I disagree, most women I have ever known in the carnal sense really like this, in fact, most even like when you rub your cock on their face.

OK... So I won't get all uptight about leaving the seat up. I can check first and put the seat down myself.

But...

It's a pretty big target you are aiming for.... Is it really that hard to not miss? And is it that hard to NOT clean up after yourself?

Some of these seem kinda silly and trivial..

For instance, "Did you cum?" Let me get this straight, if you're with a guy you completely love and adore, and of all the things there are to be annoyed/upset over, "Did you cum?" is one of them?! Jeez..

Eh heh, i've done this. I don't do it on purpose, but when you're dancing w/ a girl and :ahem: thoughts just enter your head, it's kinda hard to, well, not stay hard.

I try to shift the girls backs against my leg though. ;)

OOOOH -- Trivializing something I have said.

If it's important to me - -then it's important...
:D

We're economically minded, we don't want to waste any more paper than absolutely necessary ;)

And it is that hard to not miss... We don't have no standardised hole that has been cut out to perfection. So it's not a straight stream (the dreaded V-pee comes to mind ) And there are all sorts of spatter that can occur, bouncing back from inside on the seat.

I ask because 1) I am not always sure, Out of all the women I have slept with only two of them have ever said "DON'T STOP I'M COMING" The others I dind't know. 2) because I care and I want you to have as much fun as I am. I understand that if everything is magical you should come at the same time but I dont' always know and I like to communicate so if I need to I can slow down or do something different.

Buuuut, to each his own.

I've had this discussion with my fiancee before. Now, how hard is it to hit something at point-blank range? Now, a toilet only comes a little bit lower then my kneecaps, and much to my dismay, I'm not hung like a horse(:p)so I'm not hanging right over the toilet. Now generally when have an errant spray, I'll clean it up unless it's 3 in the morning when I don't give a crap about much except going back to bed.

Don't pass the blame off on us girls if you guys have trouble finding one you like. There's plenty of reasons for that.

1. Your too picky.
2. You've got personality hangups.
3. Your too shy.
4. Your too aggressive. (I know these sound like opposites but you gotta strike a happy medium. Approach us, ASK us and if we say no, LEAVE us ALONE.)
5. You don't take any care of your appearance. I know appearances aren't everything but if you're at a party, eating like a pig, or out at a bar and you're smelly, then it's a turn off.
6. You're looking in the wrong places. You're not going to find a NICE girl, walking the streets selling her ass, ya know. Get involved in community efforts.
7. You just act way too damned desperate. That alone is a turnoff.

Just don't blame women if you can't find one you like. If you can't find a 4 leaf clover it's not the clover's fault.

I can sympathize with the men on this one. I tried (funny story) to hold my boyfriends penis while he was peeing once and it was harder than it looks. It got EVERYWHERE. So yeah... thats my funny story for the day.

Back on topic: I hate the way that they HAVE to do things for you. It's like an uncontrollabe urge to do something nice but just ends up looking very controlling. An example, my brother just got married and we were at their going away BBQ. She wanted to go inside and call a coworker to see if she were coming. My mom tells her the number and so she's repeating it to herself to keep herself from forgetting it. My brother whips out his handy dandy cel phone and starts to call her so Jess doesn't have to do it herself.

From re reading it, it doesn't sound like a big deal but that kind of stuff is annoying.

1. When they take you for granted, the little things you'd be willing to do in a heartbeat but they don't appreciate it, or even acknowledge it.

2. When they expect YOU to always look after planning things, sometimes i dont want to think, i just want to be taken out for the night.

3. Expecting us to always be able to read their minds or feelings. I know it sounds like a female thing, but seriously, sometimes i just want to be told where they're at in the stage of things.

4. Male indecisiveness. I hate making decisions for a good chunk of the time.

5. Lack of ability to make a genuine compliment with no ulterior motives. I'll believe it when i see it. This includes wiping out cheesey pickup lines.

6. --> This one is for a certain breed of gentlemen in particular and it hits home to me personally. Assuming that just because a female is a little crazy in the bedroom, or likes things a bit more wild or 'out there' (ie exhibition pictures etc)... DOES NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES mean that she's going to spread her legs to everyone and their dog, or show pics to anyone who asks, or take requests or be easy. BAH. It's more than slightly frustrating to say the least. A girl can be a freak in the bedroom, doesn't make her any less of a lady for the rest of her existance...[/rant]

The "Guys, what bothers you most about girls?"-thread.

