sorry. I'd be happy to listen to you vent and help you in other ways, but jumping down my throat because I answered your question is pretty fucking uncool. Not quite as uncool as wanting to trash your ex all over the world, but uncool nonetheless.

I get that you're in pain, but wanting to scream from the rooftops "look at this whore!" isn't going to solve anything.

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monkeysugar

Tossing up pictures of your ex's without their consent would be a pretty fucked up move, in my opinion. Ethically, morally, karmically, potentially legally, bad news.

Sorry to hear that is a "growing culture" in the UK. It's been happening all over the world for years. Unfortunately there tend to be some decent blokes that still fall for it, hook line and sinker. Most of them are douchebags. Despite all of that, it typically happens because they are focusing on the fact that someone is actually willing to have sex with them, and they disregard everything else about the situation. The most important thing being disregarded is the person that they are fucking: their story, their background, their baggage. It doesn't matter, getting laid, don't care...rinse and repeat for a few years, then things go downhill. Then she's a slag/slut/etc. If someone is obtuse enough to get themselves in this type of situation, they deserve what ends up happening to them.

Copasetic: ok/fine with.
Obtuse: not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect. (per dictionary.com)

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The Duck

Ok I understand the so called "Moral" implications of it ,, and the "you will look like a "douchebag" context. However I still stand by the fact that "Sluts/Council house trash/users" and generally ANYONE male of female who uses another human being for their own beniefit should at some point have their past catch up with them.If not for any other reason that to warn the next schmuck.In the scheme of things why in this day and age of internet and pics etc should you not be able to expose the paerson for what they are ??

The_Jazz

See moral implications
See douchebag implications
See the fact that you're not karma embodied (that means that you aren't personally the karma fairy)

Humiliating someone in revenge just brings you down to their level. As I said before, it's wrong. Yes, she should get hers. No, you shouldn't be the one giving it to her.

I don't see how you can possibly justify doing this. No matter how it makes her feel, it turns you into an asshole. Are you going to sink to her level?

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CinnamonGirl

You won't feel any better. And you'll look like a douchebag. So...I'm kinda failing to see why you still want to do this.

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LordEden

Are you not using her for your own benefit? You are putting private photos on the internet to make yourself feel better about dating/fucking this girl.

I don't know about you, but my slut-radar and my will-fuck-your-brother-and-steal-your-dog-radar is pretty strong. I don't need to see nude pictures of a girl to know to keep my penis away from certain members of the opposite sex.

People use people. Male, female, transWTF, whatever; everyone is out to get their own part of the pie. You got burned, we have all been there. Hell, there is a girl out there that owes me $2400 in loans that I loaned her when I was thinking with my penis. I chocked that up to "think with the smarter head" and moved on with my life. We have all been burned, but dwelling on the past will do nothing but keep you from moving into the future.

*****

Council house trash? Is that a UK thing? Can I get one of the TFP wankers in here to translate. I ain't got time to google that shit.

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The Duck

Coming down to "someones level" Is not entirely without its benefits; In short fight fire with fire and hit 'em where it hurts...It's all sooo good taking the Moral high ground and believing in KARMA ... truth being Karma takes its foooking time and I see no harm in hurrying it along a bit... In short if she was prepared to have thephotos took and also prepared to have them on "certain sites" why should i not be able to post them where i feel fit ?

LordEden

'Cause that makes you a douchebag and no better than the girl you are trying to burn.

*****

To quote Uncle Philly:

never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

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CinnamonGirl

I get the feeling you posted here thinking everyone would say, "yeah, do it! Fuck 'er!"


Let's put aside moral high ground and karma, then. Why not just let it go? It's a chapter in your life that's closed now. Instead of carrying around all the spite and hatred, use your experience to decide what you want in a girlfriend...and what you DON'T want.

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"Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?"

The_Jazz

Duck, you're new here obviously. If you were looking for our permission to post those pictures here or elsewhere, I doubt you'll find many folks at TFP that are going to ok the concept. Even if folks do think it's a good idea, my bet is that they'll have the good sense to keep their heads down. If you're looking for permission, you need to find another spot on the internet. There are assholes aplenty on other sites that would love to see what you've got; you're not going to find that here.

Again, you're not the karma fairy. It's not your job to make her miserable.

I'm willing to bet that it's illegal in the UK to post those pictures with her name attached. It would be in most states of the US. The difference of "before" is that it was done with her permission. You don't have that now. So doing it now is going to be (most likely) illegal and definitely immoral.

No one here is going to stop you (unless you post them here or link to them - I won't allow that to happen) from posting them. You asked our opinion; you've heard some and don't like that. I wonder why that is.

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EventHorizon

want to really get revenge?
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blur out her face and pot up the pictures all over work. it wont matter if anyone else knows who it is, she'll know who it is and every turn she takes at work she'll be facing her hairy spotted ass and who'll be the fastest person to take down the photos? boyfriend(s) and whoever is in the picture.
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forget about her and move on normally with the rest of your life so that when/if she comes back expecting you to be wallowing in sorrow and you're actually better than ever, she'll feel mega tiny

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maybe ignore the HTML joke...

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Does Marcellus Wallace have the appearance of a female canine? Then for what reason did you attempt to copulate with him as if he were a female canine?

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Originally Posted by canuckguy Pretty simple really, do your own thing as long as it does not fuck with anyone's enjoyment of life.

The_Jazz

There's a joke in there somewhere? Where?

We really need a rule around here that jokes have to be, you know, funny. Granted, I'd be the most frequent offender, but still...

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"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush
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spindles

You'd probably call it Trailer Trash. In the UK a lot of 'lower class' housing is owned by the local council.

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monkeysugar

In short, because she was prepared to have them taken and also prepared to have them on "certain sites," which I can only hope were disclosed to her. Not wherever you feel fit, after the relationship is over. Not posting them on websites and sending the url to her friends/family/coworkers, etc.

Trying to argue about this seems like an entirely moot point, as it seems you have already made up your mind that this is an acceptable thing to do. What I can tell you is that you're not going to make any headway in getting approval for your behavior in this community. As you created an account and almost immediately necro'd a thread that has been dead since 2004 (google?) I can only assume that you are seeking approval, support, and justification for your intended actions. You're not going to find any of that here, in regards to this situation.

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levite

I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping pix of your ex, unless she specifically asked you to give them back to her. But if not, sure. As long as you don't post them online, or publish them, or something.

But if you're just keeping them for the occasional look back, or even the occasional sentimental wank, I say there's no problem at all.

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Absence, because it doth remove
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Plan9

Wow, I think this is the first time I've ever disagreed with you on something.

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Poetry

Ah, I'd vote because she can sue or, depending on the country and what exactly you do with them, have you arrested.

Yes, including emailing them to other people, apparently.

Try Googling the phrase "illegality of posting nude pictures of ex". That hi-tech search machine, it works wonders.

I'd also comment on this activity making you look like a douche, but posting nude pictures of an ex really would make you look like a sad young kid who can't acknowledge his own inexperience and move closer towards possible adulthood.

Plan9

Hey, so... uh... I used the Google Hi-Tech Search Machine you guys were talking about. Turns out there are dozens of websites set up by sad young kids who can't acknowledge their own inexperience and move closer toward possible adulthood. I gotta say... some of their exgirlfriends are pretty damn hot.

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mixedmedia

After reading all this, somehow I'm having trouble believing that this woman was simply a merciless whore and Mr. Charms here a poor, beset upon nice guy.

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The_Jazz

What?! No. No, no, no. No.




Well, maybe.

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"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush
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Poetry

I was trying to avoid saying "sad little wank who can't put on his big girl panties" in order to avoid making this potential MRA in-progress go off the deep end.

Also, some of those pictures are horrific. Totally kills "the mood".

levite

Really? I confess, I'm surprised at this. You really think it's inappropriate for him to keep the pix for his own sentimental enjoyment if they were freely given, not asked for return upon breakup, and he keeps them private and out of the public eye?

Why do you think so? I'm really curious, man.

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Absence, because it doth remove
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The Duck

Well at least it caused a storm lol. So to answer some of the allegations ..Firstly I am not a retarded 15 yr old who wants revenge on a slapper etc... these pics/ vids are from 10 yrs ago.. Give you the hint that I aint in my twenties lol. Secondly WHOAAAA!!! hey whats with the attacks ?? lol ok its a forum but lets play nice please lol.. Third I would not need "Your Permision or infact your approvall (to be fair if i was gonna do it i would have done so by now probably when it was all fresh and i completely hated the bitch and hang the consequences) But revenge is a dish best served cold and in big friggin helpings.. So yes I understand the "MORAL" aspect and if she was a respectable and somewhat Morraly sound person I would not dream of such a thing however..Some people go through their lives on the backs of others and ..SADLY never ever see and comeback what so ever.. so Maybe ...JUST maybe chucking a spanner in their sponging little abusive lives may or may not make the worls a better place and put jeremy kyle out of a job ???

KirStang

The Duck, let me welcome you to this forum. Second, sometimes people, including myself, will project past experiences on to people who aren't necessarily guilty. Don't let such attacks deter you from posting, please.

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The_Jazz

Then enjoy jail, Duck. Because it's illegal in the UK as well. And if she decides to go to a lawyer, you'll most likely end up paying her as well.

Good luck.

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"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

Poetry

You're thinking of getting revenge on a woman you dated a decade ago?

I feel like this is the buddings of another George Sodini.

KirStang

Uh yea...on that note:

The whole revenge bit. Let that go. I've got some exes that I wish would suffer horribly, but it's not my prerogative.

The best revenge is to live well. Just go with that.

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The Duck

No Probs Jazz (been a newbie on forums before so I know the score lol) Anyhow as you know there are ways and means of posting on the net anon.. proxy servers etc.. But the pics in question and the sites they are on were 1. Done with her consent (date/time stamped and commented on etc.) 2. One of the sites were where she was selling her knickers for cash under a sudo name ..(but paypal details will give the account) while she was benefit frauding... 3. she is probably still doing it, so ask yourselves the moral question of should she be turned in?? and finally 4... and what I feel is the best... NO man with any sort of moral conscience would go near her putting her back in the gutter where I first found her and make her an example to the retards she is ONCE again associating with.. IE: karma having a helping hand !!! ..just a thought LOL

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no pics were a decade ago split up was 4 years .. My life is actually spot on now. and to be fair she can do what she wants.. My point is Karma is taking its time and should I help it along a bit while i have the opportunity .. lol which before you ask me the qustion "Why am I bothered?" Becuase i do not belive that truly evil people should walk the face of the planet doing what they like to other people with NO RETRIBUTION AT ALL!!!!

Baraka_Guru

The problem is that's not how karma works. You can't help along someone else's karma*, and something like having an external humiliation come down upon you is not the action of karma, it's the action of others. Karma is a personal thing. This means that the action you are contemplating will only create your own karma.

You want to talk about karma? You should look at your own. Four years on and you're thinking of attacking the character and reputation of an ex. You clearly have your own karmic issues to deal with. Why are you still so miserable after all this time (despite saying your life is "spot on")? You need to look at yourself and wonder why you're still obsessing over her.

You're hung up on this. You're clinging to it, and it's damaging you.

If your life were truly "spot on," you would be posting about much cooler stuff here on TFP. Much cooler.

I wish you the best in your struggles to get over what she's done to you. I hope you realize that this will require looking at yourself more than at her.


*The exception is if you were to attempt the inverse: Helping her become a better person, by aiding in her own insights into why her actions hurt others—this would help her in working with her own karma, and may help her to avoid such bad actions and instead treat people with more respect.

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Poetry

And how many years did you date this "truly evil" person? It must have been a nightmare, being with someone so horrible for that long.

It's amazing you could stand dating such an evil person, and I commend you for your selfless act of bravery in attempting to redeem such a truly heinous person from their life of pure evil with your pure love and good heart.

The Duck

Guru ..Whilst I appreciate your comment ... and to be fair can fully understand what your saying. However (without going into a 10 page message) the upshot is. People who are in-herently evil and use others for their own gains deserve to have thier lives put into turmoil and to have some discomfort put upon them... |For far too long (hence Jeremy Kyle etc) Decent folk have sat back and and let other people walk over them.. Now please bear in mind ..if this was a MAN that had robbed you of everything you may well resoort to Violence ..and so would I. But this is a female with the morals of alley cat who will (AND HAS DONE over the last 4 yrs since we split) duped decent men into bringing up her brood and spending their cash ... Now its all good and well to say move on ... I HAVE DONE and I am very happy ..but there is still abit of me that thinks ..you know what ... FUCK you the world can see your ass... but your friends and family dont know do they LOL