And so you came into the exact same type of thread and posted about it?

Uhm, so the ladies can list those things, but the guys can't? :)

I think both are pretty awesome threads.

That's a tough one.

I'm sure plenty of guys just compliment ladies just to get in the sack and what not.

But seriously, some of the first relationship advice men and women both give to younger men is to always compliment the lady. Try watching a sitcom about a boy meets girl situation and not have that advice come up!

Men compliment ladies because they respond to it so well. Ladies with baggage (who have been burned by a guy that is charming aka slings the compliments out) tend to have your point of view. Not saying you have baggage, just saying that it's probably one or two guy's fault for making you think like that.

If a man compliments you, please don't automatically think it has an alterior motive. I promise you, 90% of the time, they are seriously just trying to break the ice, or trying to provoke that bright eyed smile we love so much.

I don't automatically think this way, but i've been burned the last couple 'o times because i'm silly and naive and sometimes forget to think things through. I thought i could judge when it was genuine, but blew that lol. No biggie *Shrugs* :)

It's true, we can cetainly be "dumb as rocks." But I think both sexes have it wrong when we can't just be more upfront about what we want. Otherwise don't we both go home unsure and unhappy?

1. They expect you to wear sexy underwear all the time. Sexy underwear typically means I'm being molested by my own underwear which isn't fun. I wear thongs/g-strings when I have clothing that would show a pantyline. I'm not going to be molested by my underwear while I sleep because a guy thinks it's hot.

2. "I'll call you later" - When I say that, I mean later that day. If you don't intend to call me that day, say "I'll call you tomorrow... next week, or whatever." For gods sake is it so hard to specify a time!?

Those are my two biggest peeves, sure I have more but if those two things could be fixed I might be able to get along with males on a regular
basis. ;)

Every person has a different opinion about what they dislike, and most of those come from personal experiences. Mine is simple. I can deal with guys odd behavior (scratching themselves, drinking 17 shots until you pass out into a drunken stupor because your friend 'wango' dared you to, etc) just fine, but the one thing i've always hated is for a man to put his girlfriend/significant other last on his list of important things. No guy should have to go overboard and buy his SO flowers all the time and shower her with compliments at every waking moment, but letting the girl know she is appreciated every once in a while is never a bad thing :)

Now this one made me laugh...:lol: Yup...there's a problem.

Maybe not, but it helps :D

It's because guys who arn't assholes or bad boys and are nice guys usually act like girls, and what girl wants to become involved with someone who acts like they do. You girls know you're narotic, needy, always have to be right, get emotional when your wrong, and can get absurdly irrational. So you want a man not a woman, because that’s what makes relationships work.

Millions of years of evolution don't usually fuck that stuff up, however doing away with survival of the fittest does.

Ok, that's fucking hot and it's giving me wood just to think about.

I can't believe how much more criticism and rebuttals there are in this thread than the one about women. What's up with that?

It bothers me when guys yell out things at me like "Hey baby" or "Suck me!" Since any idiot would know this is not going to get results, I can only take it as a form of harrassment. And then they complain that women are bitchy. It bothers me when guys don't talk to me like I'm a person and just come at me with pickup lines. A "real" approach will get you 100 times farther than cheesy canned lines. And it bothers me when guys who should be able to tell there's no chance of getting together with me try to pick up on me. I mean, if you're a 55-year-old street bum, you must know I'm not going to want to jump in the sack. So to me it's just more harrassment. And guys who are obviously married, like when I'm sitting in their office with pictures of their wife and kids and they're asking me out. Do I look like a whore?

Guys, I appreciate the difficulty of trying to hook up with women, trying to figure out if they're interested or not, working up the nerve to talk to someone. But I'm not talking about a respectful and sincere attempt, which is always flattering and can be handled politely. I'm talking about some stranger on the street going, "Nice tits!" when I walk by. Or even, "Hey beautiful" or something, if it's yelled at you on the street, it's harassment. Men who get touchy on this topic should understand that it's hard to deal with this all day. If you've ever had to rebuff unwanted advances from someone you found offensive, think about what that was like, then multiply by several hundred and you might find yourself getting a little reactionary too.

There's other things that bother me but I'm tired of ranting. :)

Yeah, that's a bitch. Just appreciate more the ones that don't act like assholes I guess.

I like men, I really do! But they still do weird things (although so do women...).

When I am at work, both men and women say I charge too much, but it's only men who get ANGRY about it. Excuse me, I'm just the ticket girl, yelling won't change the price!

I love getting flirted with, but I HATE catcalls and leers. I deliberately wear shapeless and boring clothes to avoid this and men STILL ask me to show them my tits. What about me could possibly interest them in my tits? You can barely even tell I HAVE them!

I know men are horny, and it's actually really endearing, but it is NOT an excuse to break basic rules in a relationship. I'm talking about the times when a man begs, demands, or forces sex. Yeah, women do it sometimes, but it's like 1% of the time. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this. *coughRAPEcough*

Some of this solves itself over time. I have to agree with the guy about the "Did you cum?" question. It is so hard to broach this subject with women during the act itself unless you are really comfortable with each other. It would be a whole bunch easier if both people would just talk during sex.

As to the confidence issue, it took me years to get the whole relaxed approach down. It partially comes from having a strong marriage and feeling comfortable. The other day, I was in an airport lounge for a couple of hours prior to a flight. There was a young woman reading a book next to me. I asked her what she was reading, and we ended up talking around 3 hours (while waiting and during the flight). She was a stewardess that was returning from vacation, so she gets hit on all the time. I told her I was married right from the beginning so that there would be no pressure and no thoughts on her part that I was in any way doing it. I was flirting of course and so was she (she touched my shoulder several times during the conversation). I walked off that flight feeling very good about myself and just a bit smitten. Of course nothing would happen, but it is moments like this when you connect with other people that really make life nice.

I don't know if this is a general thing for most guys, but for me what I hate the most in guys is when they ignore you. Like when you are so frustrated with something and you just want to talk and lay things out in the open, guys can just turn off and pretend it's not happening to them. And then they think they can go away and leave it and then come back and it's ok, when really all they've done is leave whatever was bugging her, to fester, quietly seething. What's so difficult about talking? In the end if you don't talk, then resentments grow and it's worse overall. Maybe I'm just ranting, I don't know.

Anybody else out there know what I'm talking about?

Also when they pretend they're listening to you when really they're concentrating on the formula one/comupter game/the paper/anything but you...

I think someone else already said here that another pet peeve is always being last on a guy's list of priorities...ditto

The thing that bothers me and this goes for both sexes,but mainly men, is appearance, dressing nice,and SMELLING GOOD (NO...I REPEAT..NO BODY ODOR)
You don't have to jump into the vat of cologne, just a little dab will do.

you know how hateful and horrible we are? there were four threads.. the other two were "what do you love most about guys/girls" yet only the *bothers you most* ones were brought back.. lol

I agree with what you say. It bugs me so much, even if its not being said to me, but to other girls, cause it IS harassment, and really innapropriate. Also, the opposite applies to me, when a guy yells out insults. For example, last week two of my girl friends went out for coffee to catch up. We later go outside and sit on a bench and chat away. Across the street are a couple of drinking assholes sitting outside a pizza parlor. We just ignore their rowdyness like we would anyday in school. A few minutes later, they get in a car and speed away like morons. As they pass by us, some asshole in the back seat yells out "UGLY UGLY UGLY!!" My other friends were talking as he yelled out, but I heard it loud and clear. *fumes* Ugh, I just HATE that.

Same here Acetylene...same here..

I suppose the reason why I've never been in an actual relationship with a guy is because of all of the bad interactions I've had with them. Occasionally, I'll get to know one that is just great, but as a friend. I'm usually not attracted to them...usually. The guys that have crossed my path in majority I suppose have just created an overall dislike for the testosterone-fed gender. Who knows when I'll get over this. :confused:

With respect to the catcalls, I have to get something off of my chest. For two summers as an undergraduate, I worked in construction. Although I had never done so before, and have not done so since, once I put that hard hat on, I turned into the catcalling bastard. So did my partner. I don't know what the hell, but we would yell stuff like "Hey baby!" to girls at bus stops and stuff. We didn't even slow down, so if that method was ever going to work, we would never find out. I guess it was just funny. My all time favorite response was from a girl reading a book who flicked us off, and kept that finger pointed towards our truck while we drove past without looking up. :thumbsup: